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If the election were held today, who would you vote for president?

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1DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

This question is a small pisture of everything that's wrong with this country.
You give two choices. So as citizens, we only have two choices? Dem or Red? That's it right.
I would have never guessed it would come to this level of ignorance, weakness, and simple mindedness. I guess I am in the right place to find it though.
Damn this country is screwed up.

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2HighCommand(1 comment)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

The one thing that anyone can count on in this area is that the dogma hasn't changed as far as Hate-mongering by a select few. I have lived in this valley since'72 and grew up both white and blue collar and the best thing going here is the tenacity of the citizens in tough times. The painful part has been the cannibalistic attacks of the two parties(we know who we are)upon each other. How about lifting up our eyes and see the true battlefield. The war that rages within each of us to find a common peace so we can prosper. Let's not give the victories to those who would use and abuse our electoral significance in this, as well as future,elections. For once I was considering changing party loyalty only to see that if ,nothing else, I would have to stay to my earlier convivtions. What made this country great should be honored. However, times change and so do people. Let's stand united after this election has come and gone so we can be busy with the trying times that face us and ours. May God bless the United States of America.

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3cambridge(4150 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

Or,if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of other people.

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4valleyred(1103 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago


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5John_Vindy(3 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

Barack Obama is not using taxpayers dollars to run his campaign. Transparency is important. Philosophicaly Barack Obama has the right attitude in this election. He is keeping his feet firmly on the ground despite huge crowds across the country. Americans are hungry for a leader to guide us through the current crisis at home and abroad. His policies are second to none after any careful examination. John McCain doesn't want to talk about the economy. Barack Obama has demonstrated sound judgement throughout his entire political career. Barack Obama will carryout the promises he made in this campaign. Please support and vote for Obama we cannot afford 4 more years of record deficitis.

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6andersonathan(687 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

John McCain doesn't want to talk about the economy. Barack Obama has demonstrated sound judgement throughout his entire political career.???????

Sound judgement? The simple fact the man keeps his records so recluse from everyone.

He is so on top of it his campanige took no steps in donor funding fraud, he accepts money from anybody, from any where.

He took that mighty Harvard law degree and ran into the most political corrupt city in the country.

And start long time associate lists of thugs, ex terrorists, racist pastors, ex PLO, and a Kenyan radical Muslim odinga.

Take the time to Google that! obama odinga.

And if it was not for George Soros , Democracy Alliance and National Amusements. The media just might be a little more even in reporting the truth, but instead the set him on a pedestal.

So if you take the time and look a bit the man is a wet empty suit. McCain Palin 2008

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7valleyred(1103 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

If the vote is this close in Mahoning County election day, Obama is in for a LONG night of surprises in Ohio and Pennsylvania... He should get 62% of the vote easily!

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8MzVirgoLuv(158 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

>He took that mighty Harvard law degree and ran into the most >political corrupt city in the country.

>And start long time associate lists of thugs, ex terrorists, >racist pastors, ex PLO, and a Kenyan radical Muslim odinga.

Did you not pay attention, McCain gave OVER $500,000 to PLO, and media have recently found out McCain has links and personal ties with William Ayers, McCain's pastor friend Hagen/Hagel (whatever his name is) was just as if not more racist than Wright...or do you have selective comprehension? Just stating the facts.

He took his degree and took a job that only paid $12,000 a year vs. the many multi-million dollar job offers he refused. As much as I am for helping, I don't think I have the guts to do that. I would've took the million dollar offers hands down. So, why don't you take a page out his book, and do some good. Vote for change and real hope. Vote Obama/Biden

And to the other poster who stated that we should come together despite party affiliation, you are so right. This election has brought out some of the worst in people and I don't like what I see. I have always experienced racism, but it was slyly done. Not during this election, it is being blatantly stated by many as I am sure it is going on on both sides. We are all human beings and need to help each other through these hard times and fighting only makes things worse. We know the truth and who the person should be in the white house despite which party you are affiliated with. Doing the right thing is always more important than doing what you want.

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9jfuze0905(82 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

"Barack Obama has demonstrated sound judgement throughout his entire political career."

And that would be with "present" votes?

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10andersonathan(687 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

This what McCain was involved in not having dinner at a jew hating party. See the new tape of Khalidi telling the Chicago political story On Sean Hannity

The International Republican Institute (IRI) was founded in 1983, after President Ronald Reagan's 1982 speech before the British Parliament in Westminster in which he proposed a broad objective of helping countries build the infrastructure of democracy. Quoting the U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights, he stated: "we must be staunch in our conviction that freedom is not the sole prerogative of a lucky few but the inalienable and universal right of all human beings."[2]

The Westminster speech led to the establishment of the National Endowment for Democracy by Congress in 1983. The endowment is a mechanism to channel congressional funds to the International Republican Institute and three other institutes: the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, the American Center for International Labor Solidarity, and the Center for International Private Enterprise. These organizations provide technical assistance to political bodies worldwide.

The majority of the IRI's funding comes from the National Endowment for Democracy.

