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Should Mahoning County continue to use jail inmates to fill potholes even if union members file a grievance?

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Yes 62%
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No 37%
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3512 total votes

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1 NoBS (1962 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

I have rarely seen a more transparent attempt to generate 'hits' on this site. 'Hits' translate to advertising dollars.

Let's ask your question from another point of view: Does a collective bargaining agreement have legal standing, or is it just another piece of paper?

Common sense says that since the roads are in their worst shape in memory, thanks to an extraordinary winter, and since the condition of many of the county-maintained roads are unacceptable, times like this require unusual measures to make the roads passable. Language can be agreed upon where no full-time employee will lose his or her job to prison labor, and that prisoners will only be used in times of great need.

Instead of advocating compromise and reality, the Vindy chooses to stir the Union vs non-Union debate here. I'll guarantee this devolves into pro-union and anti-union by the end of the day.

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2 cambridge (3031 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

If the city or county needs more road workers for these projects they should hire from the pool of local unemployed law abiding citizens instead of giving the jobs to criminals.

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3 makesyathink (40 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Yes they should; it's a safety issue.

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4 andersonathan (669 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

I do not care who fills them but it needs done and it is so bad the city crew will never get it done.

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5 jchanse (9 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Great! Instead of repealing the 13th Amendment and restoring indentured servitude, why not teach prisoners a trade and let city workers do their jobs? it costs less than recidivism.

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6 Roger_Thornhill (575 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

How about a compromise?
Hire felons to work at Engineer's Office!
Already have a start....
http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/may/04...

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7 Marathonman (2 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Why don't you ask Sheriff Arpaio (Phoenix) how this would work? Their rate of recidivism is the lowest in the country. It's not about indentured servitude - they're C R I M I N A L S! They owe a debt to every law-abiding citizen and hard work may give them a sense of pride and a work ethic. For a city on the brink of bankruptcy it makes perfect sense.

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8 djwellington (4 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

The prisoners DO NOT Get PAID. YOU pay for them to be in jail. At least if they are filling pot-holes you are getting something for your money. How many millions does the Sheriff require to house and heat these criminals.

What is wrong with them giving labor to the county that must feed and shelter them?

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9 2muchtax (345 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

We could sure use a sheriff Arapio here in Mahoning county! Best Sheriff in the country! we could use him for a President! I am sure sheriff Green Will try to clean up our sheriff dept and taxi service for sorentino. but he has his work cut out for him!

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10 richardlewis973 (103 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Inmates do not have the proper training on how to fix the roads properly. 2muchtax how about quit being so cheap and support a NEW tax to help fix these roads

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11 76Ytown (1254 comments) posted 7 months, 3 weeks ago

"Inmates do not have the proper training on how to fix the roads properly"

It's called "on the job training". I give you a shovel and you fill the hole.

I wonder if richardlewis973 is one of those union guys we see standing around trying to figure out how they're going to fix the pothole while we, the stupid working fools aka taxpayers land in the potholes every day on our way to work... that is if you're anywhere to be seen.

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