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Reagan would cringe to see moral and political downfall of the US



Published: Thu, July 17, 2014 @ 12:00 a.m.

Reagan would cringe to see moral and political downfall of the US

“If we ever forget we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”

— Ronald Reagan

I wonder what the Great Communicator is thinking these days when he looks down and sees what is happening to the country he so dearly loved. Could he possibly comprehend the dramatic change that has taken place in our society since the days he was with us? He must be saddened to see that some are doing everything in their power to remove all traces of God from our schools and any public gatherings.

To them who would impose their views contrary to those who created this and the Bill of Rights, I should remind you the framers who created the near flawless government we have enjoyed for the past two centuries were men who believed in God. They knew in order to bring forth a government that guaranteed individual freedom and the dignity of its people, they would need spiritual guidance. Their spiritual guidance became the foundation of the greatest government on the planet.

It is sad indeed there are those who are not satisfied with a government that has served the people so well and those who complain we should do more to share the wealth.

A healthy capitalistic system with competent leadership is the only formula that will give the country the chance to restore a healthy economy and regain our self- respect from the rest of the world. To those who would abandon capitalism for a socialistic type of government I ask, “Where have you been these last years?”

Haven’t we seen the result of a bloated government? A so-called government that has done nothing but sit on their butts and spend billions of dollars we do not have.

They apparently have totally discarded the danger of the $17 trillion deficit hovering over our heads. This administration just continues to borrow and print money with little or no regard of the consequences.

As to our current leader: “A Prince whose character is just marked by every act that may define a Tyrant is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.” That quote is taken directly from this country’s Declaration of Independence.

Leon J. White, Columbiana


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1steivo(540 comments)posted 3 months ago

Great letter Leon. Can you believe that there are some on this board who actually blame Reagan???

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2dontbeafool(941 comments)posted 3 months ago

well put Miller. America was built on the working class and manufacturing. Now it is just the super rich paying the politicians to make policies in their favor. Then at the same time, you have the right and left who work harder to try to screw the other side, rather than to pull together and get something accomplished. These politicians start campaigning 6 months after they take office for the next election. Corrupt system, and the only people who can fix it is the corrupt people, which will not happen. I don't see this ever getting any better.

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3redeye1(4558 comments)posted 3 months ago

Millerh, dontbafool When was the last time you heard a poor guy giving someone a job. I have never had. These people put the money where there mouth is , if it doesn't work then they lose everything. But with people like you two who feels that everyone should be equal. If you don't like working for someone else , Start your own company and let's see how much you two would share. My is guess little to nothing, but as long as the two of you are not responsible for anyone else's making a living, you want even more. This is called GREED !!

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4steivo(540 comments)posted 3 months ago

The last thing we need is a redistribution of income. What is badly needed is a redistribution of work. There are too many who do not and will not work while others are toiling away endlessly. You are right about the politicians in permanent campaign mode. The Liar is the best example of that. If he spent half the time running the country as he does on endless fundraisers, we would be a lot better off.

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5jeratboy(127 comments)posted 3 months ago

If the so called robber barons did not start those companies there wouldn't be any workingman.

Typical Y-Town attitude. I live in an area that never had a steel mill, car plant, or any manufacturing that employed more than a few hundred and we are doing great. Don't you think forgetting the old ways would be the way to go and do what we can to help the next generation of so called robber barons?

Only in towns like Y-Town do you hear insults of Reagan. Everywhere else, that is doing good, know why more voted for him than any other presidential candidate ever!

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6jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 3 months ago

I would like to ask Miller a question:

When was the last time three former great cities like Detroit, Cleveland & Youngstown had a Republican mayor?

The state of California is run by Dems, and as you know, there are many cities in bankruptcy there. Infact, one police chief, in a small CA town, just retired with a $471,000 pension and complained that he is underpaid.

How about the state of Illinois which is run by Dems? They are so deep in debt, they have no idea how they will repay it.

You sound like a typical union Ytowner who has no idea what's going on.

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7jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 3 months ago

Who said the following?

I had no idea about Benghazi, the VA, the IRS, etc., etc., etc.,

But I'm mad as H***.

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8jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 3 months ago

The House passed a bill 390 to 33 to make the VA more accountable.The Dem Senate kjilled the bill.

