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Should all Mahoning Valley school districts have a drug-testing policy for new hires?

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Yes 40%
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No 59%
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8564 total votes

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1 2muchtax (310 comments) posted 5 months ago

Yes they should be tested on being hired and randomly tested as all public employees should be just like the important jobs in the private sector!

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2 FreedomTruth (24 comments) posted 4 months, 4 weeks ago

The previous comment is erroneous. All public employees are NOT tested, only those in "safety sensitive" positions. Additionally, why would anyone be for an unconstitutional search such as "random", without probable cause? This is against the US 4th amendment and Sec. 14 of the Ohio constitution!

, I am not in favor of workplace impairment. However, the urine “tests” employers give, only indicates historical usage, NOT potential impairment.

An employer wouldn't be randomly checking their employees tax returns to see if they had broken federal law, would they? Or how about checking if employees had received traffic tickets? That conduct is against the law..........shouldn't they?
"Drug testing", especially for marijuana, does not show or test for impairment!! It only shows latent residual metabolites...which can last for a week or more after use. There are tests that employers may use which actually measure impairment which are seen by employees & employers as fair and not intrusive....and constitutional.

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3 76Ytown (1232 comments) posted 4 months, 4 weeks ago

FreedomTruth: Why would you NOT want to drug test school employees? Pre-employment screenings are not to test for impairment but for drug use. We want to protect our schools from hiring individuals who abuse drugs. There should be zero tolerance for drug use in our schools.

The majority of fortune 500 companies conduct pre-employment background checks and drug testing. Use in the work place costs employers $100 billion dollars per year due to lost work time, health care expenses, and compensation to workers.

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4 FreedomTruth (24 comments) posted 4 months, 4 weeks ago

I would not test school employees for the same reason no other person should be subjected to a search without probable cause! Employers are NOT law enforcement officers. Also, I see you succumb to some of the greatest fallacies of the failed drug war…..you assume that “drug use” only means “illicit” drugs and that any use equals “abuse”. That is erroneous. According to the CDC, an American dies of an unintended overdose every 19 minutes from Prescription drugs!

Besides, your assertion that “use” costs employers X amount of dollars has never been able to be qualified or quantified. Employers lose much more in lost time and accidents due to tired and overworked employees. What a person does on their own time, should not be a concern of yours, or anyone else’s….that is unless you’re a member of the Gestapo and don’t believe in individual freedom.

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5 2muchtax (310 comments) posted 4 months, 4 weeks ago

Freedom truth, so it's oK for the privates sector to randomly test thier employees but not the public sector like police teachers, sherriffs, fireman, because these are not Important jobs with the best benefits in the world? Therefore could easily be filled by non drug users if someone did not pass the test! barring the union would not fight to the end to save the drug users job! All public jobs should be randomly drug tested as should all welfare recipients and food stamp recipients that want tax payer assistance!

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6 76Ytown (1232 comments) posted 4 months, 4 weeks ago

FreedomTruth "What a person does on their own time, should not be a concern of yours, or anyone else’s…."

When you work at a job where you are responsible for the lives of others it becomes everyone's concern.

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7 bunkpatrol (77 comments) posted 4 months, 4 weeks ago

Thank you to Freedom Truth for the most eloquent, informed, and watertight argument against such an invasion of privacy.

The rest of you best study up for your opinions are outdated and misinformed. May those who will judge you be not nearly so harsh as the judgement you levy.

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8 redvert (2056 comments) posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

FreedomTruth wrote "What a person does on their own time, should not be a concern of yours, or anyone else’s…."

So if the bus driver gets zonked out on drugs "before coming to work" and then he/she picks up your child, what do you say to that Freedom? After all, that drug usage was on his/her own time!!!

I would expect a reply like "We were talking about other people, not our bus driver"!!!

Any comment bunkpatrol concerning Freedom's "eloquent" reply?

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