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This would be a good investment for the area. With everything thats going on economically this would be just one new business to come on board in Trumbull County. You can't depend on GM to keep the area going. You are lucky they didn't shut the plant down although I think it would be a bad idea since it is a good location to build and ship from in any direction. These aircraft are already being used stratigicly and people don't even realize it. These jobs are also high paying jobs for the most part. they should be welcomed to the community.
It's all talk right now sadly. A lot of ideas for our area are just that. all talk but nothing comes form it.
No doubt to be as great a success as were Commuter Aircraft Corp. or Airship Enterprises. You do remember what great successes they were right? I mean, the area is just such a hub of innovative and lucrative aircraft manufacturing that we are renowned worldwide. You do know that, right??
Will we ever get to the point of regarding these cockamamie schemes for getting into the public treasury as the kookooland fantasies that they are?
You want big industries here that employ many? So do we all. Think for a minute. If you had a large manufacturing operation, would you locate it in the heart of the Mahoning Valley, there to be met with hostile union thugs, crooked politicians in a one-party power structure, and a rich tradition of multi-level corruption? Not if you had a brain in your head!
You want big employers? Great. Create the conditions that will allow smaller ones to grow to that level. Until you have done so, this is just blather, and cruel blather at that.
Tnmartin hit the nail on the head!! We need to understand the problems needing to be solved before continuing to talk about worthless solutions. We need to look and think beyond our own navels if we want to grow and prosper. Has anyone polled legitimate growth companies to ask what they want and need to locate or expand to a new area? Wow! That might be a start.
I am proud to be from Youngstown and I believe we can grow, but I tire of those who simply think that all we need to do is be proud and say positive things. Does the rest of the world - or at least those with money and jobs - value what we do? If not, we need to face reality and make some very real changes.
I hope to see it come to fruition. I have my doubts, but if this thing does fly, then go for it!
As long as Ohio remains a pro union state, we will get little to no manufacturing jobs here, plain and simple. Maybe the demise of GM and the UAW will someday lead to Ohio being a right to work state. If so, it is a long, long way off.
It's interesting that California, the most union of all states has the 8th largest economy on the planet. Has anyone noticed that as union membership in this country declines so do the working conditions and standard of living for all Americans? Except CEO's and Wall Street that is. Anyone think there might be a connection?
When an area becomes desperate enough, all sorts of shysters come out of the woodwork hoping to prey on the fears and hopes of the gullible. Commuter Aircraft, the airship plant, and so on are a generation or two ago - there are a whole new crop of simpletons today, ready to sign over the deed to the farm for some 'get-rich-quick' scheme.
And for those obsessed with their union-hating, cambridge makes a very good point. That discussion doesn't belong in this thread, however. The regular forums are stuffed full of union-hating fanaticism. Can't we keep that garbage out of each and every thread?
Quail says,"What exactly do you mean about "the demise of GM and the UAW." They're having serious problems, but are both still alive and functioning"
Technically being on life support still qualifies as being "alive and functioning"
Posted by the AP today!DETROIT – General Motors Corp. posted a $9.6 billion fourth-quarter loss and said it burned through $6.2 billion of cash in the last three months of 2008 as it fought the worst U.S. auto sales climate since 1982 and sought government loans to keep the century-old company running.
While the 2010 launch of Cruze is planned for Lordstown I would not count on anything as being a done deal. The Cruze may very well end up as a import if it is more cost effective for the GM that may exist in 2010.
Not trying to rag on anyone's opinion but it does not look good for GM to continue to function under it's current format. There is a old saying, "when nothing changes, nothing changes"
The politicians and/or the union will screw this up and scare them away.They will probably make employment stipulations that will make the area less attractive than, say Akron/Canton airport (which is closer to where they are now)I have no problem if they offer them tax abatements-providing they stipulate penalties if they leave before a certain time or something similar. The jobs would be welcomed and the boost to the area can only be regarded as a plus.
I think its a wonderful idea. I too, would like to help the area economy. I am currently working on ways to breed pigs with wings!I admit that there has been little success thus far, but hey I am working on it and just need a few bucks to get this piggy off the ground.
We need job restoration here people not job creation.
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