Who said "Taking care of our veterans and their families has been one of my goals." OBAMA LIED - VETERANS DIED

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9steivo(540 comments)posted 3 months ago

jeratboy,
I am from Y-T and all you will ever hear from me is that Ronald Reagan is the best President in the history of the U.S. and it is not even close.

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10jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 3 months ago

Millerr says "Nancy ran the government." That's about as dumb a statement as Pelosi's statement, "We gotta pass the law to see what's in it."

Can you imagine Nancy going to the Berlin Wall and saying, "Mr. GORBACHEV, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL."

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11lajoci(255 comments)posted 3 months ago

"The last thing we need is a redistribution of income. What is badly needed is a redistribution of work."

What we badly need are jobs, which the so-called "job creators" have failed to create.

Want people to work? Make some jobs, job creators!

Otherwise, shut up!

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12steivo(540 comments)posted 3 months ago

There are jobs everywhere and in some areas labor shortages all the while the percentage of people working is at an all time low. The problem is that this Liar has made it so lucrative to decline work that many are doing just that.

You really need to get your head out of the sand and look around.

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13jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 3 months ago

Otherwise, shut up! WOW, iajoc. How can the job creators create jobs with all of the regulations the Obama administration has put up which are actually restrictions to creating jobs.

One of the founders, of Home Depot, was on TV a couple of weeks ago and said that there was no way Home Depot could be started today with all of the regulations that are in place today. No way.

By the way, when was the last Jobs Council meeting? I sure as h*** don't remember. The one Jobs Council that was held, years ago, Obama did not even invite the US Chamber of Commerce. The only job creator was the CEO of GE. Most of the other invitees were union officials. Since when do union officials create jobs.

I keep telling you Ytowners, you have no idea what's going on in this country.
You had better wake. Betras is not the answer.

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14lajoci(255 comments)posted 3 months ago

Really?

Post some jobs, genius.

Then I'll get my head out of the sand.

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15steivo(540 comments)posted 3 months ago

There are 5 pages of job ads into today's Vindicator. Most of them have been there for weeks without any takers. Why apply for a job when the Liar hands me everything I need for free.

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16jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 3 months ago

HEY IAJOC, you're answer to my post #13 was "really."
You're not very smart iajoc. Do you know what the job of a Jobs Council is? Well, read the following

"The President's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness (Jobs Council) was created to provide non-partisan advice to the President on continuing to strengthen the Nation's economy and ensure the competitiveness of the United States and on ways to create jobs, opportunity, and prosperity for the American people.

When did the president, last, have a Jobs Council meeting?

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17jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

CNBC:

In a potentially crippling blow to Obamacare, a federal appeals court panel declared Tuesday that government subsidies worth billions of dollars that helped 4.7 million people buy insurance on HealthCare.gov are illegal.

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18jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

QUOTE OF THE CENTURY. Some possess the vocabulary to sum things up in a way we can understand. This is a quote from the former premier of the Czwch Repiblic. Obviously, we we have a lot of work to do to repair the damage they have done. "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problen is much deeper and far more serious than Mr Obama, who is a more sympton of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confereracy of the fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their pesident.." VACLAV KLAUS

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19cambridge(3023 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

I remember when reagan was governor of California and he closed all of the state run mental health facilities and threw the patients out on the street. It always makes me smile knowing he spent the last ten years of his life as a lump in a dirty diaper. Karma!

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20jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

You can't defend Obama anymore, so you're reaching to Reagan, the greatest President since Lincoln, & then you come up with such trash, cambridge. I'm telling you, you have no idea what's going on.

So no, Reagan, didn't close mental hospitals or put anyone on the street. Progressive views on mental health, a misguided ACLU, and politicians who "know better" did it. Then finally (the last year Reagan was governor), O’Connor v. Donaldson, 422 U.S. 563 (1975), the Supreme Court found a constitutional right to liberty for mental health patients: "There is...no constitutional basis for confining such persons involuntarily if they are dangerous to no one." With this constitutional recognition, the practice of mental health law became a process of limiting and defining the power of the state to detain and treat. The result was a codification of mental health rights that have done away with non-voluntary commitment except in extreme cases. Politics and Mental Health

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21georgejeanie(840 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Try the fracking industry for a job. What to hard///, too dirty, too cold, too hot, too far away from home, too afraid to leave mommy and daddy you lazy bums crying about no job opportunities get off your dead rear ends and do what your fathers and grandfathers did and go find a job.

