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Will you vote to repeal Senate Bill 5 if it is placed on the fall ballot?

ChoicePercentVisualVotes
Yes 49%
93534
No 50%
93558
187092 total votes

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1 commoncitizen (961 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

This poll should be interesting coming from this area. If it isn't 95% for yes,in this area, it will NOT pass on the State level

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2 HonestAbe (274 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Not sure where you get your info...pure and lame speculation.

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3 commoncitizen (961 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Just PURE speculation, the only lame thing was your response. Why is it that liberals always have to resort to name calling?

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4 HonestAbe (274 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Not calling any names, but your response IS lame! Check how they vote in Columbus...there are far more public employees in Franklin county than in Mahoning. Just an observation...

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5 valleyred (1097 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

I will not vote for the repeal. Once Ohioans see its benefits in action, they would be stupid not to keep this bill in action!

Go ahead and repeal it then see your taxes go up.

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6 linda1949 (3 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

This has been a long time coming. Unions are good to a point, but they have been on over-kill for quite some time now. When you can't let an employee go because they can't/don't/want to do a good job you find that it is almost impossible to do when there is a union involved. Look at our auto unions…they make 30-50 dollars an hour and most only do a few hours work if any at all. You always hear them bragging how they go to work to sleep or read the newspaper or make extra money by selling food to other employees. Yes unions were very good in the beginning, but they have forgotten why they were created. That’s why we can’t afford new cars. Ohio is in trouble and it is going to take DRASTIC measures to get us out. More and more of our young people are leaving. I am a state worker and in the union and these are my opinions.

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7 assiseeit (36 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

When there are no police to answer your call during a robbery... or no firemen to put out the fire of your burning house... don't complain to me! I vote to repeal it!!!

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8 Tigerlily (488 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Clearly someone posted this on some conservative blog or something, by the votes coming in.

Isn't that how valleyred tries to undermine polls that lean towards liberal thinking every time that happens?

So it must be the same thing now.

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9 valleyred (1097 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Tigerlily.. Every Internet poll is UNSCIENTIFIC. Yes this probably posted on a conservative blog, as well as a liberal blog.

When I voted this AM around 630am there was a 170-130 split between the No's and Yes's. No 4000-1000 split?

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10 commoncitizen (961 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Honest Abe,
MY point,if you couldn't figure it out, was this area is Democratic so if this area doesn't vote to repeal it who will? With all of the union protests you would think that SB5 would easily be defeated --WAIT AND SEE!!

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11 ytown1 (392 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

@Linda 1949

You are a brave soul, by admitting you are a state union worker and that you are against everything that a public union stands for (things SB5 is for) are dangerous words, for you if you are ever outed? We all know so very well how spiteful union people can be, they spike tires at teachers strikes, shoot at you if the teamsters are striking, and I could go on but I would guess you have heard it all down at the hall when they are talking about the owners of the companies they work for? Good luck to you and thank you for standing up and telling it like it is.

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12 Tigerlily (488 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

It's funny how this poll shows the completely opposite numbers as the actual scientific polls being conducted in Ohio. Interesting. Very interesting.

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13 valleyred (1097 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Find me some actual scientific polls that show people opposed 67-33% buddy. I will be eager to read these!

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14 Freeatlast (1991 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Just GOP , KKK scum

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15 valleyred (1097 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

BTW: Mitch Daniels ended collective bargaining in Indiana a few years back. His approval rating fell to 37%.

Guess what his approval rating is now?

Cmon Guess Democrats....

75%.

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16 christine1 (2 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

This poll is soooo rigged. I watched NO go up by 100 votes in 30 seconds. This is the most worthless poll I have ever seen.

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17 christine1 (2 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

BTW valleyred...Mitch Daniels ended collective bargaining rights for state workers ONLY...not teachers or municipal workers (police, fire, etc.) He's trying to limit teachers' collective bargaining rights now. Our governor is trying to eliminate collective bargaining for ALL public employees while raising the salaries of his staff (because you have to pay people good money to lure them to the public sector from the private sector-his words). Oh yeah...and he refered to a police officer as an idiot.

