Making gambling {slots, poker machines, etc} legal in Ohio would be OK if the permits were issued like liquor permits so ANYONE who meets the proper criteria could be issued one. Making it casino only that requires millions of dollars in initial investments leaves most busine ss people out of the opportunity. As far as helping the "local" economy, take a good look at the surrounding area of Mountaineer Park. Looks like the same redneck trailer park that it did before...
I clicked Yes, but I'm still on the fence on this one. There are some really good arguments on both sides.
It's probably going to come down to the lesser of two evils for me. I don't want the big companies to run just a few casinos, but I also want to stop the flow of Ohio $$ to neighboring states.
This is probably our only real chance to pass it, since the near-sighted voters in this state have shot down reasonable proposals in the past.
Anothermike: The last thing we need in this state is another huge bureaucracy charged with managing the conduct of thousands of little gambling sites. Seems like that would generate a hoge expense that would offset any financial gains.
The out-of-state casino owners are spending huge amounts of dollars on TV ads to convince us to vote no. Why is that? Think about it. They do not want Ohio competition. And they do not want Ohio dollars to stay in Ohio. These out-of-state interests DO NOT contribute tax dollars to Ohio. VOTE YES to keep Ohio money in Ohio!
Until all ramifications arose on this subject, I never thought much about it. Illegal book making (lottery) is by far a better revenue for Ohio. Lottery players normally do not cause their families grief and poverty--nor do they need Dr.'s of Psychiatry.
If Issue 3 passes, than that would be the death sentence for the possibility of casinos in Y-town forever. If Issue 3 fails, than a motivated Valley citizenry could push for a casino ballot measure for Y-town in the future.
No Ohio town deserves casinos more than us. A riverfront casino(s) would stimulate growth of a downtown gas-light district including shops, hotels and restaurants. Our geographic location would bring in Pennsylvania revenue rather than a central location that just re-circulates Ohio revenue.
I would respond to anothermike's concerns about Mountaineer by noting improvements to Atlantic City and the Quad Cities.
A Youngstown Casino would be a revenue rainmaker and would result in a reduction in local property and sales taxes,and increased revenue for schools, police and fire departments and roads, etc.
This issue is not about gambling, it is about do we want to change our State Constitution to allow a monoply that forever restricts the economic developement of the Valley, those who wrote this legislation have guaranteed that the Valley will never see riverboat gambling or the creation of gambling jobs in the Valley, with that said I voted early and I voted NOooooooooo!!!!!!!
Can you believe Jeff Jacobs? He tried to partner with Dan Gilbert and wanted a sweet heart deal. When they couldn’t reach an agreement he told them if it is not his way he will spend millions to defeat the bill. Not only is he spending millions but he is spreading lies and is worse than a School boy Bully. Here is a guy that owns numerous casinos around the neighbor states telling everyone that casinos ruin families create gambling addicts, drug addiction and promote prostitution. Jeff do you think we are all really that stupid? This is only going to happen in Ohio and not at your casinos? While I would have liked Youngstown to have a casino, I am not going to cut my nose to spite my face. I am voting “Yes” and when the issue passes and they build a casino in Cleveland, I will visit Cleveland and not go anywhere else. At least the tax dollars will end up in OHIO and back in the Valley.
Sorry Jeffery, you big bully, we are not that stupid and you should be taken out back and spanked.
Simply put, this issue is crap. Why are we granting monopoly power over the gambling industry and permitting them only to be built in select cities? This does nothing for the Mahoning Valley, period. We reap no benefits from this.
I am for gambling in Ohio provided 1.) is is legislated as part of the O.R.C. and can be changed if needed (unlike the current amendment which has no being part of the Ohio Constitution) and 2.) every county has the opportunity, not just granting certain cities the permits for casinos.
Will it keep Ohio dollars in Ohio? Probably, but having said that, this proposal does jack for Mahoning County and as a resident, I'm personally insulted they would try and put one over on us again.
I'm for gambling, but I don't think this is right for Ohio.
They seem to be trying to blind people to potential problems by using every politician's favorite promise of bringing more jobs. If their promises were true we'd have more jobs than people. Corporate interests are trying to sway us to both sides as people have outlined in prior posts.
Instead of fighting over whether there should be gambling in Ohio we should be discussing whether this particular issue is right for Ohio. Is this something we believe is right for Ohio or do the risks and the fact we are putting this in our state's constitution outweigh the benefits?
I don't believe this is right for Ohio or in particular our Valley.
For an area that has voted overwhelmingly for casinos, this Issue certainly isn't getting the support the past ones have... granted this is an unscientific poll.
NO- we don't need to teach our young that the only way they can get work is by getting 54,000 gambling jobs. I would assume you don't need a college education to get one of those jobs. Than if they close, what does the young adult do then? They have nothing to fall back on. We need more industry, and big business to bring jobs in that the young that get a college education, is all they can get are Dealers,etc.All the retired men and women will apply, and probably get the jobs, so they can afford Health Insurance.I know I will not travel that far to gamble.
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Making gambling {slots, poker machines, etc} legal in Ohio would be OK if the permits were issued like liquor permits so ANYONE who meets the proper criteria could be issued one. Making it casino only that requires millions of dollars in initial investments leaves most busine ss people out of the opportunity. As far as helping the "local" economy, take a good look at the surrounding area of Mountaineer Park. Looks like the same redneck trailer park that it did before...
