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Given antics of his predecessors, Obama is hardly worst president



Published: Mon, July 14, 2014 @ 12:00 a.m.

Given antics of his predecessors, Obama is hardly worst president

I have read and seen on televi- sion the results of a recent poll that found the majority believed President Obama to be the “worst president” since World War II.

Let’s look at some postwar presidential facts.

Republican President Richard Nixon and his Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned from their offices just before impeachment and imprisonment.

Republican President Ronald Reagan had Iran-Contra, savings and loan crimes, Pentagon and HUD scandals that cost taxpayers millions of dollars.

Democratic President William Clinton’s escapades in the Oval Office cost taxpayers millions of dollars and resulted in no impeachment proceedings.

Republican President George Bush had Enron, Tyco, World Com, Abramoff, Madoff, and Scooter Libby and everyone went to jail. Not to mention the phony facts that led to the Iraq War, which cost trillions in dollars and thousands of American and Iraqi lives. These are facts.

All Obama and his administration want to do is feed the poor, heal the sick, extend unemployment benefits, guarantee equal pay for women, and fight fewer wars, which save us money and lives. And the people feel these are scandals and he is the worst president since 1945? The scandal is that Congress is thwarting his every effort.

The questions to be asked here are: How intelligent were these people (must have been Republicans) or what planet were they from?

David P. Gaibis Sr., New Castle


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1Photoman(993 comments)posted 1 week, 1 day ago

Thank you very much for defending the President of the United States of America. I do hope that reality will arrive in your world in the very near future.

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2borylie(768 comments)posted 1 week, 1 day ago

Surely Mr.Gaibis you're letter is in jest. While I'm lmao because this is so funny you or any liberal/democrat ideologue can't be serious.

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3steivo(241 comments)posted 1 week, 1 day ago

David,
You can't be serious. You must have written this letter just to get a reaction. This Liar is the worst POTUS since the Revolutionary War, let alone WWII. Fast and Furious, Benghazi (What difference does it make, IRS scandal, release of 5 terrorists from Guantanamo, Liar care debacle, immigration disaster, War on Coal, Keystone pipeline. Everything this Liar touches is a disaster.

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4JMHO(138 comments)posted 1 week ago

How do you type the sound of a cuckoo clock?

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5Knightcap(682 comments)posted 1 week ago

Hey David, weren't you on "Last Comic Standing" doing these Obama shticks. I don't think these posters know who you are but you are hilarious. Your description of Obama is great. Really shows he's in the wrong line of business. He was made out to be a community organizer, missionary, or peace corps worker, not the president of the United States. Obama would also be a hit on the Liar's Club" show.

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6steivo(241 comments)posted 1 week ago

Well last year he won the Lie of the Year award for "if you like your health insurance you can keep your insurance, period. Maybe he can go for a REPEAT this year for "not even a smidgeon of corruption" in the IRS.

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7eagleye(56 comments)posted 1 week ago

What are you smoking, dude? Been to planet earth lately? Tell me....name a President in history that KNOWINGLY appointed Marxists, Communists, and thugs to high government positions? How about Van Jones (Communist), Anita Dunn (Marxist), to name a couple. You obviously don't read the right newspapers, or watch TV, unless its MSNBC which is the Obamunist Network. Get a grip, fool. You really don't know what you're talking about at all.

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8lajoci(166 comments)posted 1 week ago

Forget about trying to make sense to these Yahoo's, Dave. They hate the President, pure and simple, and their puerile fantasy is to see Obama impeached, out of some perverse sense of "fair and balanced," I guess.

Who knows?

They give him zero credit for the accomplishments of his administration, because they don't care what he does.

They hate him for what he is, and for what their fantasies of him are. Simple as that.

That one lunatic's mindless repetition of "What difference does it make?" says it all -- in their fever to denigrate the President, they attribute to him things he never said, or they rip words out of context in a perverse game of NIGYSOB (look it up).

The cacophony of mindless slogans repeated ad nauseum by the right-wingnut tea-bagger cement-heads is not even the least little bit interesting anymore.

