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East Side residents say they’re ignored

Published: Wed, March 12, 2014 @ 12:05 a.m.

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By David Skolnick



East Side residents at a meeting to discuss a citywide plan say their part of Youngstown is often ignored.

“We need more attention on the East Side,” said Cynthia Davis, an East Side resident. “Areas elsewhere in the city are getting attention. We need help on the East Side. We have a lot of residents who care about their homes and their neighborhoods, but there’s only so much we can do.”

It was a familiar theme at Tuesday’s meeting at Price Memorial African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church on Dryden Avenue. About 50 people attended to hear an overview of research done by the Youngstown Neighborhood Development Corp., the city’s planning agency.

YNDC is having public meetings throughout the city to obtain input on its “Neighborhood Conditions Report.”

This was the first meeting on the East Side, and YNDC’s fourth of nine such gatherings throughout the city.

The meetings are to determine priorities for stabilizing and developing neighborhoods using “the city’s limited resources to make improvements,” said Tom Hetrick, a YNDC neighborhood planner.

“The city doesn’t have a lot of money to fix the problems,” he said.

Some at the meeting were quite skeptical that a finished plan from YNDC will do anything.

“Personally, all of this is for naught,” said the Rev. Lawrence Underwood, an East Side resident. “They’re wasting their time and money. Until we focus on education, we can’t do anything about housing and employment. We’re going at it in the wrong manner. Education is the key. It’s the way to improve employment. Without education, no business is going to want to come here and open up.”

But others were optimistic.

Warren Harrell of the East Side said there is a lot of vacant land on that side of the city, but there are also stable families residing there.

“We need to start selling the area as a positive place,” he said. “There is hope.”

Despite huge pockets of abandonment on the city’s East Side, Hetrick said population there has increased over the past 20 years.

But the main reason for that, he said, is the East Side is the home to two prisons and prisoners count in U.S. Census population counts.

The East Side also has the lowest population density of any part of the city, Hetrick said. That means there’s a lot of space with fewer people.

YNDC pointed out positives on the East Side including the Lincoln Knolls Plaza, the McGuffey Centre, East High School, churches and city parks. Among its drawbacks, according to YNDC, are vacant houses, vacant businesses, tax delinquency, poverty, high unemployment and the dumping of debris.


1L0L(660 comments)posted 6 months, 1 week ago

Solution. Staff the jail including the misdemeanor jail so it can be filled to full capacity. If you screw up then its straight to jail. Make the justice system in this area be an actual deterant.
And I also agree with Rev. Lawrence. The people need educated to be able to make something of themselves and see that dealing dope isnt a life long career. It also starts at home. Women stop having 5 kids with 5 different "baby daddies" just to get a welfare check. Close your legs or use protection. These kids are growing up in a home either without a father or people who obviously dont care about them to let them go down the wrong path.

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2UticaShale(854 comments)posted 6 months, 1 week ago


Work Camps and Orphanages

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3UticaShale(854 comments)posted 6 months, 1 week ago

Dog, typical leftist response you open with name calling.

Here's an intelligent question, tell us a better way other than what your type wasted all this money on?

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4DwightK(1256 comments)posted 6 months, 1 week ago

Does Youngstown still need an east side? Looking at the low population and the high cost of municipal services, maybe it's time to abandon the east side back to nature. Residents already seem to be abandoning it given how many vacant structures there are.

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5rickking123(292 comments)posted 6 months, 1 week ago

I'll post my message again since I don't see it.
The Lincoln Knolls Plaza is but a shell of the place it used to be.

And you won't fix education until you fix the family.

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6Ianacek(909 comments)posted 6 months, 1 week ago

The closely settled subdivision model unraveled after the local steelworks closed & jobs lost. Its now very car dependant and doesn't suit small lot sizes .Lower density is the answer . It would however , be very attractive to homeowners & renters wanting larger lots for lifestyle .
There's a market based solution , which is to bring all the tax delinquent & land bank owned lots and houses on a block to market at once & actively promote these .
The City & other agencies charged with Youngstown planning have given the wishes of current residents too much weight in planning decisions . This is an ever reducing number , due to death and abandonment . If properties can cycle quickly into new hands , land values can be maintained & properties rehabbed , "up and down" duplexes returned to single family , amalgamated or demolished according to market need - at private expense.
Some of this has happened despite planning policies , but its not keeping up with abandonment in most of the city. e.g. just look at properties where the side lot has been acquired and fenced off , compared with their neighbors - the side lot makes "lifestyle" possible - you see landscaping , decks , swingsets , barbecue areas , carparks , pools etc . in these enlarged lots that are not possible on the tiny butterbox sites . All this is not new thinking . Other cities are leaving Youngstown neighborhoods in the dust in reinventing old neighborhoods in the race for repopulation .
btw If 123goz doesn't know what the East Side looks like , who not use Google Streetview ?.

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7UticaShale(854 comments)posted 6 months, 1 week ago

As you can see here, Dog is one that needs to be evicted from the Vindy, or make him use his most likely insignificant name.

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8danikytn(248 comments)posted 6 months, 1 week ago

I live on the East side, and I love it here. Granted, im over by the hubbard line, but still. Its quiet, no problems. People maintain their homes very nicely here, no riffraff or people wandering around aimlessly, as it was on the south side. Nice new school buildings. The Lincoln Knolls plaza is almost fully occupied, its actually gotten a lot nicer than it used to be. The flea market is a wonderful place to go during the summer. I enjoy living in a spot where I have nice vigilant neighbors who keep up their houses, and yard. I am very happy here, and am very glad I left the south side. Point is, if you don't live in a spot, you cant really know about what goes on. Making broad assumptions about an entire side of town based on what you see in the news is a foolhardy practice. I love that I live out in the boonies of the YO...No complaints.

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9UticaShale(854 comments)posted 6 months, 1 week ago

@Dan , as houses are abandoned every year, the wilderness returns. People are the problem, not the land, they continue to migrate to denser areas and that is good for the eastside.

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