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Downtown tenants complain about live bands at Party on Plaza

Youngstown
Published: 6/26/14 @ 12:04


Police chief questions validity of complaint

By David Skolnick

skolnick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Residents at a downtown high-rise housing complex are complaining about the volume of live music at the nearby Party on the Plaza.

A petition signed by 38 residents at International Towers, a low-income apartment complex at 25 Market St., given to the police department and The Vindicator, asks that the city’s noise ordinance be enforced, particularly for Party on the Plaza events that occur twice a month during the summer.

But Police Chief Robin Lees questions the validity of the complaint.

“I have information that it’s an outgrowth of loud TV and stereo problems in the building,” he said. “Some tenants attached the Party on the Plaza to that noise issue. Party on the Plaza has been going on for years without any complaint from International Towers” residents.

Tenants say the chief is wrong.

Bobbie Desch, who signed the petition, said she’s had one issue with a loud television or stereo at International Towers in the six years she’s lived there.

“I dread Party on the Plaza; it drives me nuts,” she said. “They blast music too loud. I hate every minute of it during the summer. It keeps people up. It’s not about loud TVs and stereos. Party on the Plaza gets ridiculous.”

Mark Murphy, another International Towers resident who signed the petition, said, “Sleeping at night is tough” when there’s a Party on the Plaza event. “The noise is too loud. The noise is really bad, and it’s not related to loud TVs and stereos.”

The petition reads, in part: “The Party on the Plaza events utilizes bands who amplify their sound. These events create loud and/or offensive noise that disturb or keep me awake as I reside in the immediate vicinity. The music played at these events results in loud and excessive noise which jeopardizes my health, welfare and degrades the quality of my life.”

The petition wants the city to enforce an ordinance that prohibits excessive noise after 11 p.m.

City law prohibits loud noise after 11 p.m. that disturbs those living within 500 feet of “any building used as a private residence, apartment house or rooming house.”

Police enforced it last year after receiving complaints from downtown residents about outdoor concerts that played after 11 p.m.

Lees said the event has an assemblage permit that allows it to operate outside the noise ordinance.

Organizers of the event, sponsored by Warehouse 50, a bar and restaurant, were told to reduce the band noise after 11 p.m., and will do so, Lees said.

“We are in compliance and Party on the Plaza will go on as it has for the past 20 years,” said Scott Austalosh, who books bands and organizes the event.

“We agreed with the police chief to turn down the volume at 11 p.m.”

The next event is this Friday.

The police lieutenant in charge during the June 6 Party on the Plaza shut it down shortly after 11 p.m. because of the noise.

The officer mistakenly enforced the noise ordinance rather than follow the law related to assemblage permits, Lees said.

Mayor John A. McNally said, “We won’t keep the entire area awake, but we want to provide entertainment and opportunities for people to enjoy downtown.”

“What is the mayor and the police chief going to do about it? Nothing,” Desch said. “They’re just kind of blowing it off.”


Comments


Posted by westsiderscare (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 6:45 a.m.

This is one of the down falls by living in the city. That was choice the tennants of International Towers made when they took up residency, Yes your dollars contribute to the city of Youngstown, but this event, Party on the Plaza brings in a huge amount of money for all the businesses in this town. Sorry for your inconvience twice a month, but it would be a big mistake taking this venue out of the city. I would be more worried about International Towers being torn down and turned into a more profitable entity...surprised it hasn't happened or talked about.


Posted by tired2 (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 6:56 a.m.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/jun/12...

“Some of these [residents] don’t have the mental capacity to understand what they’re signing,” Hubbard said, “and they’re scared of being evicted, so they just sign.”

This article about another issue implies many are made to sign yet they freely signed a petition in 2014?


Posted by HeMyPO (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 8:34 a.m.

Low Income Housing? My tax dollars are paying for these people to live in these complexes.. They need to Zip their lips & enjoy the fact that Youngstown is doing something GOOD!!!!


Posted by southsidedave (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 8:34 a.m.

maybe have the party in the Southern Park Mall parking lot and keep residents awake in Boardman


Posted by ytownsteelman (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 8:46 a.m.

This problem is only going to get worse as downtown become more of a residential area. The new hotel in the Stambaugh Building will exacerbate the problem with more people wanting to actually sleep at night. 11 pm is a reasonable time to turn off the loud music. These parties run all day; they don't need to run all night as well. I don't think that the city should give an assemblage permit that allows loud music after 11pm, something that definitely benefits one group at the expense of another.


Posted by NBees (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 10:07 a.m.

Only ye 22% of International Tower residents signed the petition - mostly old folks of sound mind who start their days early, like 4am. I understand their perspective as the music is loud enough to drown out their TV sets, but it is not every day and a LOT of residents were not happy about that petition - they ENJOY Party on the Plaza music. It is one of the "perks" that new tenants are told about before they move in. Some like it... some don't.

I think someone should write up a variance to city ordinance 509.10(11) and put it up for a vote - let all downtown residents vote on allowing outdoor music to play past 11 pm on Friday or Saturday nights. Even if it is just a vote to let city hall know what the majority of residents want.

Suggesting they should be more worried about the building being torn down comes off as trying to scare old veterans and great grannies out of exercising their constitutional rights.

And don't worry about your tax dollars - only taxes from liberal Democrats fund domestic programs like subsidizing housing for low income elderly and disabled persons. Taxes from right wing Republicans is earmarked for congressional toilet paper, foreign made ammunition, and rebuilding OTHER countries after we bomb them.


Posted by bobgat21 (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 10:37 a.m.

Does anybody know who owns this bar?


Posted by Erplane (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 5:32 p.m.

First, why dont they move the stage and the speakers so that the sound is going away from the residential. That will help a little. Also, can they install sound walls behind the stage? Also, have a 10:30 cutoff for the outdoor stage, and the next act goes indoors at Warehouse 50. Not rocket science to make some small changes that will help a bit.


Posted by pgurney (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 6:58 p.m.

I'm agreeing with Ytownsteelman here:

"This problem is only going to get worse as downtown become more of a residential area. The new hotel in the Stambaugh Building will exacerbate the problem with more people wanting to actually sleep at night. 11 pm is a reasonable time to turn off the loud music. These parties run all day; they don't need to run all night as well. I don't think that the city should give an assemblage permit that allows loud music after 11pm, something that definitely benefits one group at the expense of another"

If the powers-that-be want to keep redeveloping downtown buildings into residential units, and hotels, the problem WILL get worse. And favoring one group of people over another is worse still, I don't care whose tax dollars "pay" for their residence.


Posted by CountryGirl51 (anonymous) on June 26, 2014 at 8:59 p.m.

The International Towers is run by HUD, they pay a percentage of their income to live there. HUD is govt owned. These people have just as much right to peace after 11 pm as anyone else living in the city. I dont think there should be any exceptions to the rules. And like others say, there will be more and more people moving into the city, so then what ? Party all day i say and turn the music off at 11pm.