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Will Democrats and Republicans work together to support health-care reform?

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Yes 14%
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No 85%
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1 Nonsocialist (349 comments)posted 2 months, 13 days ago

I hope all Americans can work together for effective and positive reform, rather than the care-rationing and budget-busting Obama"care". HR3200 impedes progress toward actual reform, because it is a disaster that is dishonestly called reform.

This is no game. Serious consequences are at stake. Free market and tort reforms would reduce medical expenditures and reduce wasteful spending. It would reduce (rather than expand, like HR3200 does) coverage-based medical decisions and increase need-based decisions.

As long as HR3200 has a pulse, I hope both parties work together to abandon it for true reform.

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2 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 13 days ago

It would be pretty hard for them to work together when you have one party that wants health care reform and the other party would rather do nothing.

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3 Search4Answers (612 comments)posted 2 months, 13 days ago

cambridge, republicans are more than open to reform. just because people don't agree with the method of doing it doesn't mean they won't do reform. As Rep Wilson ignorantly shouted out, YOU LIE!.... I have outlined many ideas to reform healthcare however single payer and a public option isn't one of them.

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4 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 13 days ago

Search.....I'm going to have to disagree. The Republicans are pro insurance companies and the Democrats are pro health care. There is a difference. One is working for the good of the people the other for the good of insurance companies.

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5 paulydel (520 comments)posted 2 months, 13 days ago

The government can't even run itself and you got a guy that never even ran a lemonade stand so what do you think your chances of government insurance being successfull is going to be?

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6 Search4Answers (612 comments)posted 2 months, 13 days ago

I don't agree with that statement. If either party was really were about healthcare they would be presenting solutions dealing with the doctor shortage in this country. This is about getting rid of the "evil" insurance companies and replacing it with more government.

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7 andersonathan (384 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

Actually anyone that needs 900+ Billions and in effect giving the Government control of 1/6 of our economy. Can KMA and Rep. Wilson was right!

Start with torte reform, move onto a open free market instead of state to state. Then try eliminating previous health conditions. And go from there. A few sheets of paper and hardly any money. The liberals want 900 billion and a thousand page bill.

So vote for it now you do not need a single Republican input or view or idea or vote to do it. And personally I would rather be in the party that wipes their hands clean of this whole thing. In fact it is sad I live in a area that I have chose to live in and have 2 liberal or socialist or progressive idiots casting votes in Washington. It might be worth the time to pack up and leave over these idiots.

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8 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

Cambilge, how can you be so stupid? The Dems are pro socialist control over every aspect of your life and freedom. The Gop is weak and ineffective. Socialism = the over regulated insurance industry as we have it now. Allow the free market to provide us with the best coverage for the best cost; insurance companies have the right to compete across state lines. Private insurance policyholders have the right to form groups to lower admin. costs. Why should the socialist govt. have the power to inhibit insurance companies from competing across state lines and why can't we form our own group plans? That's what the rich lobbiest are doing to monopolize the industry and both major political parties have sold out to them. Doing anything is worse than doing nothing. We have to demand less regulation for the insurance industry and force insurance companies to compete. What's so hard about that to understand? Capitalism works and over regulating the industry and inhibiting competition is unconstitutional.

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9 Search4Answers (612 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

The thing that concerns me is that the penalty of not providing healthcare was lower than the cost of employees providing healthcare and then the person would be put on the public option. 8% is what obama said... I would assume the public option is still there so that would be putting more people onto the public option.

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10 DoctorGonzo (725 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

It does not matter if they work together or not. The dems have a huge majority to pass whatever they like.

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11 TheQuail (125 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

I voted Yes because I hope it happens, but I have my doubts. There is far too much money, political power, and loud misinformed voices aligned against any kind of effective bipartisan reform package.

3300 anti-reform lobbyists in Washington is difficult to beat. That's about 6 per congress member.

Adding to that are the untrue rumors propagated by fear-mongerers like "death panels deciding who lives or dies" and "socialism is taking over the country." Remember these people? They are the same lunatics who warned us about WMDs. Regardless of how absurd such things are, there are enough whackos who belive this stuff. And unfortunately, they have loud voices to make it seem as though they have political power

Passage of a good non-partisan bill is going to be tough. I hope it happens though. We desperately need it . . . and this may be our last chance in a long time.

On the bright side: I also didn't think Obama had a chance of being elected for virutally same reasons. So who knows . . . .

The Quail

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12 TheQuail (125 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

Hey ProMerkin!

I'm curious . . . do you or any of your family members currently feed at the trough of "socialized" health care, such as Medicare? Or perhaps, accept Social Security?

The Quail

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13 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

The insurance companies lead a small minority of the country to spread rumors, innuendos and distortions about the health care reform that is long over due. Insurance companies are against the reform because it would loosen their stranglehold and the ability to raise rates, drop coverage on the sick, deny coverage for preexisting conditions and cut into their billions in profit.

The Republicans and the so called conservatives want a health care system managed by private insurance companies who are the same companies that make those obscene profits by denying coverage to their policy holders.

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14 Nonsocialist (349 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

I am very troubled by the "misinformation" that has been spread re: Obama"care". Here are a few examples:

It will be deficit-neutral. Am I supposed to believe that the nonpartisan CBO can't do math?

It won't result in rationing. The $600+ billion/10 years in Medicare cuts would never limit care?

It does not cover illegal aliens. Why did the DSP deny a GOP amendment to specifically exclude illegal aliens?

It is not yet another government takeover of the private sector (socialism by definition). How would a public option not lead to a single payer system?

The existence of "death panels" is a lie. Of course there is no creation of something entitled "Death Panels". But the intellectualy honest must ask themselves the function of the "Federal Health Board", and what the impact of their rationing will be.

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15 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

Nonprogress.....Obama wants to create laws that make it against the law for an insurance company to drop you because you get sick, if you change jobs or insurance companies you can't be refused insurance because of preexisting conditions and you will not have to go bankrupt and lose your life's work as a result of illness even though you have insurance.

Let me ask you a question. Are you against these conditions becoming law? Think a moment before you answer. If you think these reforms should take place you are agreeing that the government should step in and do the right thing for it's citizens or do you think that would be socialism?