Ignore them, Dave, as one ignores the braying of barnyard beasts, or the chortlings of roosting birds.

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9steivo(241 comments)posted 1 week ago

There you go Dave. You have found one left wing looney to support your extremist left wing position.

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10lajoci(166 comments)posted 1 week ago

The right-wingnuts HATE the FACT that unemployment is DOWN to 6%.

The right-wingnuts HATE the FACT that Barack Hussein Obama made sure that Osama Bin Laden (who could have been re-named Osama Been Forgotten for all the attention he got from the Bushies) was hunted down and killed.

The right-wingnuts HATE the FACT that the economy under this President has been brought back from the brink -- instead of plunging over the precipice into a full-blown depression.

The right-wingnuts HATE the FACT that this is the 1st President to successfully begin the reform of our broken health insurance system, a system that left 40 million UNINSURED and benefitted only the for-profit insurance companies.

The right-wingnuts HATE the FACT that this President has diligently pursued policies that protect clean water and air, because right-wingnuts love of poisonous air and water, I guess.

And the list of FACTS about this President that righ-wingnuts HATE goes on and on, like a broken record, as they repeat slogans and catch-phrases that bear no relation to reality, but serve only to insult our President. The concept of loyal opposition is lost on the right-wingnuts, who wallow only in the "opposition" part.

Why?

Because the right-wingnuts HATE our President!

Because the right wingnuts HATE America!

Shame on the disloyalty of the right-wingnuts!

Shame!

(The right-wingnuts need to go BACK TO SCHOOL for instruction on what civics is and how to be good citizens and how to practice good citizenship, because, obviously, they missed it the 1st time around.)

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11steivo(241 comments)posted 1 week ago

The left wing loonies don't care that a border agent was killed by a gun that was run from Fast and Furious.

The left wing loonies don't care that we were told we could keep our insurance if we liked it period.

The left wing loonies don't care that 4 Americans were killed in Benghazi. In fact they say "what difference does it make"

The left wing loonies don't care that the IRS is used for political with hunts. I wonder how they would feel if they were the ones being audited?

The left wing loonies don't care that 5 terrorists were released from Guantanamo to rejoin the fight.

The left wing loonies don't care that the President makes up the laws as he goes along and enforces only those laws that he likes. Thank heavens for the Supreme Court.

The left wing loonies don't care that the coal industry is being killed for no reason at all.

The left wing loonies don't care that the Keystone Pipeline is still not being built for a new source of oil.

The left wing loonies HATE America.

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12stievo(14 comments)posted 6 days, 9 hours ago

and I steivo and my Tea Party HATE minorities and the poor. Rand Paul 2016

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13steivo(241 comments)posted 6 days, 8 hours ago

ding ding ding, give stievo a kewpie doll for being the first poster to play the race card today. Eric Holder would be proud of you.

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14stievo(14 comments)posted 6 days, 4 hours ago

Yes I am talking to myself again. Being bi-polar is a beeotch. We love Fox News. Palin is our idol. I need a third personality, steivo is boring me.

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15cambridge(2958 comments)posted 6 days ago

All of these haters voted for bush who inherited the strongest economy this country has ever seen along with the formula for paying off the national debt and he blew it. His economic policies wrecked the economy and drove the DOW down to 6,500. Under Obama's economic policies the DOW closed today over 17,100.

These haters also voted for bush's father who was part of the the saint reagan administration. When Obama took office the country was losing 700,000 jobs a month. Because of Obama's policies more net jobs have been created during his administration than bush the father and bush the idiot son combined.

Speaking of saint reagan, the previous Democratic President Clinton's administrations policies created more jobs than reagan, bush the father and bush the idiot son combined.

The teabagger/republicans brag about polls of 1500 or less people and ignore elections where more than 120,000,000 voted and Obama won by landslides. He would win another election tomorrow because the teabaggers have no one to run against him.