At first, IRI focused on democratic institutions and processes in Latin America but has expanded its focus worldwide since the end of the Cold War. IRI has conducted programs in more than 100 countries and is currently active in 70 countries.

The IRI operates as a political organization abroad, providing training and assistance to political parties. As a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, it plays no part in domestic U.S. politics. However, the majority of its board, staff and consultants are drawn from the Republican Party. According to the National Relations Center website, the IRI's leadership "spans the center right, far right, and neoconservative factions of the Republican Party. Most of its staff and board have links to right-wing think tanks, foundations, and policy institutes, while many also represent major financial, oil, and defense corporations".

IRI works with the following organisations:

* United States State Department
* United States Agency for International Development
* National Endowment for Democracy
* National Democratic Institute for International Affairs
* International Foundation for Election Systems

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11andersonathan(687 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

Wednesday, October 22, 2008
Obama And Klonsky

Andrew McCarthy on yet another of Obama's communist links-

Here’s what you need to know. Klonsky is an unabashed communist whose current mission is to spread Marxist ideology in the American classroom. Obama funded him to the tune of nearly $2 million. Obama, moreover, gave Klonsky a broad platform to broadcast his ideas: a “social justice” blog on the official Obama campaign website.

To be clear, as it seems always necessary to repeat when Obamaniacs, in their best Saul Alinsky tradition, shout down the opposition: This is not about guilt by association. The issue is not that Obama knows Klonsky … or Ayers … or Dohrn … or Wright … or Rashid Khalidi …

The issue is that Obama promoted and collaborated with these anti-American radicals. The issue is that he shared their ideology.

And that's the point really, isn't it? It's no accident that Barack Obama has spent his entire adult life in the company of some of the most radical people in the US.

As Klonsky has explained, “My own support for Obama is … a recognition that the Obama campaign has become a rallying point for young activists and offers hope for rebuilding the civil rights and antiwar coalitions that have potential to become a real critical force in society.”

So get ready for Klonsky’s “social justice.” It’s what Barack Obama calls “change.”

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12cambridge(4150 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

Obama 08!

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13valleyred(1103 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

Awful close for this being a Democratic area. If it is 52-47% in Mahoning County on Election Day..... Obama is going down in Ohio.

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14andersonathan(687 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

The truth is, no matter how hard you try, you and people like you, can't hide the simple truth: Obama is not a socialist, he's not a Muslim, he is a Democrat, and he is a Christian. Also, he has the potential to be a truly great president.

Wrong on so many counts. How does a Christian support abortion and infanticide? What church does this come from, never mind I forgot, Rev Wright.

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15MillCreeked(24 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

Many, many Christians, both politicians and everyday folks, support a woman's right to make choices about her own reproductive life including ending an unwanted pregnancy so your argument is illogical and motivated by anger.

In fact, a majority of Americans support a woman's right to choose. Choice is the cornerstone of individual freedom and privacy and a woman's right to choose is her own private free choice for her own body and life. You want politics to stay our of your business? Try being a woman.

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16paulrooah(7 comments)posted 7 years, 9 months ago

MillCreeked, Andersonathan:

Please understand that the Pro-Life legislators cannot stop abortion. How many years have they tried?! And even if laws could be passed, abortion will continue until you can change the minds of the women actually making that heart-wrenching decision.

On election day, please also be careful not to buy into the the free market, personal responsibility dogma that has dominated the Bush administration over the past eight years. Public policy based on that dogma has allowed the economically strong to unfairly prey on the economically weak, forcing more and more good people into financial dire straits. These policies, by hurting the lower and middle classes, are actually driving more poor women to opt for abortions. Private and public programs to explain options to young women, and programs to provide financial and emotional support if they decide not to abort, are a better solution. Bringing more fairness to the American economy, and providing some level of financial safety for the weakest among us would save unborn lives.

If either of you are sincerely concerned about this important moral issue, I encourage you to seek out and support organizations like Heartbeat International (outside of Columbus), Catholic Charities (everywhere) or Hannah's Home (Mentor, OH). Your donations of time and money to these organizations will go a lot farther to stop abortions than voting for the typical "pro-life" candidate on election day.

But regardless of how you vote, and regardless of who gets elected, I encourage both of you take a personal responsibility to do something about this problem after election day. You can help.

Paul Rooah

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17DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago


This is the only site any of you partisan followers need to look at. Now make sure you read nice and slow and see how actual facts bring everything into perspective. You will feel a slight pain in your forehead, this is the partisan mantle beginning to crumble around your corrupted brains. You will feel a strong desire to turn on the television or radio and find an episode of Letterman, O'Reilly, Olberman, The View, Limbaugh, The Daily Show, etc. to make you feel smart again. Resist this.
Realize that you are merely a pawn and you can start the long journey back to adulthood. When you arrive, it will be very sobering, and that is why many of you will not be able to stay there. If this occurs remain calm and go back to believing in the system. We never learned anything from history anyway.

Vote YES on Issue 69

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18valleyred(1103 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

DoctorGonzo. It is run by liberals...

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19jfuze0905(82 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

Let's talk tax plans:

Read the article located at http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/Upload...

and then make an informed decision...interesting to note are Tables 7 and 8 where there is a breakdown of the income tax structure by both candidates.