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16 Search4Answers (612 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

Cambridge, I agree with you that something needs to be done about companies dropping people because of illness... we should pass laws that seal that up tighter. I believe that would be under contract law so we should look there to fix that problem. As far as the preexisting condition problem we could solve that by having insurance decoupled from employement. Its not a problem if you don't have to switch insurance because of a new job.

Solutions rarely come from the government, just because we have problems doesn't mean we need some form of public option.

To reduce costs we need more doctors. We already have a doctor shortage and it is only getting worse. I haven't heard any ideas for how to get more doctors from either side... it's pretty odd we have discussion about healthcare and it isn't all that often someone mentions that we have a shortage of doctors.

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17 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

Cambilge, with a little luck the Banster may re-create the same "benefits" the Brits in the UK enjoy. Why did the Bamster downsize the estimated number of insured to 30M from 47M? Did you know if this socialistic scam becomes law, we will be obligated to cover illegals? How will that help American citizens?The majority of Americans are satisified with their health insurance. Changes must be made; i've metioned them before (why do you fear them) competiton across state lines and individuals able to form groups for group rates. We can easily help the uninsured and catatropic illnesses. No need for a total overhaul, especially when the govt. will gain access to your medical, tax, banking, financial and personal records. Women in the UK are denied meds to treat breast cancer. The result, they have a higher rate than women in this country. The reason for the denying the drug, the cost. Women in the UK also have a higher death rate from osteoporsis, The cost of the meds again. Their taxes are also much higer that ours and they so little bang from the Pound.So they die from breaking their hips. Talk about death panels.How can you claim to be a capitalist? With "capitalists" like you, we don't need any socialists.

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18 Search4Answers (612 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

'Did you know if this socialistic scam becomes law, we will be obligated to cover illegals?" Pro, you've been watching too much fox. I saw that too when Napolitano said that. I don't follow his logic.... the program is unconstitutional but then through some odd interpretation of a weird case out of the 9th circuit he can conclude that somehow the constitution would dictate that? I'd rather hear Obama's interpretation of how this program would be constitutional.

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19 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

We will be forced to cover illegals if the socialist health reform passes. It's b/c if the national plan becomes law, all classes of people MUST be covered. You better start watching FOX News occasionally, just like I watch CNN, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and public tv. Only one network covered the ACORN's p..p and p........e tax scam and condoning illegal immigrants from El Salvador (underage girls) for prostitution and claiming 3 of the 13 sexually abused young girls as dependents. Tax evasion from socialists who want to raise our taxes, prostitution, pedaephilia, importing and hiding illegal immigrants (young girls for slave prostitution).

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20 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

UnAmerican....Factcheck,org says: "liar liar pants on fire."

http://factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-...

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21 dimebag (36 comments)posted 2 months, 12 days ago

"Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help!"
Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid!!

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22 jrbully (16 comments)posted 2 months, 11 days ago

OUST (ALL) INCUMBENTS FIRE ALL THE CROOKS FEDERAL STATE LOCAL

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23 Jessiedavid (100 comments)posted 2 months, 11 days ago

Washington is filled with self serving politicians, who like Traficant know how to say the right things the right way, but do nothing to make things less corrupt and out of control. And that's why America is bankrupt, and there is not even a dime left for more health care or anything else, but our politicians are still ONLY discussing reform while SPENDING and adding more to the deficit every day, including by spending stimulus money borrowed from China. Does anyone posting here really believe Obama will stop even some of his out of control spending?.. For example, like cutting back the Socialized billions in funding for his pet ACORN organization? ..I think we all know better

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24 andersonathan (384 comments)posted 2 months, 11 days ago

I like the fact that it will come into effect in 2013, this way nobama and every democrat can run on the simple fact they were the ones giving everyone [illegals also] health care.
It will help the Barry O get reelected and by 2015-16 we will be calling it China Care. This simple reasoning will be due to the fact we will eventually give China the pharmaceuticals and every other hospital supply needs so they can be manufactured there to keep the program running. So hey who knows maybe the Chinese people will start selling their organs at a premium price for a better life there. China then can ship them here and we can in return buy them at a bulk price with the money we are going to get from the medical manufacturing industry? See it is all puppies and unicorns and rainbows when it comes to this administration.

The bill covered illegals, Obama new it, he lied. And if I am wrong then how come some democrats want the attachment now stating that no illegals will be covered. [When in fact we do not turn down people at our emergency rooms illegal or not.]

The simple truth of the matter is this it comes down to the money 900 billion to line deep pockets and the rest will be tossed into health care that will most likely not effect any of us in a positive way but will be footing the bill in every way possible.

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25 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 11 days ago

I know it wont stop people like you from telling lies or making things up but every time you do I'm going to post a link that proves your full of crap.

http://factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-...

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26 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

Cambilge, you are living in a fantasy world. Workers' Utopia. Do your self a favor; accept the truth before you begin believing your own lies. Medicare is broke. Nobody in my family is on the public dole b/c they paid for their Medicare "benefits". Oh, by the way your great mandated socialist program is bankrupt. So is Social Insecurity. the insurance industry is vastly over regulated by the govt. Capitalists demand freeing all 1300 insurance companies to compete across state lines and allowing individual policyholders to form group plans. The reason you freedom hating socialsts hate capitalism is b/c it works. Socialist Insecurity is a PONZI scheme.

Seach4answers, check it out, if the health scare plan rammed down our collective throats, all classes of people MUST be covered. You put your faith in the 9th J.....t Court of Slamils? Shame of you.

Camblige, did I lie about child molester, tax evading, illegal prostitution, lie, No, ACORN (the rotten nut did).

About the bamster claiming illegals won't be covered under his health scare plan IS A LIAR!

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27 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

If you believe the Bamster, the Dems and numerous GOPers lies about healh care, you people are shlmozos!

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28 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

UnAmerican.....Like I said, every time you lie and say illegal will be covered I'll post a link that proves you lied.

I don't understand fools like you. Illegals are about 3% of the U S population. You and your idiot friends are willing to junk a health care plan that will benefit 97% of the population because some part of that 3% might sneak into some emergency room and receive emergency care.

I don't want people here illegally anymore than anyone else does. They come here for jobs. If you fine the people that employ them and jail the people that employ them for continued infractions, those jobs would no longer be offered and without the prospect of work the illegals would leave.

They are two separate problems and it's a shame your not intelligent enough to figure that out.

http://factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-...

