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Should Youngstown nurses and teachers go on strike if negotiations fail to produce new contracts?

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1DSquared(1617 comments)posted 2 years, 6 months ago

Sure, Who needs a job anyway???

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2papa1(711 comments)posted 2 years, 6 months ago

nurses at valley care are being treated like crap. they get absolutely no respect for the noble profession they are a part of. this is an abomination! to send you home anytime they feel like it and sit home in case they call you back is totally unacceptable. not everyone can do this kind of work and they do it well. and after investing millions in new equipment they announce layoffs of 77 employees? that is why they want the right to send people home if things are a bit slow, to save money. it's all about money and greed. valleycare should be ashamed. I retired from what use to be a very strong union and I can tell you what I would tell valleycare. only they wouldn't print it. they offer to throw a couple of dollars to nurses so they can abuse their rights? they don't get with the nurses it's not about money. it's about respect and being able to maintain a budget. you can't do that when you don't know whether you'll be working from day to day. nurses, tell them to shove it to put it nicely.

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3djicey99(69 comments)posted 2 years, 6 months ago

Many hospitals make their nurses go "on call" these days. I left Salem Hospital because of this back in 2010. They kept either cancelling my shift, or placing me "on call". The only Hospital in the area that I do not believe make their nurses go on call is Alliance. But I am not sure.

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4LtMacGowan(695 comments)posted 2 years, 6 months ago

Fine then give us the Socialized Healthcare system we deserve like the World's Top rated System in France.

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5nortman1(7 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

Wow, they were offered the same contract that all of the other unioins working for Valleycare Health have been offered. Interesting that they are the only ones who are talking about striking over it.

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6nortman1(7 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

Interesting that 77% of the people who responded want the nurses to strike. Makes me wonder if it is some people trying to encourage trouble or if it is Northside nursing staff trying to "show that they have the support of the public".

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7papa1(711 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

they absolutely have the support of the public. this area is on the verge of exploding economically. with the shale industry and v and m star and the incubator we don't have to beg anymore for companies to come here. if valley care thinks we're hard up tell them to go to hell. y-town doesn't need charity jobs. we deserve good paying jobs that people can raise families on and depend on for the future. why trumbull agreed to this I have no idea. I want someone from there to add their two cents. they can't be that stupid.

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8NoBS(2511 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

Nortman, do you have comprehension problems? Asking if the nurses should strike IF TALKS DO NOT PRODUCE A NEW CONTRACT is quite a bit different than simply wanting the nurses to strike.

Nobody, on either side, wants a strike. The threat of a strike is what keeps both sides at the bargaining table.

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9nortman1(7 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

No comprehension problems here, how about you? I also said they were offered the exact same contract that the other unions were offered. They turned it down. I infer that it means that they are not interested in bargaining in good faith with the hospital system. Also, if the nurses at Northside have so much community support, why are there so many empty beds there?

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10NoBS(2511 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

If I was a nurse and they offered me a contract that was geared toward housekeeping/janitorial, I'd probably turn it down, too. Nursing isn't like other jobs. There are a few other professions out there that don't fit the cookie-cutter mold, 8 hour day, 40 hour week mindset. This outfit that bought Northside has a reputation of short-staffing and otherwise taking advantage of employees. If they're allowed to arbitrarily send employees home to save money, we'll see one nurse per floor, and they'll be trying to force that nurse to take a pay cut.

Why are there so many empty beds? First, I support the nurses, and I'm lucky enough to not need a hospital bed. Second, there are a lot more reasons than just the nurses that dictate why someone chooses a hospital. How's the trauma care? What level is Northside? How's the care for stroke victims? Cardiac patients? Pediatrics? Geriatrics? Nurses can only do so much. The decision to devote resources to excelling in one or two areas is above their pay grade.

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11papa1(711 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

the reason for so many empty beds is simple and it has nothing to do with quality of care. the nurses and doctors at northside are on equal footing with any hospital in the area and their equipment is first rate and they're investing millions more. the reason for the empty beds is the greed of the insurance companies. they don't want to pay for care one minute more than absolutely necessary. but do they kick patients out to early? in some cases i'm sure they do.

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12nortman1(7 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

NoBS, your argument might carry some weight if it were just the housekeeping and kitchen staffs who settled their contracts, but it's not. It's the pharmacists, LPNs, Trumbull RNs as well as the support staff who have all settled contracts with CHS. The RNs at Northside are, I believe, the last to be negotiating their contract.

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13nortman1(7 comments)posted 2 years, 5 months ago

papa1, while Northside had empty beds, TMH, St Joes, and St E's were running close to capacity.

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