Dumbest question I have ever seen on this website, especially considering the city it represents. Stupid, stupid writers.
another sad day for sanity
Hoodie criminals will now have to be more careful of who and where they disrespect with their dangerously stupid tactics. They need to be shown they do not have exclusive rights to firearms. The U.S. Supreme Court has leveled the playing field by insisting that citizens have the legal right to keep and bear arms to protect themselves and their families, just as our Constitution promises. Score one for America.
I agree. Score one for Law abiding citizens.
Well, get ready for more gun violence. Domestic disputes that turn into killings. Kids playing with guns that discharge and kill. Road rage into murder. Yup, we are sure going to be safer!
Apollo, do you honestly believe that the nation's inventory of weapons will change as a result of this decision; as if folks didn't have them already? What scares me most is the lack of ethical political behavior locally and the media's lack of interest and scrutiny in it unless the revelations have to do with "sex."
Tugboat, isn't political ethics an oxymoron? The Youngstown area doesn't have much in the way of investigative reporting anymore. Plus they only report what sells. If the people are more concerned with "sex", then that is what the "journalist" report.
As for guns, do I think the inventory will increase with the courts decision? Yes, but only minimally. However, the more guns a society carries, the more violence that the society experiences. The numbers don't lie. America has the most gun violence of all the civilized countries. It can and will go up with each gun that gets populated into society. Very few guns will be used to deter criminals. Most will be used in frightfully inappropriate ways. Road rage, domestic disputes, showing off the gun like happened in Poland where the girl was killed accidentally. As long as we are OK with the ancillary killings, then for the one or two times a year that a criminal gets killed or detered is worth it? I don't happen to think so and most of the evidence supports my contention.
About time the Supreme Court stands up for the peoples constitutional rights. Kids playing with guns - blame the parents for not being responsible; Road rage - blame the physco who has anger control issues; domestic violence - blame the abuser who could also use his fists,a knife, or anything else availble...not just a gun. The problem is not with responsible gun owners, it is with the criminals, dope dealers, etc. running the streets. I work in Youngstown at a company on Market St and outside daily and you can know which houses are the crack houses, the abandon houses that the "users" go into, see the prostitutes walking & being picked up and see 'deals' happen right in the middle of the street. Where are the police? Does no one else no this is going on? Even when the OSP was doing their big sweep of Market & side sweeps, not once was anything done about the activity that happens on the side street next to where I work. Again, lets blame the criminals, not the responsible gun owners. If we had a grasp on drugs and prostitution, we would have a grasp on the illegal weapons on the street.
What are they going to do take all our Constitutional Rights away from us?We should have the right to bear arms to protect ourself and our families.I owned one and it is put up i dont keep it out hanging around for anyone to pick up.I do agree that there is alot of violence on the street and in the world but taken guns away is not going to stop it,You can kill someone with a pencil,i know i have seen it in the facility i worked at.I still believe we have the right to bear arms.........
To the 50 or so people who answered "NO" to this question:You are beyond help as far as I am concerned. You are living in a fantasy world or you watch too much of that show on TV with Whoopi Goldberg, Morning Yak I think. Anyway if you think for one second the element in this country would somehow cease to inflict pain and suffering with gun bans in place then you should move to CA and follow the "celebrties" around and take their picture because you stopped living already. You are the sect of society that will ultimately lead to the US being knocked off as number 1. You refuse to pay attention to history and you have never seen what goes on except through CNN, Fox, or The Daily Show. You have never been in a situation where the right to have a weapon would be useful. That's ok, when it is going down here on our soil, or you get into a situation where you need real help, you will beg someone else for it and they will help because they can. Then you can go back to living in your fantasy world. And don't post anything about Europe and the low crime rate without guns. THIS IS NOT EUROPE. There is a vastly different environment here. Your logic is skewed.
Hey Apollo, there is nothing different than was two weeks ago. The same people have the same guns. What planet are you on??? Why don't you join the military and get a life!!!! I can just imagine you if we are suddenly invaded by the terrorists. You will be pathetically crying to your neighbors to protect your sorry ass. God, this is so stupid!!!!!!! Guess where I am, you jerk!!!!!
Apollo, are you sure you are familiar with Youngstown? Hello........the only way this city will ever get some semblance of order it for the average Joe to protect himself from the twisted hat, underwear flashing idiots who have NO respect for human life, not even yours. I say we should hold a parade and a ceremony to honor the first citizen of this town who exercises this right.
