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Would you vote to ban fracking in the city of Youngstown?

ChoicePercentVisualVotes
Yes 31%
2448
No 68%
5374
7822 total votes

Comments

1 76Ytown (1232 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Take the time to make your vote an educated vote. Look past the $ signs into the future. Are we trading a quick dollar at the expense of our children's future. Fracking will only last 30 - 40 years for the area or 5 years for your lease and leave behind a legacy. Will quick money in your pocket be worth it in the long run?

While the majority of leases entered into between landowners and developers are done in good faith, there are still reports that land men and their employers are entering into leases that benefit developers at the expense of landowners. After reviewing over 110,000 oil and gas leases from Texas, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia, The New York Times found that leases continually lacked adequate provisions to protect the landowner. For example:
• Less than half of the leases contained language requiring developers to reimburse the landowner for water contamination after drilling begins.
• Half the leases did not contain provisions requiring developers to compensate landowners for damaged property or livestock.
• Leases granted developers broad rights to remove trees and existing structures, as well as the right to decide where to store chemicals. They also gave developers the ability to run generators and spotlights throughout the night near homes.
• Leases rarely required developers to disclose to landowners potential environmental hazards that federal law requires to be disclosed to shareholders.

http://innovationohio.org/wp-content/...

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2 JoeFromHubbard (1024 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

It's 7 FEB and by now 92% have voted to NOT ban fracking within the city.

This somewhat restores my faith in the common and good sense of the people of Youngstown. The old spirit that built the city must still be alive.

It is only that the fracophobics make so much attention attracting noise that one would think they are the only people left in town.

Thank God that they are in the minority.

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3 76Ytown (1232 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Read the fine print: This is not a scientific poll. The results reflect only the opinions of those who chose to participate.

Wouldn't have much faith in the Vindy poll numbers, Joe. I just knocked them down to 82%. Just sitting here watching TV without anything else to do at the moment. Your turn again to bring it back up.

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4 GeorgeinYoungstown (76 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Keeping in mind that the only poll that matters is the actual May primary, it's interesting to point out that the local 570WKBN talk radio poll turned out to be about 4 to 1 in favor of a ban.

What's significant about this is that talk radio is proven to have the most conservative listenership, as well as being the most ideologically conservative form of broadcast media, factoring in the political beliefs of hosts, and in the case of WKBN, the fact that it's owned by Clear Channel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Ch...

I guess this all just proves that these online polls are truly unrepresentative.

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5 UticaShale (853 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

This is why Youngstown is the laughing stock of the nation for its mentally challenged.

Listen up fools, Youngstown has been redlined six months ago by all the energy companies! FrackFree Youngstown is in place.

Now go to the small engine repair man on McGuffey and Jacob who worked hard all his life and explain to him why his neighbor across 616 in Coitsville got $6000 for his acre and he will get nothing. Explain to the poorest of the Valley in Youngstown with their only plot in life, why they are the only ones who get nothing while all around them homeowners are painting their houses and buying new lawnmowers.
And pat yourself on the back saying you are a real man for what you have done to your fellow man, they have nothing to do with the industry, but you hurt them by devaluing the land they worked and paid taxes for.

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6 Freeatlast (1991 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Please one vote a day

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7 cambridge (2996 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

You would have to be a fool not to trade clean water and clean air for a new lawn mower.

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8 Ianacek (900 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

By May , hopefully the dust will have died down & voters will have seen ALL the facts support what is really in their best interest - $ produced by safe & sustainable fracking practices.

The anti fracking lobby cunningly dressed up their proposal by highlighting the requirements for clean drinking water & clean air & leaving references to banning fracking to well into the document . Of course , Youngstown's clean drinking water & air would never be affected by fracking . It's a straw man argument .

It was clever ploy to send the imported signature gatherers door to door in sub freezing weather . How many people standing at their frigid doorways would have read the whole document before hurriedly signing to return to the warmth ?

The idealistic environmentalists wanting to create a better world are having ther naiivity wickedly exploited by powerful politicians . So great is their mistrust of the establishment they will sign or promote anything whether they understand it or not . A perfect illustration are the large numbers over the years who fall for "Ban anti dihydrogen monoxide" or "Ban oxidane" petitions .
http://www.dhmo.org/NCCA.html
(Warning : Sense of humor required)

Gas drilling has to be the most democratic opportunity for additional income to have been presented to Youngstowners in a long time . Most individual property owners stand to benefit , but so do non property owners - by way of the the additional public facilities & services the City will be able to afford .

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9 76Ytown (1232 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Educate yourselves before deciding. A residents guide to gas drilling:

http://www.meredith-coalition.org/gas...

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10 Westsider (222 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Fracking has been around for many years. As our energy costs continue to increase, we would be foolish not to access the wealth of resources so close to home. There will be many jobs created in an area that is in desperate need of them. Fracking in and of itself did not cause the earthquakes. As for a WKBN poll - I would question the conservative content of the listenership - especially during the Rob Verb show.

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11 Freeatlast (1991 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Nice new page Mark
But please make it one vote a day

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12 djicey99 (50 comments) posted 1 year, 6 months ago

This is just bad publicity for the City of Youngstown and the Valley that will only go to fuel people's belief that this Valley is just a black hole of vile scum, and corrupt Businessmen and Politicians. They will look upon the City of Youngstown, its businesses and its officials and say, "what a wretched hive of scum and villainy."

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