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29 redvert (495 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

I do not understand what all this discussion is about health care. cambridge says the illegals will not be covered. Does that mean that they will be turned away from the emergency rooms? They aren't now!

The leeches and the illegals have free health care. They go to the emergency room for every little sniffle, pay nothing and the taxpayers pick up the bill. Obummer is telling everyone that it is gonna be cheaper for everyone with his health care bill. Millions believe it. Not worth further comment on my part.

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30 Nonsocialist (349 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

"H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens participating in the Exchange—whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently.”

That paragraph comes from the report entitled “Treatment of Noncitizens in H.R. 3200” by the non-partisan Congressional Research Service.

CRS also notes that the bill has no provision for requiring those seeking coverage or services to provided proof of citizenship.

§152 says “all healthcare…services covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.”

While we're addressing Obama's untruths (I'm being kind) , can we find a more honest name for the bill than "America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009"?

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31 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

The 3% of people in the U S that are here illegally will not be covered in the health care plan.

http://factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-...

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32 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

CamBilge, you are still in denial. Typical socialist who knows deep down your religion (socialism) doesn't work. The WOODSTOCK ERA is over! Your illegal immigrant friend will be covered it the health scare plan is made law and you know it. I attended the 912 DC Tea Party. We we respectful the the police, the citizens and evento the ACORN pro child molester, tax evading, prostitution promoting when it attempted to annoy us. We didn't threaten, swear at them, or get physical; and we were 2.1M strong. ACORN did, however provided us with amusement. The SEIU and ACORN can learn a lot from the TEA PARTY PATRIOTS, like behaving like law-abiding ladies and gentlemen.Can you image what how the SEIU and/or ACORN WOULD have respected our rights if we attempted to get our position out to 2.1M of their supporters? Look what the SEIU did to an innocent black man for giving away flags outside a town hall meeting in St. Louis, 6 of them to one. Unions and ACORN are for the little guy, give me a break.
We'd would have been beaten to the pulp. Not one union was represented with our organization. Their tactics include intimidation, violence, lies, swearing and racial slurs.
Of course, what can we expect from socialists.

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33 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

UnAmerican....."2.1 million". Liar liar pants on fire.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/9-12-09...

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34 Nonsocialist (349 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

Below is a link to the Center for Immigration Studies. The conclusion states:

"...the nearly seven million uninsured illegal immigrants with qualifying incomes could receive affordability credits under the bill, creating billions of dollars in costs to taxpayers."

If you are honestly wondering if we are going to be paying for illegal aliens health care, you gotta ask yourself two questions:

1. Why did the DSP-controlled Congress willfully defeat a GOP proposal to apply the SAVE verification program to illegal aliens? Why??

2. Cost-shifting currently covers the expenses of illegals now. What in this bill makes one think that that practice will stop with Obama"care"?

http://www.cis.org/IllegalsAndHealthCare...

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35 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 10 days ago

Nonsocialist.....You choose to believe the opinion of a blogger (Steven A Camarota) who untill right now I've never heard of. I might as well just believe UnAmericans opinion. I saw nowhere in his opinion where he cited the the part of the bill word for word that proved his opinion as fact. If he did include the part of the bill that says that illegals will be covered I missed it.

I choose to believe FactCheck,org. They are unbiased and call BS on Obama when he has it coming and have no political leanings. FactCheck on the other hand cited lies being told about the bill and provided the exact part of the bill that disputes the lie directly from the bill. Big difference from what Mr. Camarota did.

I purposely don't use blogs as backup to anything I post. Just look at this board and there are countless "Read Blog" to the right of peoples usernames. They are nothing more than peoples opinions. You know what the say about opinions don't you?

There are plenty of Republicans in Congress who are against health care reform. You should go to their web site and see if any show the exact part of the bill from the bill word for word that says illegals will be covered. If I were you I'd start with Joe Wilson.

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36 Nonsocialist (349 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Cambridge,

Dr. Camarota has been with the Center for Immigration Studies since 1996 and his area of expertise is economics and demographics. He holds a Ph.D. from the University of Virginia in public policy analysis and a master’s degree in political science from the University of Pennsylvania.

He is an expert in this field and writes articles related to immigration matters.

He is absolutely correct that the DSP lawmakers have blocked attempts for verification of immigration status re: receiving health benefits under HR3200. That is not his or my opinion, it is fact.

That being the case, an illegal alien could apply and recieve this entitlement without fear of their status being discovered.

The glaring question remains: Why would the DSPs exert any time and energy in blocking this GOP proposal re: SAVE verification? Surely there's a reason. What do you think it is?

Good dialogue.

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37 jrbully (16 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

here in south carolina we have a govenor that uses the tax payers money to go on dates and a state rep that calls the president a liar on the floor of the house....and they claim Jim Traficant is screwed up???????????????????? I think mr limbaugh and mr beck should go take a flying leap at a *************

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38 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge is now calling me a liar for the truth, 2.1M at the DC Tea Party. He's a perfect example how socialists are pathalogical liars.

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39 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge's post "Liar, liar pants on fire! Do the socialists have the maturty of a seven year old? CamBilge does.

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40 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

UnAmerican....."2.1 million at DC Tea Party"

Liar Liar pants on fire.

It says here, "tens of thousands".

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...

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41 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge, facts mean nothing to socialists. It's their rebellion why you are so stupid. 2.1M Tea Party Patriots. The people have spoken. No commie health reform. Tell it to the other rich capitalist, Michael Moore.

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42 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

UnAmerican....."2.1M Tea Part Patriots".

Liar Liar pants on fire.

ABC News says 60-70 thousand.

How many times have you lied on this board and then I post proof of your lies? Aren't you embarrassed? There is something seriously wrong with your brain.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protest-c...

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43 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge, I haven't lied once; your king the Bamster, Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi, Harry "Girly" Reid, Barney Fwank, Joe "Plugs" Biden and you are the liars and all it is on record. You quote ABC, their liars too. The Capital Police estimated the Tea Party at 2.1M. If that's lie, why did the govt. have to shut down all the roads to DC? lack of use, lol. If the roads weren't so congested, we'd have a lot more there.

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44 TheQuail (125 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Cambridge,

Please lighten up on ProMerkin. Look at the time/date stamps on his post. Poor guy has nothing else to do all day, everyday but spout his illogic on the Vindy Web site.