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20valleyred(1103 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

Bottom line is this. The tax cuts are going to be tax increases under Obama.

In one week listen to how quickly his plan has changed.
1 week ago: Rich was $250,000
During Obamercial: Rich was $200,000
During Biden Interview: Rich was $150,000
During Governor Richardson Interview: Rich was $125,000.
At that rate, we'll be at $42,000 in no time!

This is what I change you can NOT believe in.

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21JeffLebowski(953 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

*If the vote is this close in Mahoning County election day...*

Less than 800 votes is hardly a representative sampling, especially when you consider the aging population of the area -- many likely voters in the valley aren't likely to be on the Internet.

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22DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

Lady of the Valley, Red?

I do not give a good crap in my shorts if smurfs are running the website. The FACTS are presented and they depict elementary lies by both sides. I fully expect the administrators of that website to vote on Tuesday, and they may be voting for the annointed one, but that does not mean they are not presenting the facts to the public.
There are several issues that sound distorted when the annointed one and the maverick present them, and now I know why.
In any event, I am a liberal on some issues myself and a red on others, the bottom line is that I am independent of the partisan facade that is cast upon my eyes everyday by the weak and misguided.
If you believe that strongly in one side or the other, you have no standing in the coming decades. Prepare.

Vote YES on Issue 69.

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23DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

We can share the women, we can share the wine. We can share what we got of yours cause we done shared all of mine.

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24Nonsocialist(710 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

When you vote, remember the Democrats have called you rednecks (Murtha) and rascists (Hagan), and people who cling to their bibles and guns (Obama). It's time to send these Democrats home and learn some respect for us!


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25cambridge(4150 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

Well at least your smart enough to know they were talking you.

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26borylie(951 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

Folks, somethings are easy to figure out. If you need the government to take care of you, vote Obama. If your capable of taking care of yourself, vote McCain. The more people the government can take care of, the more dependent these people become thus expanding the Democrats voting base. So what are you, a person that needs help or capable of creating your own success in life?

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27cambridge(4150 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

Taxpayers dollars should be spent on the health, education and welfare of the taxpayer.

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28jneill7854(6 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

It is all of the posts of hate that have prompted Obama supporters like me to donate whatever we could to his campaign. It is all of the small donations pooled together that have led us to where we are today. The Obama campaign has outspent, outmanned and out maneuvered the McCain campaign despite all of the hate messages we have all tolerated.

McCain's campaign has been a new message a day. Unfortunately, his ideas are just a continuation of Bush's failed policies, many of which he used to oppose. He has shown extremely poor judgment with his campaigns tone and demeanor and now it has played out to where we are today.

Now is time for the Middle Class citizens to confidently take matters into their own hands and decide the future of our country based on hope, tolerance, diversity, moderation and above all respecting the values and principles of ALL of the US citizens and avoid the hate, divisions, arrogance, and extremism that have been emitted in all of these blogs. Now is the time!

Obama/Biden 2008

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29DoctorGonzo(728 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

Now is also the time to embrace a grammar that does not give the reader a headache. A grammar that depicts at least a high school education and would never give the impression of ignorance and menial wage earning.
Now is the time to push for the capitalization of the term Middle Class as if it refers to a deity, country, or other proper noun. It is only through this change that everything will be allright.
Let us also believe that, somehow, the 50% of people who support Obama all donated what they could and this miraculously grew into the largest amount spent on a campaign in our history. It is true that the Middle Class was able to reach these figures without donations from special interests, corporations, and lobbyist groups, like every other candidate received who has ever run for president since 1900.

Here's a pretty logical prediction, no matter who wins tomorrow. It's 2012. Unemployment is at double digit percentages, the country has seen a further molding into a two class system through tenets of socialism, there are still blind, ignorant partisan people everywhere who really believe they support the better party, and I am still wondering what planet I am on.

Of course, I genuinely hope I am wrong and the winner tomorow (Obama) leads us back to being America, but based on the last two decades of leadership in this country, I cannot fathom that happening however. I hope I am proven wrong.

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30s_black(40 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

I'd just like to see an understanding of the difference between "your" and "you're." One means "you are." Figure it out.

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31Stan(9923 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago



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32cheli(2 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago

I'm having one of the best days of my life. I am getting ready to vote for Barack Obama for president of the United States of America.

No hater can rain on this lovely fall day when my country makes a significant step forward in electing an African-American man president.

I'm not black. I was a little white girl watching Martin Luther King on the news over 40 years ago, wanting the country he was talking about . . . where we judge each other fairly. And now, after years of struggle, the day is suddenly here, sooner than expected.

I awoke early this morning to a voice whispering in my ear "what happens to a dream deferred?" I smiled and thought . . . sometimes it comes true.

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33Stan(9923 comments)posted 7 years, 8 months ago


"where we judge each other fairly. "

I judge politicians on the basis of performance. I don't judge on the basis of race,just performance. Past performance is a good indicator of future performance. Now what is your basis for choosing Obama as your leader?


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