I am voting hell no on Issue 3. I want gambling, but not a gambling monopoly.
Vote NO!
I clicked Yes, but I'm still on the fence on this one. There are some really good arguments on both sides.
It's probably going to come down to the lesser of two evils for me. I don't want the big companies to run just a few casinos, but I also want to stop the flow of Ohio $$ to neighboring states.
This is probably our only real chance to pass it, since the near-sighted voters in this state have shot down reasonable proposals in the past.
Anothermike: The last thing we need in this state is another huge bureaucracy charged with managing the conduct of thousands of little gambling sites. Seems like that would generate a hoge expense that would offset any financial gains.
The Quail
The out-of-state casino owners are spending huge amounts of dollars on TV ads to convince us to vote no.
Why is that?
Think about it.
They do not want Ohio competition.
And they do not want Ohio dollars to stay in Ohio.
These out-of-state interests DO NOT contribute tax dollars to Ohio.
VOTE YES to keep Ohio money in Ohio!
Until all ramifications arose on this subject, I never thought much about it. Illegal book making (lottery) is by far a better revenue for Ohio. Lottery players normally do not cause their families grief and poverty--nor do they need Dr.'s of Psychiatry.
no
If Issue 3 passes, than that would be the death sentence for the possibility of casinos in Y-town forever. If Issue 3 fails, than a motivated Valley citizenry could push for a casino ballot measure for Y-town in the future.
No Ohio town deserves casinos more than us. A riverfront casino(s) would stimulate growth of a downtown gas-light district including shops, hotels and restaurants. Our geographic location would bring in Pennsylvania revenue rather than a central location that just re-circulates Ohio revenue.
I would respond to anothermike's concerns about Mountaineer by noting improvements to Atlantic City and the Quad Cities.
A Youngstown Casino would be a revenue rainmaker and would result in a reduction in local property and sales taxes,and increased revenue for schools, police and fire departments and roads, etc.
I just received an email from art schlichter, former star quarterback for ohio state, asking everyone to vote no on this.
This issue is not about gambling, it is about do we want to change our State Constitution to allow a monoply that forever restricts the economic developement of the Valley, those who wrote this legislation have guaranteed that the Valley will never see riverboat gambling or the creation of gambling jobs in the Valley, with that said I voted early and I voted NOooooooooo!!!!!!!
Can you believe Jeff Jacobs? He tried to partner with Dan Gilbert and wanted a sweet heart deal. When they couldn’t reach an agreement he told them if it is not his way he will spend millions to defeat the bill. Not only is he spending millions but he is spreading lies and is worse than a School boy Bully. Here is a guy that owns numerous casinos around the neighbor states telling everyone that casinos ruin families create gambling addicts, drug addiction and promote prostitution. Jeff do you think we are all really that stupid? This is only going to happen in Ohio and not at your casinos? While I would have liked Youngstown to have a casino, I am not going to cut my nose to spite my face. I am voting “Yes” and when the issue passes and they build a casino in Cleveland, I will visit Cleveland and not go anywhere else. At least the tax dollars will end up in OHIO and back in the Valley.
Sorry Jeffery, you big bully, we are not that stupid and you should be taken out back and spanked.
Vote YES on issue 3
Simply put, this issue is crap. Why are we granting monopoly power over the gambling industry and permitting them only to be built in select cities? This does nothing for the Mahoning Valley, period. We reap no benefits from this.
I am for gambling in Ohio provided 1.) is is legislated as part of the O.R.C. and can be changed if needed (unlike the current amendment which has no being part of the Ohio Constitution) and 2.) every county has the opportunity, not just granting certain cities the permits for casinos.
Will it keep Ohio dollars in Ohio? Probably, but having said that, this proposal does jack for Mahoning County and as a resident, I'm personally insulted they would try and put one over on us again.
I just got a dead fish from "Joe da Boss", He said vote no or else!
Hey dimebag - good one - was that a perch or a walleye?
More likely a carp!
Vote NO - Why create a monopoly for a few? Revise the constitution to allow slots anywhere and let many make a few bucks at there place of business
I'm for gambling, but I don't think this is right for Ohio.
They seem to be trying to blind people to potential problems by using every politician's favorite promise of bringing more jobs. If their promises were true we'd have more jobs than people. Corporate interests are trying to sway us to both sides as people have outlined in prior posts.
Instead of fighting over whether there should be gambling in Ohio we should be discussing whether this particular issue is right for Ohio. Is this something we believe is right for Ohio or do the risks and the fact we are putting this in our state's constitution outweigh the benefits?
I don't believe this is right for Ohio or in particular our Valley.
For an area that has voted overwhelmingly for casinos, this Issue certainly isn't getting the support the past ones have... granted this is an unscientific poll.
NO- we don't need to teach our young that the only way they can get work is by getting 54,000 gambling jobs. I would assume you don't need a college education to get one of those jobs. Than if they close, what does the young adult do then? They have nothing to fall back on.
We need more industry, and big business to bring jobs in that the young that get a college education, is all they can get are Dealers,etc.All the retired men and women will apply, and probably get the jobs, so they can afford Health Insurance.I know I will not travel that far to gamble.