He's got the time on his hands because he is taking full advantage of the "socialistic" program called Social Security. He's got his cut of the pie . . . now he just wants to keep others from getting theirs.

I enjoy when he spouts. Thank god he's not a liberal. It would be embarrassing if his incessant, brand of meaningless drivel was spouted for our side. It would cheapen our message.

Keep up the good work ProMerkin . . . and don't forget to cash next month's check.

The Quail

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45 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

UnAmerican.....You lie and and provide nothing to back those lies up.

I check out your group "The Cleveland Teabaggers" I found a couple videos on YouTube. Looks like a real bright group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeN0JRFGP...

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46 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge, I lie, lol. You checked the Cleveland Tea Patriots online. Are you hallucinating? Having an acid flashback or is it just a pshchotic episode. Do you remember what you were doing in the late 60's-early 70's or later?

I'm self employed and I have access to my computer; I've dedicated a lot of my time defending America against leftest lying scum.Don't feel sorry for me, I'm finacially capable (selfj-made) to do what I'm doing. I don't belong to the Lucky S...m Club like the socialist Kennedys. I've never cashed a check I didn't earn and I've paid lots of unfair taxes to support those who do, but I'm not complaining, I live in America, the greatest nation of all time and God willing I'm doing pretty well in spite of rich socialists in DC and their on the dole minions who elect them. God Bless America.

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47 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

I paid into Social Security against my will, so did all my employers so they had to raise their prices the consumers pay for goods and services. SS (look familiar) is a giant Ponsi Scheme making Bernie Madoff look microscopic. Unearned check? The Kennedys receiving a royality for every bottle of Scotch imported into the USA.A "public service" union in Galveston, Texas was so upset that their members made 4x the ROI than Soc. Sec. so that very union, their protectors, help pass legislation to abolish their private pension plan. Nice going commie union. It's all about power over you proletariats. Power over you "minds" prosperity, freedom and souls.

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48 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

UnAmerican.....I took your advice and checked out the "Cleveland Teabaggers" web site. The link below is their home page. The photo section on the right is the most hilarious part. Looks like a "Clown Hall Meeting".

http://clevelandteaparty.webs.com/

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49 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge, still lying or just flying on chemicals or both? 2.1M in DC. We are Tea Party Patriots, why do you talk so lovingly about tea bagger? Fantasizing, lol. All those royalities to the Kennedy tribe for every bottle of imported Scotch? No wonder Ted was always drunk. The more successful the conservatives enjoy, the bigger lie like CamBilge tell. Someone should tell him he will start believing his own lies. It's his escape from reality. Fantasy.

Sorry you're so depressed. You've had a bad last few weeks. Your rich socialist murdering hero died from "brain cancer" and now the millions of American Patriots rising up, demanding abiding by the US Constitution, and all paid for by themselves, not being paid by George Soros and chartering their own tranportation.

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50 TheQuail (125 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

ProMerkin,

You are such a hypocrite. You' are as bad as the members in Congress who want to exempt themselves from the health care reform.

You continue to participate each and every month in socialist system and will cash that check every week. Or maybe you've kept track of how much you put in and will decline further checks once that amout is reached . . . yeah, right. You willingly participate . . . now.

OK, now that you've read this, I'll watch you divert attention from your own hypocisy by talking about Kennedy, Pelosi, or someone else.

The Quail

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51 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Quail, you just cited why I'm opposed to the Dem socialist health reform bill. they also exemped themselves from the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Do you really believe Kennedy and Pelosi will be included in their own health care plan? I'm entitled to Soc. Sec. It doesn't matter if I approved into paying into it or not because I did pay. I did much better with my own private savings and 401K. I don't need big government making my decisions and over taxing me to pay for their enslaving programs. I'm a capitalist. Let us alone. If you socialists want to be treated like irresponsible children by big daddy govt., you have the right, be my guest. Don't forget Soc. Sec., Medicare, etc. are bankrupt. But don't be concerned, your children and grandchildren will pay for it by overwhelming higher taxes so they will have less freedom and prosperity for their own families and themselves. Big Daddy Govt. wants to keep you poor (Cap Gains, Inheritence, Income, Soc. Sec., Medicare) all taxes. Make $ you risked and can lose with $ money you were already paid taxes on and get hammered with Cap. Gains Tax. Leave you hard earned $ which you paid taxes on and you heirs on taxed again. Big govt. promotes hinder freedom, hindering incentice and prosperity and telling us it's good for us. lol.

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52 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

UnAmerican....."2.1M in DC"

The Washington Post says: Liar Liar pants on fire.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009...

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53 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge, still talking lie a kid. See his previous attempt a a taunt? And lying. 2.1M did attent the National Tea Party. What is you maturity age level? Seven? Were all those people in DC on 912 trick photography videos? No wonder your're a socialist who refuses the recognize the truth. What can we expect from a seven year old? Of course, King George The Third couldn't or wouldn't accept the truth as well and he lost his campaign, just like all you socialists lost your health care death trap; which is as dead as Ted, so bury it, it's just another rotting corpse.

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54 Search4Answers (612 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Pro, where are you getting this 2.1 Million number? I have a feeling you are talking about who showed up nationwide to all tea party events and I have a feeling Cambridge is talking about DC specifically.

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55 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Yes, I am. 2.1M. I've been refering to it since yesterday.

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56 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Search....UnAmerican claims the DC Police say 2.1 million were in DC. I'm waiting for him to post their press release or verification of their statement. He can't post it because it doesn't exist because they never said it. It's just one of the voices in his head. So far every news organization I have referred to says less than 100,000. From now on every time a lie is posted I'm going to post reputable proof it's a lie.

UnAmerican,,,,,"2.1M at DC tea party".

CBS News says: Liar Liar pants on fire.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/1...

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57 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge. Check out Glen Beck, Fox News Hannity, even local newspapers if you don't believe us. The Washington DC Capital police and your own conscience. I can't make you admit the truth (2.1M in DC); maybe you won't even admit it to yourself. You "believe" CNN but not the video of Tea Partiers having peaceful assembly from The Capital Building to the Washinton Monument. OBAMACARE IS DEAD! You freedom hating socialists can't accept the truth and are in denial. Just like all of you and the UFCW can't accept the truth the Sav A Lot employees overwhelming rejected them. That's why they avoid another free and fair election. The will of the people ( Henry's employees, the public and his customers have spoken). No wonder unions expect a huge payback from community organizer in chief and the Dem party. Employee Free Choice Act. That's the only way Mafia-socialist thug unions can win the support of the rank and file, through intimidation, beatings, lying, rigged elections, harassing employees to and from work, during their work breaks, in the company parking lot and at their homes. Signing them up for magazines, etc.