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16theoldwrench(234 comments)posted 6 days ago

The RW loony' s can't understand that the new abundance of NG is the biggest enemy of coal.If RW loony's really want to help the coal industry they should use coal to heat their homes, The 10s of thousands new job's created would far outnumber the KS pipeline would create Why weren't the RWL concerned about the hundreds of dead Americans in previous embassy attacks before 2009. If RWL want to stop the use of E.O. sit down and do their job's The RWL don't care about the 40M w/out H.I. only the 5M who probably have better ins now. Imagine RWL reaction if the President could have gotten the pow released but didn't take it. The RWL will not understand the pipeline will not help the US and only Canada and China will profit from it. If they really want to get the pipeline then support the Dema amendment that the oil can only be used in US.

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17steivo(241 comments)posted 5 days, 23 hours ago

The LWL can't understand that COAL IS NOT BAD. Our electricity rates are increasing because the Liar wants to remove the last speck of dust from the air (as soon as it rains the last speck of dust will be removed anyway). The LWL don't understand that the oil from Canada is going to reach the market whether they like it or not, it is only a matter of the means of transportation of that oil. Its either the pipeline or trucks and trains. The LWL don't understand that the so called POW was a deserter and was merely used an excuse to begin the shutdown of Guantanamo by releasing all of the terrorists.

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18stievo(14 comments)posted 5 days, 22 hours ago

Global warming has be defeated! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

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19steivo(241 comments)posted 5 days, 22 hours ago

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE.

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20lajoci(166 comments)posted 5 days, 18 hours ago

Right on cue, no rebuttal, just a re-hash of right-wingnut talking points, lies, and distortions.

"a border agent was killed by a gun that was run from Fast and Furious."
Never proven; ballistics analysis - inconclusive. Still, this badly conceived program to trace illegal guns began in 2006, before Obama.

"we were told we could keep our insurance if we liked it period."
What he should have said was "You can keep your insurance unless it's JUNK, then no - you have to get a valid policy."

"what difference does it make"
We hear this slogan ad nauseum. Neither left-wing loonies, nor Democrats, nor the President EVER said this -- in FACT, Hillary said this in response to questions in a hearing: "With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator." Was she was referring to the deaths themselves? No! Shame on you!

"the IRS is used for political with hunts. I wonder how they would feel if they were the ones being audited?"
Actually, "left-wing" groups WERE AUDITED, TARGETED BECAUSE OF KEY WORDS IN THE NAMES OF THEIR ORGANIZATIONS. So get over it! (Right-wingnuts' paranoia is legendary. Everybody is always out to get them.)

"5 terrorists were released from Guantanamo to rejoin the fight."
HA! Gitmo should have been closed years ago, or never opened! It was full of ordinary blokes who were fingered by rivals in their home countries as an easy way to get rid of opponents, or, indeed, anyone they had a grudge against. Sickening that without trial, we have no way of knowing whether these miserable creatures were dangerous or not, except to say that they must be guilty of something since they obviously were arrested and thrown into the hoos-gow.

"the President makes up the laws as he goes along and enforces only those laws that he likes."
Executive actions and signing statements, like Bush 43, Clinton, Bush 41, and the list goes on. Get real!

"the coal industry is being killed for no reason at all."
So, here is what it is all about -- another shill for the fossil-fuel industry trolls newspaper sites churning out PR for the coal and oil companies. Rather than an ideologically pure right-wingnut, here is a paid hack. Sad.

"the Keystone Pipeline is still not being built for a new source of oil."
I don't know about other "left-wing loonies," but this left-wing looney (me) thinks that if more pipelines are NEVER built, it will be too soon.

"The left wing loonies HATE America."

It's pretty obvious who the haters are, don't you think?

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21stievo(14 comments)posted 5 days, 9 hours ago

That information wasn't acquired through Fox News was it? THEN I DON'T BELIEVE IT!

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22stievo(14 comments)posted 5 days, 9 hours ago

Oh yeah, what difference does it make if the emperor isn't wearing clothes in Benghazi at an IRS witch hunt?

