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All you need to know to answer this question is read the excerpt in the "Effect" article in the March 4, 2008 Vindy by Chicago Tribune reporter Jim Tankersley. He says:"The area is flush with the voters (the Democratic presidential candidates) need: working class, lower class, lower-educated people." Yet,the people of the Mahoning Valley vigorously support democrats. Not only are you lower-educated (stupid), but you also have no pride.
As reported by the Fox News Channel and the Politico.com,
"Two Ohio Democrats tell The Politico newspaper that superdelegates in the state are banding together to get what they want — withholding their endorsements from Obama and Clinton until they receive what is called a concrete proposal to protect American jobs.
The stance is the first evidence of superdelegates joining forces to use their leverage in exchange for political favors. All but one of Ohio's congressional Democrats remain uncommitted — even though the state voted solidly for Clinton Tuesday.
A spokesman for Congressman Tim Ryan says the group sent a letter to both candidates last week outlining their views about the economy. But he denies there is any collusion to withhold votes."
Could it be the seeds of Youngstown's Renaissance? Could it be that the Mahoning Valley's staunch loyalty to the Democratic Party will finally be repaid?
Youngstown's turn is long overdue. No other town is more worthy of the pork flying out of Washington. Imagine the possiblities...a revitalized Downtown that attracts shoppers and diners, a gas-light district, a waterfront of condos and shops.
I encourage everyone to contact the offices of both candidates and express your support of the Superdelegates ambition to secure promises of funding for your hometown.
Borylie you must be drinking Bush Koolaid.
rmzrez Thank you for proving my point. I didn't write my quote, the Chicago Tribune reporter did. You should also take a lttle sip of Bush Koolaid,and take a look from the other side. Don't stick your head up anybody's butt, look for the person or party that tends to align themselves with your goals,morals,ethics, and principles. I like to ask this question of democrats (I presume you're a democrat): Why are you a democrat? You're not allowed to mention President Bush. Just give me an educated resaon, no rant. Put some real thought into your answer. BTW,I'm a conservative first and foremost, thus I find myself more closely aligned with republicans.
To borylie I also call myself a Conservative and have been for a long time . But if you think supporting someone (thing) like Bush is good, it just shows how low we have come in this country. I sure hope something will open your eyes and make you an AMERICA again.I do not see how you can use words like morals,ethics and Principles in the suport of a thing like Bush . He is what the Republicans have become and you know this is true.
This whole debate is about democrats and what the primaries did for the Mahoning Valley. Typically you have brought President Bush into this which I asked you not to do, but I knew you were going to do. You know very little of what's going on and as most of the un-educated do, you bash Bush based on the Bush bashing that's been going on for 7 yrs. You have no idea how to present a debate other then to be negative. As Mrs. Clinton does,all she can do is blame President Bush and others,go negative on Sen. Obama and take no responsibility for anything. She promised upstate N.Y. and the people in the Buffalo N.Y. area 200,000 jobs if they would elect her senator in 2000. A couple of months ago while campaigning in N.Y she was asked what happened to that promise, she of course blamed it on President Bush. Two weeks ago in the Cleveland debate, Tim Russert asked her about the same promise of the 200,000 jobs to upstate N.Y., and also pointed out that they've actually lost 30,000 jobs, she said that's because she thought Al Gore was going to be president. So,she promised these people something based on something she had no control over. She should of promised N.Y. 200,000 jobs if Al Gore is elected president. She makes the same promises her husband did to the Mahoning Valley in 1992 and in 1996, and now you and the rest of the un-informed, blame Bush crowd believe her? And I drink Koolaid? If you truly are a conservative, President Bush should have nothing to do with your picking a president based on your own ideals. Since Sen. Obama and Mrs. Clinton are two of the most liberal members of congress, then obviously you'll vote for Sen. McCain.
(Sorry I misspelled reason in my previous post)
I may !!!! but you need to know that Bush and the things he has done to America the world and the Republican party will make it almost impossible.It is people with mind sets like yours is why we are in this mess. They (all bush's thug) should be in jail at the best . YOU know this is true . This thug and his party need bashing
I don't know if you're new to the dynamics of Youngstown politics, but it's fascinating. As you note, the region is and has been for decades devotely loyal to the Democratic Party. What is amazing is that the loyalty was unaffected by President Carter's (D-Ga)leaving Youngstown for dead after Black Monday in 1977. The city is ranked 14th of all US cities in crime under the Dem local leadership, and has been in a state of continuous decay. Many of the local Democratic leadership is in jail. NAFTA was signed by the last Democratic President, which they admit contributed to local job loss.
Despite it all, the love for their Party remains strong. So the result is that the Dems take them for granted and the Republicans write them off. When you even mention anything Republican, you get the usual Hate rhetoric.
For someone who loves their homeland and is not brainwashed, it is frustrating. All I can say is if they stick with the Dems, they can only expect more of the same (neglect).
Nonsocialist, I just responded to your post a little while ago, but it's not appearing on this page. Going to send this post to see if this site is still accepting posts.
The American public acts like quarter of a billion blind mice, mutant mice who circle around the purring candidates every election and deny that these are just cats. "Doesn't feel like a cat to me - maybe some kind of muskrat." "No ,those aren't claws. I think they are cufflinks." It's pathetic!(Hal Crowther, 'Unarmed and Dangerous')
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