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58 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

UnAmerican,,,,,"2.1M in DC"

Post the link where the Capital Police back up your statement.

The link below is a video from Comcast.net. They say: Liar Lair pants on fire.

A reporter interviews some of the "Tea Baggers". One of them could be you. Check it out and let me know if your one of the clowns the reporter is talking too.

http://www.comcast.net/video/d-c-tea-par...

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59 epicfail (171 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/...

Wrong as usual Pro...

Your quotes of millions is based on a local news report's estimate. Turns out... not so much.

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60 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

epicfail.....who ya going to believe, Fox News or UnAmerican? Poor guy thought he was going to the Million Moron March and they couldn't even find 100,000 morons to show up.

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61 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge and Epic, the Capital Police stated 2.1m as it's unofficial estimate. 2.1M, get used to to truth. CNN = tens of thousands? How can it be so underestimated? We were stretched from the Capital building to the Washington Monument.

CamBilge, just look at the video. Does that look like 10s of thousands to you. Got'cha again Bilge, I know the Capital Police doesn't make official estimates b/c socialists like you will allege corruption.

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62 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

The video.

http://www.breitbart.tv/how-big-was-the-... rally/

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63 Nonsocialist (349 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

The pictures I've seen show the TEA Party crowd on 12 Sept to extend from the Capitol Building to the Washington Monument. No one knows the actual number, but from what I've read, The London Daily Mail could even be underestimating the attendance figure. Of course there were simultaneous TEA party gatherings across the country drawing thousands at each, and these are not included (obviously) in the DC estimates.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnew...

Don't fret libs. You still hold electoral power with the government-dependent/youth/union voting block. You'll just have to rule with more of an iron fist.

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64 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Nonsocialist, Do you ever speculate how the socialists feel to have to tell one lie after another to cover your previous lie? I was at the DC Tea Party. Our marchers DID extend from the Capital Building to the Washington Monument. I was there! 2.1M. Cambridge attempted to trip me up by challanging me to prove the Capital Police of 2.1M. Little did he know and I know they don't issue official estimates on the size of a crowd.

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65 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Nonsocialist.....Any chance of getting a reputable news organization in this country to back up that claim? Your actually going with The Daily Mail from the UK over Fox News?

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66 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

CamBilge, Like CNN, NBC and NPR or any other socialist loving America hating journalists? 2.1M! 2.1M! And you socialists STILL lie. If there were not 2.1M, what's your estimate? LOL. I've viewed numerous videos of this historic event. It was massive. 2.1M, and the vast majority was respectful of the police and even the lunatic ACORN fringe. Not one of us disrupted their foolish antics when they intruded our midst. Imagine if a few Tea Party Patriots were present at an ACORN or SEIU rally. They'd have been beaten to death for exercising their right to free speech the same way we let the ACORN ROTTEN NUTS exercise theirs? No swearing, no fighting with the cops or anyone who disagreed with us, no litter. I'm proud of the way we American patriots behaved. The left not only has to pay their rent a mob but their transportation too. Terrorizing CEO's in front of their homes and bank managers by taking over his office demanding they approve loans to clients who don't even work.

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67 Nonsocialist (349 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Cambridge,

I vary my cited sources because I seek info from different sources. I've never used this London publication before. Maybe you could provide a list of authorities that I'm not allowed to use as a source, because it seems to be extensive. I'm guessing that you feel Air America, MSNBC and HuffPo are pretty solid. Better yet, why not use fact and reason to dispute the info I've presented. While you're at it, ask yourself why the Housing ACORN scandal is censored by the non-Fox media. This is a group with close ties to Obama and receives BILLIONS from the Federal Treasury. Why was the Czar Van Jones story essentially a Fox story, even after he resigned?

Question authority. Question all authority. Even if it is the DSP or the GOP. Don't be somebody's lapdog. Be a freedom-ophile...a liberty-monger. Turn from the dark side...

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68 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

Nonsocialist.....You use a right wing blogger as a source. LOL! "The Center For Immigration Studies". Give me a break. I'm guessing the the center is the guys kitchen table. All of his blogs have a right wing agenda as indicated by the list on his link below. I don"t see where his blog is featured in any newspapers. I don't see a single advertiser on the web site. Know why he's not featured in any newspapers and has no adds? His site gets no hits.

http://www.cis.org/taxonomy/term/60

The "Daily Mail" from the UK. Who ever heard of that. I don't really care what you use to backup your views but if you use bloggers and obscure newspapers from outside the country I'm going to have to laugh at you and put you in the same file as UnAmerican. :-)

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69 Search4Answers (612 comments)posted 2 months, 9 days ago

I think we all have to accept that there is something wrong with our healthcare system. The public option is highly devisive. We need to find things that we all agree on (and there are some) and get those things done. Start with tort reform, do it separate from the other reforms.

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70 andersonathan (384 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Go to michellemalkin.com she has a chart for Obama's big day and the release of how many people could fit on the main street from the White house to the capital According to Obama's people the street would hold well over 900 thousand. Malkin has a picture taken around 10:45 am on the 12Th the same street is entirely packed clear to the Capital building. At this time of day buses were being re-routed to other parking side streets were filling up and thousands came in and left all day long.

So all you little haters out there Change is on the way and you just might not like it as your limp wrist, lost in liberal land minds start to explode or at least over heat more and more. So go slip some Kool Aid in the crack pipe and keep smoking it and go watch keith overbite

And i guess the Vindy will not cover real news, not only did ACORN and the pimps up and ho's down thingy happen in Balt but DC and NYC, the census said thanks but no thanks to them and gave them a pink slip, and the senate just pulled funding from them tonight!!!

So Barry O the great community organizer of every liberals dream, ACORN seems to be a little dirty all over? And did I hear right today that a amendment was added to health care making Illegals illegal for care?