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23jeffrey(4 comments)posted 5 days, 9 hours ago

Did not realize there were so many uneducated people still believing the right wing garbage fed them. Until some of these people can learn to decipher the truth from the right wing lies and false accusations, then they will continue to write their "clever" responses to someone that speaks the truth. Good letter Dave but it seems most responses come from the right wing nut bigots. I usually do not respond but thought you should know there are many of us that feel like you. Now, we wait for my attack from the nut cases and how I am some un-patriotic American....

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24steivo(241 comments)posted 5 days, 8 hours ago

The Dumocratic obstructionists are at it again:
"WASHINGTON – Democratic opposition increased Wednesday to legal changes that would speed removals of young Central American migrants, jeopardizing President Barack Obama's call for $3.7 billion in emergency border spending to deal with the remarkable surge of unaccompanied youths at the South Texas border."

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25steivo(241 comments)posted 5 days, 8 hours ago

"Still, this badly conceived program to trace illegal guns began in 2006, before Obama." More blame Bush.

"What he should have said was "You can keep your insurance unless it's JUNK, then no - you have to get a valid policy." False, but a fine left wing talking point.

"she was referring to the deaths themselves?" I know.

"Actually, "left-wing" groups WERE AUDITED" Yeah, about 1 for every 100 conservative groups. Another fine left wing talking point to obfuscate.

"HA! Gitmo should have been closed years ago, or never opened! It was full of ordinary blokes who were fingered by rivals in their home countries as an easy way to get rid of opponents, or, indeed, anyone they had a grudge against." So America are the bad guys and the terrorists are the good guys???

"So, here is what it is all about -- another shill for the fossil-fuel industry trolls newspaper sites churning out PR for the coal and oil companies. Rather than an ideologically pure right-wingnut, here is a paid hack."
This is entirely false but very indicative of how the left wing extremists start with personal attacks when the hear something they don't agree with.

"I don't know about other "left-wing loonies," but this left-wing looney (me) thinks that if more pipelines are NEVER built, it will be too soon."
Try to get it through your thick skull. The oil from Canada is going to get to market whether Tom Steyer likes it or not. It is only a matter of what means of transportation is going to be used.

It really is pretty obvious who the haters are!

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26stievo(14 comments)posted 5 days, 8 hours ago

Oh yeah, what difference does it make if the emperor isn't wearing clothes in Benghazi at an IRS witch hunt?

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27steivo(241 comments)posted 5 days, 5 hours ago

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED - WMD'S - DUBYA

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28Chessiedad(112 comments)posted 5 days, 4 hours ago

My guess is Mr. Gaibis is is complacent with the current administration because he is obviously willing to "toe the party line" in true "Saul Alinsky" fashion. Remember Alinsky's rule: "Ridicule is mans most potent weapon". So, Mr. Gaibis, if you are good with the "socialist" direction this Country is headed in, with all of the "government entitlements" you list, I hope you don't have children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren who will be paying for those programs, long after we are gone. Furthermore, the one thing that America should fear from this current administration is it's willingness to "target" it's critics with investigations by numerous Federal agencies, thereby causing many who would speak out against the government, to reconsider the value of doing so. And that, my friends, is the beginning of "tyranny", something we should all be terrified of. So, all in all, considering all of the "antics" of prior administrations, I can find none that were so willing, like the current one, to trash the Constitution, and be so blatant in doing so.

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29dontbeafool(835 comments)posted 5 days, 3 hours ago

sounds like fear mongering at its best.....

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30walter_sobchak(1840 comments)posted 5 days, 2 hours ago

I absolutely love reprints from The Onion!

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31Chessiedad(112 comments)posted 4 days, 6 hours ago

How 'bout ole Hussein claiming the "world is more tranquil" since he's been in office! Hey DUDE, ever hear of Ukraine or Israel, or what about your own claims that all the kids are fleeing Central America because of the horrible violent conditions, there? Once again, what mainstream media outlets will have the veracity to ask those questions? I can only think of one.

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32steivo(241 comments)posted 4 days, 6 hours ago

You got that right Chessie. There is not one single solitary place where the world is more tranquil since this Liar took office, but then "what difference does it make?"