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22steivo(540 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

George,
Why would anyone want to work when the Liar gives them everything for free?

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23georgejeanie(840 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

I forgot steivo.

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24walter_sobchak(1921 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

cambridge,
I remember when Reagan was President of the United States, taking over a country that Jimmae Carter turned into a laughingstock. By using a positive attitude, patriotism, and plain speech, he turned us around and put pride back into this nation. You probably believe he was a simpleton or an "amiable dunce" but you can't deny that he transformed America and won the Cold War. He went straight to the American people, pressed his case, and through skilled political maneuvering was able to encourage Congress to see it his way. Contrast that to our current president who, when faced with crises, goes to the next fund-raiser and tees it up for just one more round. But, to take delight in a person getting Alzheimer's is pretty low. No one asks for that disease.

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25steivo(540 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Walter,
I believe Reagan was the best POTUS in our history.

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26tnmartin(243 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

have to disagree with Steivo. I don't think Reagan was the best POTUS in history. That honor probably goes to Washington. But in modern history, I think the best was Calvin Coolidge.
Reagan was too liberal and too pro-union, and got snookered into Ted "the swimmer" Kennedy's catastrophic and nation-damaging 1986 immigration reform bill. (Which, by the way, should be repealed forthwith). He was better than Jimmy the Peanuthead Carter and George H.W. Bush, but that's a pretty low standard.

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27cambridge(3023 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

walter....reagan didn't have any compassion for the people with mental illness he threw out on the streets and I don't have any for him. He got what he deserved. Like I said Karma!

In 1986 reagan signed an amnesty bill that made 1.7 illegal's citizens but Obama is the devil.

reagan raised taxes seven of his eight years with a total of eleven tax raises while cutting taxes on the rich. Obama cut taxes and they are the lowest since the 1950's but Obama is the devil.

reagan sold arms and bankrolled Osama bin Ladean and al quada. reagan illegally sold arms to Iran. Obama killed bin Ladean but Obama is the devil.

reagan bailed out the crooks in the S&L scandal. Obama made sure Wall Street and the banks paid back the trillion dollars bush just wanted to give away but Obama is the devil.

The teabagger/republicans are delusional when it comes to reagan. The guy was a true scumbag.

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28walter_sobchak(1921 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Many out here are asking, "does Walter have a list of the 10 best Presidents with respect to how they have advanced this great nation?" He does:

Washington
Lincoln
Jefferson
FDR
Jackson
Reagan
Teddy Roosevelt
Madison
James K. Polk
Ike

Clinton would be in the top 10 if he could have kept his zipper up but he would be in the next 5 with Cleveland, Coolidge, John Adams and Truman.

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29steivo(540 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

I am beginning to believe that the reason you don't like Reagan is that you were one of the ones thrown out of the mental institutions!

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30cambridge(3023 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Oh, I forgot to mention, Al Qaeda that was bankrolled by reagan blew up the Marine barracks in Beirut killing 241 Marines and injuring many more. That's your boy reagan.

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31cambridge(3023 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Like I said reagan raised taxes eleven times on the masses while cutting them for the rich and all the while he tripled the national debt by borrowing more money than ALL of the presidents before him COMBINED. Obama cut taxes while cutting the defect in half but Obama is the devil.

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32jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Reagan didn't try to bring down the country like your highness is.

By the way, Clinton had Bin Laden in his grips & released him. Bin Laden was responsible for almost 3000 deaths.

Also Reagan is a proper noun & should always be capitalized. I noticed you capitalized Al Qadea. You must be full of hate.

Better do some research. Your post 39 is all wet.

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33steivo(540 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Reagan raised my taxes 0 times and he cut my taxes big time and I am not rich.

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34jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Ronald Reagan may have presided over the most significant tax reform effort in our nation’s history, yet historical revisionists are attempting to besmirch that legacy — while using him as a straw man against modern Republicans.

Saying Ronald Reagan raised taxes is like saying Michael Jordan was a guy who struck out a lot — or that he was a failed baseball player: It’s factually correct, but misleading, nonetheless.

I’ve decided to examine Reagan’s tax cuts and tax increases in order to set the record straight and end this tomfoolery.

Over the course of his two terms in office, Reagan presided over several changes to the tax code. What is important to remember — what is vital to understand — is that not all taxes are created equal.

