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EPA seeks to cut power plant carbon by 30 percent

Published: Mon, June 2, 2014 @ 8:40 a.m.

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Environmental Protection Agency today will roll out a plan to cut carbon dioxide emissions from power plants by 30 percent by 2030, setting the first national limits on the chief gas linked to global warming. The rule, expected to be final next year, is a centerpiece of President Barack Obama's plans to reduce the pollution linked to global warming, a step that the administration hopes will get other countries to act when negotiations on a new international treaty resume next year.


1redeye1(5610 comments)posted 2 years ago

Sounds like another Obammy rule to cause job losses. This guy is truly out to ruin the United States

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2tnmartin(518 comments)posted 2 years ago

perhaps I was snoozing and missed the part about the CONGRESS taking up the matter and passing through both houses the LEGISLATION to be sent to the President for assent or veto. Did I miss that part?
Someone needs to point out to me the part of the Constitution that permits the Chief Executive or his subordinates to rule by decree. I can't seem to find it in there, not anywhere.
This is bovine aromatic organic fertilizer. Free people, free citizens in a free land, are not to be ruled by anonymous unelected tinpot dictator types. Whether in an alphabet agency or the White House.
Some people need to be fired.

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3tnmartin(518 comments)posted 2 years ago

and the fools that voted for Obumble willfully ignored his campaign promise that 'electricity prices will necessarily skyrocket". He said that, he really did. And a raft of idiots voted for him anyway, mesmerized by, well, what was it exactly?. If you wanted to pay more, have at it. The rest of us were not and are not in favor, we knew better.
Remember this when the cold winds come and you sit, shivering in the dark, gnawing a crust of bread from the day-old bakery. And, as always, you'll blame the Republicans, or far-off CEO's or some nameless "they". The blame is in your mirror.

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4James_S(268 comments)posted 2 years ago

The EPA was a separate gov't agency at its inception in the 70's under Nixon. It was during Bush 2's administration, I believe, that the EPA became part of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government.
Obama is just following his masters' orders. Obama and the rest of the USA's "politicians".

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5commyliberal(94 comments)posted 2 years ago

The Robert's Court (Very Conservative IMHO) upheld EPA's jurisdiction to rule on emissions of power plants already. This move by Obama is a way forward in efforts to reduce CO2 emissions. Most utilities have already retired their most inefficient plants in anticipation to this rule. The big loser will be coal industry.

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6300(573 comments)posted 2 years ago

Tnmartin, look up Youngstown Sheet and Tube v Sawyer. Plus, it's a delegated power that's been used since Washington.

Also, don't try to be a constitutional expert when you likely didn't even graduate from college, much less law school.

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7tnmartin(518 comments)posted 2 years ago

first of all, don't wave SCOTUS at us. SCOTUS also gave us Dredd Scott, Roe, and Kelo and MANY other egregiously wrong rulings in order to conform to the personal prejudices of the clowns squatting on the bench.
second, agencies have been around a long time. But in general, it has been understood that their role was very definitely a subservient and functional one. We have, for example, persons whose job it may be to receive and file petitions for a lawsuit, for example, but the clerk at the courthouse does not decide the case and the clerk's opinions are of no more weight than anyone else's is.
What has been happening with increasing frequency is that these alphabet agencies are in fact making policy. That is a very definite difference, and one that should trouble all of us. That is a role limited by the Constitution, the supreme law of the nation. It is not a secret, save to those who refuse to see, that in many cases the real powers in these agencies are not really subject matter experts, but instead are crusaders bent on using the levers of government power to achieve a personally desired result or one brought about by fallacious groupthink. The crackpots at EPA are just one example of that, though many more might be found in places like DOJ, Dept of Ed., Dept of Energy, etc. As an aside, several of these agencies should not even exist at the Federal level: there is no constitutional justification for them at all. We see, for example, that some crackpots at Dept of Ag have been handed millions of dollars in order to mount what are in fact propaganda efforts to control YOUR eating habits.
If this latest program by EPA is so all-fired important, then let us enact it by constitutional means, by legislation openly debated and openly voted in. Not by faceless and unaccountable appratachiks behind closed doors.
Most importantly, we need to keep the distinction between law and regulation.
BTW, no, I'm not an attorney-in-fact. Have done some work around them, but my degree is in Mechanical Engineering from YSU. I've seen, up close, the machinations of too many of these overpaid tinpots.

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