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33dontbeafool(835 comments)posted 4 days, 4 hours ago

Yes, because the middle east, Isreal, and Central America were all at peace under Republican leadership. You two are whackos. There has always been conflict and crime there.

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34Chessiedad(112 comments)posted 3 days, 15 hours ago

Aha! Another "Alinsky-ite" chimes in! Can't substantiate Husseins "B.S." so resort to "ridicule". Face it, every time Hussein opens his mouth, he sticks his foot in it. "The world is more tranquil...." and the next day almost three hundred innocent souls are shot from the sky, over that "tranquil" Ukraine/Russia border and Israel is forced to take action against the "tranquil" Palestinians who hide the missiles they continue to fire into Israel, in schools full of children. Yeah, nothing but "rainbows and unicorns" in Husseins version of the world, so let's go campaign, shoot some pool and drink some beers!

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35steivo(241 comments)posted 3 days, 6 hours ago

The plane shot down in the Ukraine is Bush's fault.
The Palestinians firing missiles into Israel is due to global warming.
What difference does it make?

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36lajoci(166 comments)posted 3 days, 1 hour ago

Steivo LIES about what Hillary said, and then has the GALL to call anyone else a liar! You're the liar, Steivo!

The war criminals in the BOOOOsh administration have the blood of 35,000 American casualties on their chicken-hawk fingers, and Steivo and the other right-wingnut whack-oes have the gall to repeat "Benghazi!" ad nauseUm!

Barack Hussein Obama has effectively saved the lives of thousands of American soldiers by pulling us out of those wasteful nightmares (when the McCains and Romneys of the lunatic "right" would have fed more of our boys into the meat-grinder), and all Steivo and the whack-oes can think of is a Hillary mis-quote!

Whack on, whack-oes!

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37steivo(241 comments)posted 3 days ago

I love how Iajoci calls me out for lying and then in the same post proclaims that there were war criminals in the Bush administration. And the the whacko of all whackos calls others one at the end!

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38dontbeafool(835 comments)posted 2 days, 19 hours ago

Bottom line is you are a liar. I noticed you didn't dispute that fact.

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39steivo(241 comments)posted 2 days, 18 hours ago

Are you trying to give Iajoci a run for whacko of the year?

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40IslandMike(737 comments)posted 2 days, 17 hours ago

The country is much better now than it was. When Obama took office the economy was in its worst shape since the Great Depression.
The greatest intelligence failure in the history of the WORLD occurred under Bush on 9/11 costing thousands of American lives..
4 people died in Benghazi, over 4,000 AMERICANS died in Iraq in Bush's fictitious war of Weapons of Mass Destruction.
ObamaCare is a success as it has insured over 8 million more people all while decreasing health care impact on GDP.
Bush embraced illegal immigration, he said, "many of these people are here doing jobs that most Americans don't want to do."
The stock market is at an all-time high!!
Unemployment is DOWN (even though congress refuses to pass a jobs bill.)
Bin Laden is DEAD
GM is ALIVE
The Republicans wanted illegals here to break unions and drive wages down and that is what killed the middle class.
The poll that said Obama is the worst President since WWII is the same one that said Mitt was going to win the election.

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41steivo(241 comments)posted 2 days, 17 hours ago

The percentage of the population receiving food stamps is at an all time high.
The percentage of people on welfare is at an all time high.
The percentage of people on disability is at an all time high.
The percentage of people working is at an all time low.
The national debt is at 17.5 million.
Illegal immigrants are flooding across the border.
Nearly 50% of the population pays no income taxes at all.
You left wing loonies can spin it all you want, but the reason the Liar was voted the worst POTUS since WWII is because its true.

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42lajoci(166 comments)posted 2 days, 14 hours ago

Spin? Who said anything about "spin?"

You lie! Period!

The % of people on food stamps is at an all-time high because the job creators ain;t creating jobs!

What part of not enough jobs don't you get?

And the number of working poor on food stamps is at an all-time high!So, the job creators ain't creating jobs that people can live on!