When Democrats or media embrace Reagan for “raising taxes X number of times,” they are usually engaging in willful obfuscation. This is because they know that when most people hear the words, “tax hike,” they naturally assume you mean raising income taxes. But tax rates (both nominal and effective) dropped dramatically across-the-board during Reagan’s tenure.

Not only did the top individual income tax rate go from 70 to 28 percent! — but the tax code was also indexed for inflation (this is a big deal, because inflation had heretofore pushed people into higher tax brackets — a double whammy.)

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35jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Guys like cambridge and iajoc have no idea what's going on in this country. Absolutely none. They make up stories time again and are always proven false. I think they just want to see what they post, & probably say AAhhhh, I did it.

They remind me of Obama. If you like your................

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36billdog1(1329 comments)posted 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Reagan wouldn't care as long as party came first. That was Ronny's claim.

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37jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Hamas builds tunnels and rockets to kidnap and kill Jews, has a charter that calls for the killing of all Jews wherever they live, launches missile attacks against Israelis, uses UNWRA facilities to hide rockets, spreads anti-Semitism and claims of war crimes against Israel, has become unpopular in Gaza, and is losing support in Egypt and the Arab world.

And now the US wants to reward and rescue them with a vast influx of money? They will use that time and money to develop more accurate and deadly missiles, etc.

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38jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Presidents During A Crisis:

# 1 - Four Score and Seven Years Ago..........

# 2 - FORE

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39iBuck(223 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Reagan's one failing was that he wimped out on a few things. They (congress+Reagan) passed 2 tax cuts and some 13 tax increases. They never made the attempt to eliminate the Departments of Educationism and Energy as mentioned as goals during the election campaign. David Stockman has noted more than once the many needed cuts that the Reagan admin simply caved on. To hear the left whine you'd have thought he was pressing them hard, cutting into the trunk; while in reality they barely snipped the tips off of a few dead twigs. (Great cartoon from that time; Stockman's Tree Surgeons.)

And Reagan's wimping out encouraged the later wimps, GHWBush and Shrub, to wimp out even worse (e.g. "assault rifle" import ban, part D, and, of course, increasing federal extortions), and encouraged the extreme leftists to go even further off the rails.

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40NBees(44 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Saint Reagan... work was so scarce during his administration that the employment office told my sister to go apply for welfare as there wasn't enough work for the men. I was working min. wage in a kitchen bringing leftover food home to feed her children. Life was hard. Every time I hear people praising Reagan, it makes me want to spit on the ground.

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41steivo(540 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Everytime I hear someone criticize Reagan, considering the Liar we have today, I am disgusted.

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42jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Sounds like a dilemma of your own making. Where was you sister's husband, NBees?

Maybe you don't remember Carter who preceded Reagan as president. Remember 16% mortgage rates. Construction came to a halt under Carter. Within 2 years of Reagan's rein, the whole country started making money again.

I believe you have Carter mixed up with Reagan.

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43joemamma(61 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

i would cringe if i saw the likes of reagan or nancy again !

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44jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

That's noit a very brilliant statement, joemamma. You should say why you hate so much. Maybe you're in love with Obama.

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45steivo(540 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Well, at least I know your feeling. I cringe every time I see Obama.

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46IslandMike(757 comments)posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

The Great Communicator? Reagan's children did not speak to him.
Reagan raised taxes and hurt the middle class
Reagan was a FELON. (See: Iran / Contra)
I guess you forget about Beirut
The writer is clueless about abandoning capitalism in favor of socialism, why do you think your boy Mitt-Flopper (the poster child for ObamaCare) refused to release his tax returns? The wealthy pay a lower percentage in taxes than the middle-class, I'd hardly call that socialism.
As far as removing all traces of God from our schools and public places, perhaps you heard of THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?
As for the deficit and wasteful spending, you didn't have any problem when we were dumping a TRILLION DOLLARS a year into that sewer called Iraq.

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47jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago

Reagan was the GREAT COMMUNICATOR.

Obama is the GREAT FUNDRAISER.

And really, Obama doesn't have worry about being impeached for being completely incompetent.

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48valleypoboy(113 comments)posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago

So you want to accept moral leadership from the guy who killed the US steel industry. How quickly we forget.