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71 Nonsocialist (349 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Cambridge,

Refer to the link below re: the Center for Immigration Studies. It lists its Fellows, Board of Directors, and staff. It also lists accolades from United States Senators, Representatives and even a DSP Governor. In other words, "the center is the guys kitchen table" is clearly not true.

Why is a London media source illegitimate in your view? Only the NYT and CNN got it figured out? Seriously?

Does all the DSP rhetoric really add up in your mind? Because neither the GOP nor the DSP rhetoric adds up in mine. They profit from creating false divisions amongst us. They both bankrupt us and lie to us to retain power. You seem too smart to be falling for all this.

http://www.cis.org/About

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72 andersonathan (384 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Cambridge maybe Obama Care will fund a rehab for all his Kool Aid drinkers and in your case the I V usage. grant it it may not bring you back to reality any time soon. But it might just bring to a sorta conscious state instead of a comatose one.

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73 TheQuail (125 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Let me guess ProMerkin . . . you also participate in Medicare and the drug supplement program for retired people.

The bottom line is that you still voluntary participate in "socialist" programs that benefit you . . . while you huff and puff about the horrors of socialism.

You are truly the worst kind of hypocrite . . . one who stomps about in a self-righteous funk, all the while commiting the same egregious sins of which you accuse others of committing.

Why does the name Jimmy Swaggart come to mind when I think of you?

Shame, ProMerkin . . . shame!

Have a nice day of relaxation ProMerkin. I've got to go to work now to support your closet socialism.

The Quail

Now you will deflect criticism of your own activities by telling us again how bad the "Bamster, Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi, Harry "Girly" Reid, Barney Fwank, Joe "Plugs" Biden." It's what you WILL do, because it's all you CAN do.

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74 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Quail, you socialists are doing all the accusing. Calling us an angry mob, NAZIs, terrorists, etc. MEDICARE, IT'S BANKRUPT! Who's going to pay for it, our grandchildren through much higher taxes.

Compare me to a hipocritical degenerate like Jimmy Swaggart? What about ACORN, the rotten nut advising a p..p and p........e how to conceil their illegal business, how to avoid paying taxes, instructions on how to hide underage girls for prostitution and declaring 3 of the 13 as dependents? Condoning prostitution by advising a 20 year girl to be proud to be a prostitution.

I don't voluntarily use socialist systems like Soc. Sec. or Medicare (illegal govt. mandated Ponzi Schemes). I was forced paying into them against my will in lieu of less govt. Why can't I purchase my plans of choice from the 1300 insurance companies competing across state lines and/or forming our own group plans. Those two freedoms would reduce premium costs, increase competition and maximize better health care.It's called capitalism (economic freedom). Why do you socialist slavers oppose it?

Socialism is for weak minded, greedy, stupid, lazy, uniformed fools who fear making their own decisions and want someone to do it for them because it's a no brainer. I'll say it again, Lenin laughingly called you as he saw you, USEFUL IDIOTS!

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75 JeffLebowski (859 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

I agree, pro; the Swaggart thing was an unfair comparison...Swaggart was able to sway people without using silly, third-grade level nicknames as motivation. Swaggart preyed upon weak-mindedness while you prey upon people's ignorance and the notion that if you repeat the same things 500 times that eventually people will buy into it.

Swaggart was good at what he did while you simply fail multiple times each day. I've said it before but if you have to call people names and insult their intelligence to further your argument that means your argument is helplessly and impossibly weak. This is the same argument style from the 50's when people like McCarthy used similar approaches to try to force our society to regress rather than evolve; it didn't work then and it won't work now.

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76 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Jeff, I don't know if Swaggart was a success but as far as McCarthy, he was right. Numerous communists finally admited McCarthy was right about their communism.

The modern day McCarthyite is comprized by people like you, controlling the lying socialist media, lying about ObamaCare, the number of Tea Party Patriots, supporting racists like Rev. Wright, Van Jones, czars wanting forced abortions, putting down the elderly, flooding our borders with illegal immigrants, forcing workers to join unions they oppose without a secret ballot, supporting p..p and p........es, promoting child sexual abuse, tax evasion, declaring enslaved underage girls forced into prostitution as tax dependents, attacking an innocent conservative black conservative (had to be hospitalized) by communist union mafia thugs in St. louis for exercising his right to free speech. Defying the Americans a right to choose their own healt care plan, increased taxes so the ACORN NUTS can get tax breaks and subsities (8M).You socialists hate the US Constitution b/c it guarantees American citizens basic rights from God.

JEFF YOU ARE A RACIST!

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77 TheQuail (125 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

ProMerkin,

You really need to get back on that medicine! With all this pent up anger, you're going to give yourself a stroke.

For god's sake, go outside, and enjoy the weather or something. There is more to life than Micheal Savage and constantly railing against those who don't embrace your political views. Not everyone can embrace socialist philopsophy as wholeheartedly as do you.

Besides, if you have a stroke, the rest of us socialists will have to take care of you.

Have you considered enrolling in some of the free mental health care programs that our benevolent socialist caretakers so willingly provide for us? You really seem like a prime candidate for such services.

Jeff, Good points on the Jimmy Swaggart comparison. I withdraw my comment. I'll replace it as soon as I can think of a better example.

OK . . . lunch is over. Got to go back to work for the party and the good of society.

The Quail

BTW Cambridge: I really appreciate you coming up with the name ProMerkin. As you probably already know, the true definition of "Merkin" is a great metaphor for ProMerkin's political views.

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78 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Quail, I pay for my own private insurance, I'm not on the public dole like all you socialist parasites. There are more people than Keith Oberbite, just b/c someone doesn't agree with your political views doesn't mean he is nuts. You socialists are not only mentally insane, you're criminally mentally insane. Remember, I'm against the health care "reform" parasitical enslavement. How dare you to expect someone else to pay your insurance. Gutless, lazy, narrow minded use idiots.

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79 JeffLebowski (859 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Defending McCarthyism...not surprising in the least ProMerkin. Seems like yesterday that innocent people were being blacklisted in a thinly-veiled form of legal racism, doesn't it? Not for me, of course, I'm not a geriatric...you get the point though.

"... narrow minded use idiots." You got so worked up I think you typoed your mantra there, buddy. A fail within a fail -- well done.