Matter of fact, the % of people on welfare is NOT at an all-time high, and hasn't been since the welfare reforms OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION reduced welfare rolls.

You really need to go back to school and try to learn something. Your ignorance is exceeded only by your capacity for lying.

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43Chessiedad(112 comments)posted 2 days, 6 hours ago

"the job creators ain;t (sp) creating jobs"...gee pa, why might that be? It's been six years now since Hussein has had the reigns of this Country, and apparently (according to lajoci's comments) he has been unable to create an economic climate where the "job creators" are comfortable in creating jobs. As a matter of fact, he has done the opposite, with all of his entitlements and "wealth distribution" policies. I can't blame any business for not hiring or cutting back, given the burdens Hussein has created for business in this Country, the most notable being "HusseinCare".

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44handymandave(409 comments)posted 2 days, 5 hours ago

If Obama is not the worse President the United States Has had, I don't know what more or little he can do to prove it. He does have two more years though to thoroughly screw things up more.

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45cambridge(2958 comments)posted 2 days, 5 hours ago

More net jobs created during Obama's administration than the administrations of bush the father and bush the idiot son combined.

As how the American people vote, they voted Obama President of the United States of America by landslides twice and would do the same today because you teabaggers have no one to run against him.

You lost big time both times. Get over it.

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46Chessiedad(112 comments)posted 2 days, 4 hours ago

It doesn't matter if the Bushes created ZERO jobs, what matters is NOW! And you libs need to decide on a "talking point". "Not enough jobs" or "more "net" jobs", pick a stance and stick to it. Seems like the only argument you can put forth is the "blame Bush" one, 'cause the facts show otherwise.

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47steivo(241 comments)posted 2 days, 1 hour ago

"Seems like the only argument you can put forth is the "blame Bush" one" Don't forget the good old reliable "It's due to global warming"

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48borylie(768 comments)posted 2 days, 1 hour ago

Democrats/ Liberals. Republicans/ Conservatives. Which one is closer to Communism?

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49IslandMike(737 comments)posted 1 day, 22 hours ago

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION - A way for the Republican Party to drive down wages and bust unions.

DISAPPEARANCE - That is what happened to the middle class after all the illegals came to the U.S. over the past twenty years.

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50Askmeificare(688 comments)posted 1 day, 22 hours ago

As a white midle aged male, I say:

Give MY PRESIDENT OUR PRESIDENT a 3rd and 4th term. He has done an exceptional job and beat many odds against him.

Truly a great man.

I feel sorry for those hard working taxpayers who do not support him. How blind they are.

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51walter_sobchak(1840 comments)posted 1 day, 20 hours ago

Whether or not Obama is the worst president since WWII will take a some time to evaluate after he has completed his term. But, he truly has a way to go to be worse than Jimmy Carter, who was truly feckless and a clown. Made the US an embarrassment on the world stage. Say what you want about Reagan, he was presidential and a leader who backed up his words with actions. And, that is the problem with Barack Hussein Obama. He doesn't truly grasp the actual meaning of the Office of President of the United States. A diplomatic outpost in Benghazi is attacked a four Americans killed, he campaigns the next day in Denver. Draw a red line in Syria, and when it is crossed, do absolutely nothing. Our only democratic ally in the Middle East, Israel, continues to get shelled on by the terrorist group Hamas, diss Prime Minister Netanyahu. A civilian airliner gets blown out of the sky by Russians using Russian missiles and technology, go to a $32000 a plate fundraiser. Tens of thousands of immigrant children cross the border in Texas but he goes to Texas for campaigning alone!

Now, time will tell if his terms will transform the country, especially with respect to ACA. I doubt it will be for the better.

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5276Ytown(1206 comments)posted 1 day, 19 hours ago

The "party" president! Actually, he left the White House the morning after Benghazi for campaigning in Las Vegas then on to Colorado. We finding out that he was MIA that night and missed the previous 5 days of intelligence briefings. . Almost 400 fundraisers in six years and 176 rounds of golf. That's where his priority lies.