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49jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago

Hey valleypo, Carter was president when the mills closed, but it was nobodys fault but the unions. Remember when the unions sucked all of the blood from the steel companies, and when there was no more blood to suck, the unions demanded a three month vacation every five years for the steel workers with pay. You tell me how a company could survive with that kind of a benefit. You sound like a former steel worker who got the shaft from your union.

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50bunkpatrol(89 comments)posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago

Reagan was the beginning of the end. EVERY president since and including him has handed this country over to the 1 percent.

Only sweat and blood trickle down. Wait for the cup of the rich to overflow so I can benefit from their dropping crumbs while I toil for their tax sheltered corporations ?

"Let your life be a friction against the machine." Thoreau

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51steivo(540 comments)posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago

The left wing extremists are at it again with the revisionist history. Reagan saved the steel industry:
"In 1984, Ronald Reagan imposed import quotas to stem the tide of cheap foreign steel."

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52jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago

I personally love the wealthy people. I have been employed by some very wealthy people. I have never been employed by someone on welfare.

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53whoa21(19 comments)posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago

Senile, under informed and ill-prepared with a touch of Alzheimer's pretty much describes the great communicator.

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54steivo(540 comments)posted 2 months, 1 week ago

Under informed, ill-prepared and stupid pretty much describes the Liar.

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55DACOUNTRYBOY(238 comments)posted 2 months, 1 week ago

Obama who is the man of the hour has relaxed standards for the masses nationwide.

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56HSG(130 comments)posted 2 months, 1 week ago

Ron Reagan, man of God, our first divorced president, did not have 'time' to attend church, yet so capable of invoking the name of "God' in quotes such as the above.

Also a spendthrift when it came to taxpayer money.

Also, shall we say, less than forthright when it came to Iran-Contra, i.e. "I will not negotiate with terrorists,' and proceeded to do just that.

When his terms were over and he gave deposition relative to Iran-Contra, his testimony contained "I don't know' or "I can't remember" 168 Times! The pathetic thing was, he was probably telling the truth.

One book written by James Baker details how the most complicated of economic or budgetary issues always had to be 'reduced to bullets filling no more than one legal pad page' when presented to Old Ron. Asleep in meetings especially as age and disinterest creeped into play.

Other than minor issues such as the above, quite a capable leader, say for the local grocery or fast food outlet.

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57jojuggie(1285 comments)posted 2 months, 1 week ago

HSG sounds like an official of the local UAW.

Here is a comparison of the Obama administration. I say administration because Obama all the way down to a lowly official, in this adm., has much to hide:

Lois Lerner is one of 20 Obama officials who conveniently lost their emails.

Twenty different Obama officials, including Lois Lerner in the IRS and Marilynn Tavenner at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid, have lost their emails – which is against the law.
The National Review reported:

The revelation that Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services administrator Marilynn Tavenner did not retain her e-mails means that more than 20 witnesses in the Obama administration lose or delete e-mails without notifying Congress, according to the top House investigator.

“The Obama administration has lost or destroyed e-mails for more than 20 witnesses, and in each case, the loss wasn’t disclosed to the National Archives or Congress for months or years, in violation of federal law,” House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) said ofTavenner’s lost e-mails.

“It defies logic that so many senior Administration officials were found to have ignored federal recordkeeping requirements only after Congress asked to see their e-mails,” he continued. “Just this week, my staff followed up with HHS, who has failed to comply with a subpoena from ten months ago. Even at that point, the administration did not inform us that there was a problem with Ms. Tavenner’s e-mail history. Yet again, we discover that this administration will not be forthright with the American people unless cornered.”

From February of 2010 to November of 2013 — one month after the launch of theHealthCare.gov website, as the Daily Caller’s Patrick Howley noted — Tavenner didn’t maintain copies of her e-mails as required.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) released this statement on the criminal behavior.

“Today’s news that a senior HHS executive destroyed emails relevant to a congressional investigation means that the Obama Administration has lost or destroyed emails for more than 20 witnesses, and in each case, the loss wasn’t disclosed to the National Archives or Congress for months or years, in violation of federal law,” said Chairman Issa. “It defies logic that so many senior Administration officials were found to have ignored federal recordkeeping requirements only after Congress asked to see their emails. Just this week, my staff followed up with HHS, who has failed to comply with a subpoena from ten months ago. Even at that point, the administration did not inform us that there was a problem with Ms. Tavenner’s email history. Yet again, we discover that this Administration will not be forthright with the American people unless cornered.”

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