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18 grand4dad (196 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

you got that right christine1. He's using the same argument for giving his staff big salaries as Gains used. Everyone was up in arms about that. They should be able to see that Kasich is no different. He wants his staff to be immune to the very thing he says is wrong with our state - overpaid public workers. How about leading by example. Take the hits in your own backyard first before you start attacking all the middle class workers.

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19 Superskier1 (4 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

I worked for the richest railroad in the world (Pand LE) they never lost a penny and were never subsidized but when the mills closed because of the high wages they had to pay due to Union bargaining the Pand LE gave up their rolling stock and now leases their track to the CSX. We had 28 Unions on our property but we couldn't strike, Railway Labor Act. What should be Repealed is OBAMA CARE which was voted on by the LIBERALS without reading what was in it. We are now 14 TRILLION dollars in the red. You can't spend more than you take in.

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20 spinman (70 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

How many of you "middle class" people can retire with 75% of your salary after 30 years with cadillac health care at 5% co pay for life. SB5 addresses those type of issues. When Delphi screwed its employees I did not not see any other unions jump in for their cause. You people who oppose SB5 need to read the language. The state of OHIO can no longer afford to pay these type of pensions.

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21 ytown1 (392 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Vindy.com why can you not make it a requirement to at least log into an account or even better use a system like ticket master before you can vote in a poll here? Otherwise don't bother. This is a joke.

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22 valleyred (1097 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

I am down with ytown1, these polls are getting completely ridiculous. They are posted on conservative and liberal blogs with thousands of votes from people OUTSIDE Ohio.

This is a joke.

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23 JME (801 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Doesn't need to pass on the ballet, it's already law.

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24 JME (801 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

It amazes me the Vindy sets their polls up so one person can vote multiple times.
Yea, this poll is accurate.

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25 Tigerlily (488 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Awww, poor cons don't like the results. Boohoo.

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26 theotherside (333 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

What amazes me is how people can't see the forest for trees on this issue. This is about political power and control of the government. The republicans want the democratic party to be a permanent minority party. How? By de-funding the democrats of their union contributions. Rush Limbaugh and the rest say as much on a regular basis. All while the oligarchs pump enormous amounts of money into republican purses and agendas. Already, the referendum effort is predicted to be extremely underfunded compared to the republican contributions. Wake up people. If you want the country to become an oligarchy, keep supporting the likes of John Kasich and his puppet masters. Here are some sites to enlighten you:

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/articl...

http://blogs.forbes.com/greatspeculat...

http://robertreich.org/post/3353591266

There are more sites available. Due diligence would be advised before voting on this issue.

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27 valleyred (1097 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

TigerLily, boy you are a hypocrite. You first attack me because it was posted on a conservative blog, now it is posted on the HuffPo and DailyKos and it is fine.

Like I said... ALL Internet polls are unscientific!

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28 commoncitizen (961 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

I bet that if the "poll" showed SB5 being repealed the libs wouldn't be complaining,

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29 Tigerlily (488 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

It does now. But like valleyred states, "these polls are all unscientific!" So why should ANYONE care?

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30 nojimbo (223 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

This is the greatest BS I've ever seen. An online poll, on the Youngstown Vindicator website, that says 164,000 people voted in 3 days. Sure ....

As though even 1/10th of that number (16,000) of different people have ever clicked on the Vindicator website in the 5 or 10 years it's been in existance.

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31 Ianacek (909 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

The poll is obviously being manipulated to have 160,000 votes cast . Vindy should close it immediately & find a way to ensure more honest voting .

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32 WarrenRicheyKid (167 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

How do I get petition forms for the referendum to recall SB 5? can they be downloaded from the internet or are they only available off line? If the latter, where?

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33 paean (1 comment) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

To all public employees: While wishing you all you can get for an honest day's work, I hope you never lose sight of how fortunate you are and have been and that non-public workers are still "working people". Non-public employees also pay taxes just as you do and most have never received a fringe benefit package close to yours.

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34 Cowboyfan (105 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

WOW 168960 people read the VIndicator Blogs.

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35 VINDYAK (1799 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Its now at 176,148!!!
People from Pittsburgh, Columbus and Cleveland are really enjoying our valley news!

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36 Informant4U (7 comments) posted 3 years, 5 months ago

If every public employee votes to repeal the bill, that is nearly 400,000 people. The bill will inevitably be repealed -- as it should be.

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