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53steivo(241 comments)posted 1 day, 19 hours ago

Just 2 1/2 more years and he is back to being a community organizer.

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54IslandMike(737 comments)posted 1 day, 15 hours ago

Obama's best asset is his ability to make a bunch of sore losers CRY.

Elected TWICE by MAJORITY vote.
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!!!

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55steivo(241 comments)posted 1 day, 8 hours ago

SO WAS NIXON!!!!!!

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56Chessiedad(112 comments)posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

Hussein acts "decisively" to protect "gay and transgender" federal workers from discrimination, yet fails to secure our borders, and has only empty rhetoric when it comes to the situation in the Ukraine and Israel/Gaza. Actions like these are the reasons our enemies think we are a "joke" and continue to act out their aggressions on the world stage, without fear of retribution. They see Hussein decimating our Military, apologizing and bowing down to radical leaders around the world, negotiating with and releasing terrorist leaders for a probable Military deserter, taking over two years to respond to the murder of a U.S. Ambassador in Libya, (and initially lying to the American people, about it) and unable to take care of our own border security, so what's to fear? Yeah, the "world is more tranquil" since Husseins been the supposed "leader of the free world".

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57lajoci(166 comments)posted 1 day, 4 hours ago

"taking over two years to respond to the murder of a U.S. Ambassador in Libya, (and initially lying to the American people, about it)"

See how the baggers resort to lying themselves, even as they accuse the President of lying?

Obama is ON VIDEO, THE NEXT DAY, IN THE ROSE GARDEN, specifically referring to Benghazi as an "act or terror."

Them's the very words he used!

"act of terror"

And still, the baggers, in all their blind hatred of the President, refuse to tell the truth!

What part of "act of terror" do they not understand"

"act?" "terror?" "of?"

Criticize the President if you will -- that is your right as an American citizen; but don't expect to be taken seriously if you continue to lie.

Lying is wrong. Stop it.

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58IslandMike(737 comments)posted 1 day, 4 hours ago

The Republicans brought the Latinos across the borders for the last 20+ years in order to break unions and drive down wages, now the Neo-Cons act like this is on Obama.
The Republicans being in the pocket of corporate America did a GREAT job of using ILLEGALS to break unions and drive down wages and along with the wage killing and union killing, they also killed the MIDDLE CLASS.

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59steivo(241 comments)posted 1 day, 3 hours ago

"Lying is wrong. Stop it."
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This coming from the same person who said there were war criminals in the Bush administration.

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60steivo(241 comments)posted 1 day, 3 hours ago

"The Republicans brought the Latinos across the borders for the last 20+ years in order to break unions and drive down wages" No they didn't. Everyone knows the Democrats brought the Latinos in to increase their voter base.

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61cambridge(2958 comments)posted 1 day, 3 hours ago

When you lie to congress and the American people for your own reasons for going to war, cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands people and torture people, that pretty much makes you a war criminal. I'd say bush and the rest of his lying administration qualify.

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62steivo(241 comments)posted 1 day, 3 hours ago

"[Washington Times: “Ben Carson won the Western Conservative Summit’s annual presidential straw poll Sunday, capping a three-day extravaganza billed as the “rally on the right.” Mr. Carson took 22 percent of the vote, followed by Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas with 13 percent and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin with 12 percent."
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YES, YES, YES

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63steivo(241 comments)posted 1 day, 2 hours ago

So, lying is OK so long as Cambridge agrees with the lies.

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64walter_sobchak(1840 comments)posted 1 day, 2 hours ago

cambridge,
I didn't think you were part of the "blame America first" crowd. Faulty foreign intelligence does not rise to the level of lying. Britain had the same information we did and went to war. Most Democrat leaders also voted for the war effort. And, stop with the torture angle. We don't torture prisoners. It wasn't true then and its not true now. We used enhanced interrogation techniques to gain valuable information about the enemy.

