I wonder, if the roles were reversed would the outcome be different or just stay the same? It is so easy to say from the comfort of a secure home with a manicured lawn living in the burbs what another person who lives in the city with little future should be doing with their lives. When given lemons do people really make lemonade? Meaning, if the people who are so quick to criticize were in a situation where they lived in an environment of drugs and guns or the instability of a family life, would they become a success story? Hmm, if they believe so, perhaps they watched too many movies like Lean on Me or Coach Carter. The story of the inner city kid who, against all odds, avoided the trappings of drugs and violence, went to a community college, earned their degree and lived happily ever after.
I also wonder about the thought process of the of the inner city dweller who says this young man was "a nice boy", an innocent victim. Guess what? Nice people try to avoid breaking laws. Especially ones that involve drug trafficking. Granted maybe he and the young lady did not deserve to die in the manner they did, but you have to believe that was a possible outcome given what he was involved in. Then there was the statement that this was the law makers fault. Really? Should the blame fall down to the police, the judges, the schools, teachers, and the prison system? I ask, why not the family? Family should be the main influence on lives. Teaching right from wrong. The statement someone posted, "this happens all the time to everyone" is the one in particular that I find absurd. Unless Poland or Canfield hides it, I don`t think this type of behavior is happening out there.
If it wasn`t for the fact that human lives were being lost this would be an interesting sociological study. How two worlds can be so different yet live relatively so close to together. Maybe even passing each other up on the freeway. Interesting…
Why is it that whenever someone says they are against gay or lesbian marriage they are labeled homophobic, outdated, or close minded? Why can`t it just be an opinion of someone who just believes in the sanctity of an institution that has been a part of human lives for thousands of years? Is it that important for gays and lesbians to valid themselves that they have to call their union a marriage?
I`m so sick of this "gay' crap being shoved in our face. You want to be gay, be my guest. I don`t want to hear about it because I don`t condone it. No other species on this planet is gay. When gays and lesbians now want to ruin the institution of marriage, I have a problem. Marriage is for man and wife, that`s it. There is no reason for it to be any other way.
You miss the point Antiyoungstown-- it's not whether Poland voters think teachers are over-or-under paid -- it's whether they think they are over-or-under paid compared to them, the voter/taxpayer.
***So the tax payer is happy as long as the teacher has the same or less benefits than they do?
And it's not strictly the pay you have to look at -- it's the benefits and guaranteed pensions. That's when people get mad.
***Someone OK`d the teachers contract.
BeD & ANTI, you are the reasons taxpayers are going broke.
***Once you deem education not worth spending money on, that`s when the educational system and the community starts to deteriorate. Welcome to Poland, the new Youngstown.
More money does not guarantee a better teacher.
***I agree. But it may guarantee a more qualified one. When you hire someone to work on your house, do you hire the builder with the lowest bid?
Some can say a teacher making $58,000 a year is over paid. To them I suggest that if you`re that upset by this perhaps you should quit your job, go back to school for 4 yrs, sub for a few more, and take a position somewhere fearing in the back of your mind that you might be laid off someday because of budget cuts.
Budget cuts that come all because a community who has entrusted you to educate and hopefully positively influence someone as important as their children feel that you aren`t worth the money.
You get what you pay for. If you want teachers with lower pay, then lower your standards.
Is pay to play that big of a deal? I see a community with pride. Pride for its people, schools, and especially it`s athletics. Poland blue is everywhere. Go to a girls softball or boys basketball games. You want the best venues to watch the games. You want the best teams to compete. You want the best education system. You want the best communities to raise your children. You want Poland to be everything that you hoped and dream of for a family.
But let`s not pay a fee to play a sport/band that is OPTIONAL not mandatory. A sport that is extracurricular, not necessary for graduation.
Well, I guess here`s your options Poland, Send your children to a private school. Pay $7000 a year. Send your children to a different school. Move. Don`t have your children participate in sports or band.
Cuz, I`m doubting the teachers union will open the contract to renegotiate.
RealTruth, I checked the website. I`d have to know every teachers name to do an accurate comparison. Something that I am not privy to. My original assumption was based conversations with teacher friends about salaries on a gradeschool level and the rate of parochial teachers that jump to public schools for better pay.
Double homicide in Youngstown
What different worlds we all live in.
I wonder, if the roles were reversed would the outcome be different or just stay the same? It is so easy to say from the comfort of a secure home with a manicured lawn living in the burbs what another person who lives in the city with little future should be doing with their lives. When given lemons do people really make lemonade? Meaning, if the people who are so quick to criticize were in a situation where they lived in an environment of drugs and guns or the instability of a family life, would they become a success story? Hmm, if they believe so, perhaps they watched too many movies like Lean on Me or Coach Carter. The story of the inner city kid who, against all odds, avoided the trappings of drugs and violence, went to a community college, earned their degree and lived happily ever after.