The Swaggart thing happened a long time ago and I was just a kid at that point but I believe he made millions of dollars from his racket; you just make yourself appear ignorant and give the impression that you breathe exclusively though your mouth...Swaggart wins on that basis and on the fact that he almost had to be a better speller than you.

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80 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

McCarthy was destroyed by the same socialist establishment media which has brainwashed you into believing communists shouldn't have been blacklisted; they who wanted to destroy America.

Want to talk racism? The black conservative who was seriously beaten up by 6 SEIU Mafia-socialist thugs, one of which was black who even went as far as to call an innocent black man exercising his free speech right a N PERSON! Who protected that victim from racist union violence, the Tea Party Patriots, most of which were white. If not, who know if they'd have killed him. That's how you leftests behave; and all he did was assemble, guaranteed in the US Constitution, not like the 2.1M Tea party Patriots in DC on 912 all of which were polite, respectful, orderly ladies and gentlemen.

JEFF, YOU ARE THE RACIST, YOU AND YOUR MAFIA-SOCIALIST UNION THUGS!

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81 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

UnAmerican......"2.1M Tea Party Patriots in DC"

The Associated Press says: Liar Liar Pants on Fire.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/U...

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82 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

CamBilge, thank you for you posts. Please keep them coming. I love how you socialists lie and in the process make fools of yourselves to ratonal human beings. 2.1M and law enforcement had to shut DC down or else there would have been even more..2.1M in DC doesn't count the numerous Tea Parties around the country on 912. What are the multitudes of patriots in DC stretching from the Capital Building to the Washington Monument? An illusion? The reason you can deny it is b/c we were respectful, polite, sober citizens who exercised our rights and didn't infringe on anyone else's and respected the police as well. Not like you socialist anti-freedom ACORN ROTTEN NUTS, thug unions like the SEIU who disrupt, intimidate, beat up and terrorize at the homes of executives and their innocent families; charter buses paid for by unions and the rent a mob which they are being paid wages to work. We financed our own DC trip, meals and transportation with charter buses and the Metroliner. The reason, we're American patriots, not socialist cowardy thugs. We didn't even harass or shout down the socialist lunatic fringe health care proponents who marched into our midst from the Capital Building to the Washington Monument. The provided us with comic relief.
What would the socialists do if they were 2.1M strong and we were present? They'd have murdered us. But what can you expect from Mafia-socialist thugs and degererate ACORN members who condone p..ps and prostitutes to sexually abuse innocent underage girls (illegal aliens) as prostitutes, instructions on tax evasion and claiming poor underage girls forced to work as sex workers as dependents?

Does that upset you? I DON'T THINK SO!

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83 JeffLebowski (859 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

ProMerkin, were you present in STL when the event that you inaccurately describe took place? I ask because it took place less than 10 miles from my home and I've spoken with people from both sides of the issue that actually were in attendance, their versions of the events are identical and differ completely with your version.

Your perspective and sense of reality are equally warped. I suggest you leave the house more often, not just to burn crosses and attend conservative, anti-American rallies. Go to the track and play the slots or something, I'm told that they even have nickel slots for those on fixed incomes.

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84 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Jeff, don't you and the other lying socialists get tired of my beating you over the head with the truth? You just told more lies concerning the largest gathering in the history of DC. I was one of the proud patriots in DC and You and I and all your socialist truth fearers know it. Quit attempting to dazzle us with you nickel and dime words and vocabulary. It doen't work, it's simply ineffective against what you socialists fear most, the truth. I'm not on a fixed income and I don't critize anybody who is on a fixed income. What do you socialists want to do with the senior citizens who are, give 'em a pain pill in lieu of an organ transplant, joint implant or bypass surgery? Maybe the Bambster will promote you to the Death Panel Czar? would you like that? Just what is you estimate of the crowd in DC on 912? Do you have a figure? I'll say it again. JEFF YOU ARE A RACIST! You never offered one word of critizism against the SEIU Mafia-socialist thugs who beat up a black man, aren't they racists? I know, it's ok to beat up a black men, or even if a black socialist union member calls him the N word befor beating him up with his white union "brothers"if you disagree with him. RACIST! You are a discredit to your own race. Someone like you would call someone like you an oriele.

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85 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

UnAmerican....This is the video of the beating that has you panties in a bunch. I'll say the same thing I said the first time I saw this video. I've seen Nuns give better beatings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh...

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86 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

UnAmerican...."2.1M tea party patriots in DC"

USA TODAY say: Liar Liar pants on fire.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/...

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87 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

CamBilge, I saw a man being beaten by at least 6 SEIU Mafia-socialist thugs. If conservatives beat a lib like that, they'd be demanding a congressional hearing and wanting to declare the state a diaster area. It doesn't disturb you when ACORN rotten nuts board buses paid for by THE SEIU to terrorize families of ceo's. Or when it attempts to instruct someone how to hide underage illegal immigrant girls for prostution. Not at all.

STILL LYING AND RECITING NURSERY RHYMES THAT LITTLE GIRLS USE TO TEASE LITTLE BOYS THEY HAVE A CRUSH ON?
How do you know if I wear panties. Looking up my jeans?

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88 redvert (495 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Do not mean to hijack this thread but for all of you that still consider yourselves to be Americans, save a little energy to discuss the happenings scheduled for Sept. 25th. I am referring to the next scheduled gathering in the nations capital.

It will possibly wake a few of the libs up, but not all!

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89 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

I'll be there. I wonder if the leftos will dismiss that huge rally as being only 60,000 like a few of the losers in this blog, lol. I was there on 912 and law enforcement was forced to shut down DC. So numerous Tea Party buses were denied entry into the city. CamBilge, Jeff and the other socialists were just as impressed as the patriots but continue lying to us and themselves about the numbers that day. We stretched from the Capital Building to the Washington Monument as wide as the street and overflowing onto the lawns on both sides. Jeff even said I was totally wrong about the size of the rally which proves socialists are pathalogical liars who believe their own lies. I keep dicing, slicing, beating and mashing them with the thing they fear most and have absolutely no defense. THE TRUTH! The video of the DC Tea Party tells it all. I suppose the socialists believe those videos are trick computer generated photography.

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90 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

UnAmerican.....I haven't said one word about how many tea baggers were in DC. All I've done is post links from reputable news organizations and everyone of them says less than 100,000. Below is the list of those news orginizations.