Of more significance to the citizens of Ohio is the fact that the Governor recently signed a bill that states that the State of Ohio will follow the concepts of the "Castle Doctrine" which is also followed in one form or another by at least 15 other states. A typical example of what the Castle Doctine means is taken from the verbage in Kentucky's statute.
Quote: "A person may use deadly force against any individual who unlawfully and forcibly enters that persons dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle. The attacker does not even have to employ deadly force hinself to legitimize the use of deadly force by the defender. The defender is presumed to be acting lawfully if he is in any of the three areas mentioned above. When a defender is in any other area that he has a right to be (such as a shopping mall) he may meet force with force if threatened with an attack." I am pretty sure that would also include being in the home of a friend!
Ohio also has reciprocy agreements with at least eighteen other states in respect to honoring their (CWP)"concealed weapons permits"
To the people that believe that this statute will lead to more violence, I believe research will show that law abiding citizens, especially those of us that have taken the time to get a CWP are not the ones commiting the crimes. I was required to be finger printed and a photo ID taken as part of the background check conducted before I was granted a permit in another state. If I had less than honorable intentions would I have bothered to make it real easy to identify me.
I studied the Ohio law to be sure of what I could legally carry and how it must be carried before coming into the state since most all reciprocy agreements have some limitations.
Last but not least, I do believe that having a weapon in the home demands responsibility by the gun owner to insure that it is secured. Each person must determine whether a locked case, trigger lock or whatever is necessary to protect other family members or visitors. Remember, kids are curious!!!
Logic and reasoning are abundant in your post redvert. I appreciate it. You are in the minority on this website, however, with intelligent posts like that.
Kids are curious, parents are careless, Pay ATTENTION HERE.
Concerning the article that talks about suicide being the result of half of deaths by firearm,should we maybe consider the possibility that the problem is the emotional state of the suicidal victim and not the laws of gun control. I am not suicidal and therefore would still like to protect myself when needed. Currently I am not a gun owner. I just believe that banning the ownership of a gun would keep the bad guys with guns and the good guys in pretty bad shape. In other words, let freedom ring. And that includes freedom to bear arms.
My paranoid post references the fact that several countries would love to attack us here on our soil, which may or may not be over the top and parnoid. I just believe, and history can prove, that each empire must fall and at some point the battle must be waged on that empire's soil. But that is purely hypothetical and may warrant a "paranoid" moniker. The other reference was to the several times I have had a gun pulled on me in Youngstown and the one time I was shot at by gang members in a completely random act. These situations were quite real and not an effect of a paranoid mind. I wish I had a weapon on me then, wouldn't you, or would you just offer a hug to those people who are brandishing their weapon at you? When you have never experienced reality, you cannot relate.
Someone has to protect us!?! Dont they?? They have the police force spread so thin they cant be everywhere. And I will protect what is mine. So if anyone decides to break in, first they will have to get past the 2 large dogs, and if that happens, then they will be shot!
My guess Doctor Gonzo is that if you had a gun on you the time you were shot, you'd now be gone since the time to pull the gun probably would have been enough time for the perp to shoot more than once.
Also, most of us will never face having a gun pulled on us.
But, most of us will witness innocents being shot by accident or domestic violence because of the proliferation of guns.
Why does nobody ever address the fact that Western Europe is practically gun free and has very little gun violence while America is loaded with guns (300 million estimate) and the most violent (gun related) in the industrialized world?
In the year 2000, the United States had 10,800 gun related homicides. The European union had 1260 and Japan had 22.
A good read.
Do you agree with the 5 right wing extremist nutcases who think a city with a huge murder problem can't regulate handguns?
Supreme Court justices have managed to uphold the Second Amendment for two centuries without holding that it creates an indvividual right. This decision will create a cascade of litigation seeking to overturn reasonable gun laws. And whoever wrote this question doesn't understand the subleties here -- we are not talking about overturning some "liberal" court decision against gun owners.
First of all I never said I was shot, I said I was shot at and had guns pulled on me. Very large difference. But I did not expect certain people to read the post very clearly, and I figured they would only see what they wanted to see. It is a common symptom of the ignorant. Secondly, history can prove that empires fall, but to say that we will would still be hypothetical. Rome, China, Greece, etc. all fell and the collapse all saw battle on their soil. However, if I were to say the US will fall and there will be battles here it would be hypothetical. Will the sun be in the sky tomorrow, history tells us yes, but it is still hypothetical to say it will be.
Anyway, thanks for making me think today.
I really don't think there are 5 right wing nutcases on the supreme court, I really don't think anyone with the qualifications to sit on the highest court is a nutcase.
Go buy a Cobalt.
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