I also wonder about the thought process of the of the inner city dweller who says this young man was "a nice boy", an innocent victim. Guess what? Nice people try to avoid breaking laws. Especially ones that involve drug trafficking. Granted maybe he and the young lady did not deserve to die in the manner they did, but you have to believe that was a possible outcome given what he was involved in. Then there was the statement that this was the law makers fault. Really? Should the blame fall down to the police, the judges, the schools, teachers, and the prison system? I ask, why not the family? Family should be the main influence on lives. Teaching right from wrong. The statement someone posted, "this happens all the time to everyone" is the one in particular that I find absurd. Unless Poland or Canfield hides it, I don`t think this type of behavior is happening out there.
If it wasn`t for the fact that human lives were being lost this would be an interesting sociological study. How two worlds can be so different yet live relatively so close to together. Maybe even passing each other up on the freeway. Interesting…
May 17, 2012 at 9:28 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Former Valley pair applauds Obama’s gay marriage stance
To all the heterosexual women who gave birth,
Happy Mother`s Day!
May 13, 2012 at 9:58 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Former Valley pair applauds Obama’s gay marriage stance
Why is it that whenever someone says they are against gay or lesbian marriage they are labeled homophobic, outdated, or close minded? Why can`t it just be an opinion of someone who just believes in the sanctity of an institution that has been a part of human lives for thousands of years?
Is it that important for gays and lesbians to valid themselves that they have to call their union a marriage?
May 11, 2012 at 3:48 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Former Valley pair applauds Obama’s gay marriage stance
I`m so sick of this "gay' crap being shoved in our face. You want to be gay, be my guest. I don`t want to hear about it because I don`t condone it. No other species on this planet is gay. When gays and lesbians now want to ruin the institution of marriage, I have a problem. Marriage is for man and wife, that`s it. There is no reason for it to be any other way.
May 11, 2012 at 5:47 a.m. permalink suggest removal
President Obama voices his support for gay marriage
as if i needed another reason not to vote for him.....
May 10, 2012 at 5:25 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland school board approves pay-to-play plan
You miss the point Antiyoungstown-- it's not whether Poland voters think teachers are over-or-under paid -- it's whether they think they are over-or-under paid compared to them, the voter/taxpayer.
***So the tax payer is happy as long as the teacher has the same or less benefits than they do?
And it's not strictly the pay you have to look at -- it's the benefits and guaranteed pensions. That's when people get mad.
***Someone OK`d the teachers contract.
BeD & ANTI, you are the reasons taxpayers are going broke.
***Once you deem education not worth spending money on, that`s when the educational system and the community starts to deteriorate. Welcome to Poland, the new Youngstown.
More money does not guarantee a better teacher.
***I agree. But it may guarantee a more qualified one. When you hire someone to work on your house, do you hire the builder with the lowest bid?
April 24, 2012 at 4:57 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland school board approves pay-to-play plan
Some can say a teacher making $58,000 a year is over paid. To them I suggest that if you`re that upset by this perhaps you should quit your job, go back to school for 4 yrs, sub for a few more, and take a position somewhere fearing in the back of your mind that you might be laid off someday because of budget cuts.
Budget cuts that come all because a community who has entrusted you to educate and hopefully positively influence someone as important as their children feel that you aren`t worth the money.
You get what you pay for. If you want teachers with lower pay, then lower your standards.
April 24, 2012 at 3:37 p.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland school board approves pay-to-play plan
Is pay to play that big of a deal? I see a community with pride. Pride for its people, schools, and especially it`s athletics. Poland blue is everywhere. Go to a girls softball or boys basketball games.
You want the best venues to watch the games.
You want the best teams to compete.
You want the best education system.
You want the best communities to raise your children.
You want Poland to be everything that you hoped and dream of for a family.
But let`s not pay a fee to play a sport/band that is OPTIONAL not mandatory. A sport that is extracurricular, not necessary for graduation.
Well, I guess here`s your options Poland,
Send your children to a private school. Pay $7000 a year.
Send your children to a different school. Move.
Don`t have your children participate in sports or band.
Cuz, I`m doubting the teachers union will open the contract to renegotiate.
April 24, 2012 at 11:52 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Ohio executes man who fatally stabbed teen in 1985
Eye for an eye...
undeniable proof, execute immediately.
April 19, 2012 at 5:56 a.m. permalink suggest removal
Poland sets proposed fees for school sports, band
RealTruth, I checked the website. I`d have to know every teachers name to do an accurate comparison. Something that I am not privy to. My original assumption was based conversations with teacher friends about salaries on a gradeschool level and the rate of parochial teachers that jump to public schools for better pay.
April 17, 2012 at 4:21 p.m. permalink suggest removal