San Francisco Chronicle
ABC News
Washington Post
CBS News
OpEd News
Comcast.net
Fox News
Associated Press
USA Today

redvert....thanks for letting me know what the qualifications are to consider myself an American.

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91 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

CamBilge, welcome back for one more of your multiple daily beatings. I enjoy administering them as much as you enjoy receiving them. I was there and I'll say it again. We stretched from the Capital Building to the Washington Monument. We overflowed over both sides of the street and onto the adjacent lawns. The city had to shut down and not all our buses could attend.

Less than 100,000, lol. I'm sure you forced yourself to view the numerous videos from 912. If that crowd was less than 100,000, Dead Ted isn't dead, just sleeping off another drunkern stupor.

Did you see the Huffy Report? Just as I predicted, it claimed the video was doctored. DC law enforcement would not have had to shut down DC for less than 100,000 marchers. Come clean, admit the socialist health care rip off bill is dead but there are still losers like you who beg to be enslaved by big govt. b/c you don't have the guts to believe in the American System and yourself.

I'll be ready for your next intellectual truth beating. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do giving it to you. Pro-American come here quick, and bring that lickin' stick.

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92 redvert (495 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

cambridge, you obviously have no idea what I am referring to! You like to provide data, do a little research!

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93 redvert (495 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Ok, take a break for a minute!

cambridge, have a sense of humor!

California 's Turn...So as not to be outdone by all the redneck, hillbilly, and Texan jokes, somebody had to come up with this:

You know you're from California if:

1.Your co-worker has 8 body piercings and none are visible.

2.You make over $300,000 and still can't afford a house.

3. You take a bus and are shocked at two people carrying on a conversation in English.

4..Your child's 3rd-grade teacher has purple hair, a nose ring, and is named Flower.

5..You can't remember . . is pot illegal?

6.You've been to a baby shower that has two mothers and a sperm donor.

7.You have a very strong opinion about where your coffee beans are grown, and you can taste the difference between Sumatran and Ethiopian.

8.You can't remember . . is pot illegal?

9.A really great parking space can totally move you to tears.

10.Gas costs $1.00 per gallon more than anywhere else in the U.S.

11.Unlike back home, the guy at 8:30 am at Starbucks wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses who looks like George Clooney really IS George Clooney.

12. Your car insurance costs as much as your house payment.

13.You can't remember . . is pot illegal?

14.It's barely sprinkling rain and there's a report on every news station: "STORM WATCH.."

15.You pass an elementary school playground and the children are all busy with their cells or pagers.

16.It's barely sprinkling rain outside, so you leave for work an hour early to avoid all the weather-related accidents.

17.HEY!!!! Is pot illegal????

18..Both you AND your dog have therapists, psychics, personal trainers and cosmetic surgeons.

19.The Terminator is your governor.

20.If you drive illegally, they take your driver's license. If you're here illegally, they want to give you one.

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94 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

redvert....LOL! True that.

Ah....pot is legal, right?

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95 JeffLebowski (859 comments)posted 2 months, 8 days ago

Merkin, I never commented on the size nor events of your DC gathering, mainly because I don't know what gathering you are referring to. Didn't even mention it...yet you say I did. Warped reality...keep up your courageous fight against common sense.

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96 Ceaman (18 comments)posted 2 months, 7 days ago

Capitalism works? It does for 1% of the country who own 95% of the wealth in this country.

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97 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 7 days ago

Jeff, you are demented and out of touch with reality. If you don't know what gathering I'm talking about, perhaps you better concentrate on you reading comprehension and a lot less attempting to dazzle us with your nickel and dime vocabulary. St. Louis, ok. do you deny your socialist racist pals (SEIU) didn't attack and beat up an innocent black conservative. RACIST!

Ceaman, you are too b/c you can't recognize capitalism is superior to all other economic, social and political systems by far. What other nation currently or in history has had such a large middle class (in spite of the socialist onslaught of this and current administrations)? What other nation do millions of poor people risk live, limb and even being murdered to come to our shores (many of them arrive broke, become successful and provide employment for so many others)? Cubans, for example, are just one group which has. Can any country's citizens in the world compare with the average American's wealth? Poor people in America own big screen tv's, high tech electronics like computers and own more than one car. Compare them to the starving people around the world. Get real.

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98 cambridge (915 comments)posted 2 months, 7 days ago

UnHinged.....You keep referring to six thugs almost killing some guy. The video is in post 85 on this page. The guy gives an interview after it happened. He isn't out of breath, he isn't lumped up, he isn't bleeding. How can you be from Y-town and call that a beating?

That was an everyday occurrence in the neighborhood I grew up in and we would be choosing sides to play baseball with the same kids two hours later. Man your a p***y.

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99 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 6 days ago

He had to go to the hospital. The p...... are the SEIU and you. 6 Mafia-socialist union thugs to 1. That's how unions operate. Cowards. No one was choosing sides for sandlot baseball. A conservative black man was called the N word before the 6 cowards ganged up on him. His crime, exercising his right to free speech. Who's the angry mob?

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100 TheQuail (125 comments)posted 2 months, 6 days ago

Why all the arguing over how many attended Merkin's little tea party?

We all know there are far too many right wing whackos in the world. Does the exact count really matter all that much?

Let's just go with Merkin's estimate . . . there were 1.2 million people just like him there. Hmmm, what a hilarious thought! That had to be quite a sight! Just like Ringling Brothers in it's heyday I'll bet. Hey Merkin, can you post some pictures somewhere for us!

Hang in there Merkin. Only 15 days until you get your next government check! (The food stamps came last week, right?)

The Quail

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101 ProAmerican (1059 comments)posted 2 months, 6 days ago

Quail, you're the one who'se laughable. The food stamp program people = Democrats. Left Wing Nuts have to lie (the ACORN Tapes were doctored up). Huffington Post = DC Tea Party video doctored up, LOL! Ringling Bros. I saw polite, courteous, respectful, peaceful, hard working, angry Americans. You leftos are the angry mob. We were even polite to the Left WingNuts who invaded our peaceful rally. What would have happened to a few Tea Partiers if we did the same to you Left WingNuts (Dems, ACORN, AFL-CIO, SEIU rally)? When you leftos are losing, you get even more looney and crazy and violent. LOSERS, USEFULL IDIOTS! How do you losers like your hero, Lenin calling your exactly what you are? Useful Idiots.

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