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65tnmartin(196 comments)posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

BTW, can't tell for sure if Obumble is the worst.
I've always believed that the worst, the VERY worst, was Woodrow Wilson. Followed closely by Franklin D. Roosevelt. After that, it's tougher. Harding was pretty bad. LBJ was ghastly. Jimmy Carter was inept. Clinton may have been the worst person to BE president, which is not quite the same thing.
I do believe Obumble will end up as one of the worst three.

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66cambridge(2958 comments)posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

walter....there was no enemy. bush, channey, rumsfeld, rice, powell and the rest claimed they had proof and photos of stock piles of chemical weapons, they claimed they had proof of Iraq having a nuke weapons program and ties to al Qaeda and 9/11 and were an imminent threat to the United States. You can't claim to have proof of all those things while having none of it and not be called a liar. The only reason congress voted for going to war is because they believed the lies they were told.

The result was hundreds of thousands of innocent men, woman and children killed, trillions of US tax dollars wasted and a country left in ruins.

You can call it what you want, I call it lies and torture.

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67steivo(241 comments)posted 1 day, 1 hour ago

Please note that all of these quotes pre-date George Bush's election:
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"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
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I guess they were all in on it too?

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68borylie(768 comments)posted 23 hours, 21 minutes ago

steivo, Great job. Copy/paste this in just about every post, since these democrats/liberals want to revise history every day.

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69steivo(241 comments)posted 22 hours, 57 minutes ago

I can't wait to hear the spin the left wing loonies put on these quotes. It will look like a weather vane on an old barn in a wind storm.

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70cambridge(2958 comments)posted 22 hours, 30 minutes ago

skeevoeivo....it wasn't any of those people that put us in an illegal war four years later. It was bush the idiot you voted for that did that. No one else, it was him so you should just own it because your BS "spin" doesn't fly.

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71steivo(241 comments)posted 21 hours, 13 minutes ago

The goalposts are moving. Here is what you said before the quotes I posted "walter....there was no enemy. bush, channey, rumsfeld, rice, powell and the rest claimed they had proof and photos of stock piles of chemical weapons, they claimed they had proof of Iraq having a nuke weapons program and ties to al Qaeda and 9/11 and were an imminent threat to the United States. You can't claim to have proof of all those things while having none of it and not be called a liar.
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Then after the quotes you changed to "it wasn't any of those people that put us in an illegal war four years later"
-- If Bush was lying, then all of those folks in the quotes were lying too.

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72Chessiedad(112 comments)posted 20 hours, 10 minutes ago

Take a victory lap, steivo, you nailed it! The quotes, the authors and their political affiliations, and the dates! But watch, the libs will shift the argument, "Saul Alinsky-style", and resort to ridicule, 'cause they got nothing else. Their man in office has made it abundantly clear that the job is beyond his capabilities, and had it not been for the "complicit" media, covering for his shortcomings and bunglings, in his first term, and now, not so much in his second, he would have been exposed as nothing more than the "community organizer" he was. It's no wonder so many who voted for him, both times are having "buyers remorse".

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73lajoci(166 comments)posted 18 hours, 3 minutes ago

I was talking about Benghazi.

You baggers lie incessantly about what Obama said about Benghazi.

You baggers lie.

Not anyone else. You baggers.

You have no answer to my assessment of you as liars, so you ignore my condemnation of your repeated lying about what Obama said about Benghazi, and go off on some other tangent.

You're a liar, Steivo.

And so are your little bagger friends.

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74Chessiedad(112 comments)posted 15 hours, 54 minutes ago

Check the transcript of Husseins interview on "60 Minutes" the day after Benghazi. He freely admits that he avoided using the word "terrorism" to describe the incident. Then he sends Susan Rice out on five, count 'em, five Sunday news shows to spin the lie that the attack was the result of a "spontaneous demonstration", when they knew it was a planned attack by a group of terrorists. Lies upon lies to protect his false claims that he had the terrorists "on the run". That's really a fine example of a "Commander-in-Chief", trying to minimize the deaths of four Americans, one an Ambassador, just to aid his re-election chances.

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75steivo(241 comments)posted 8 hours, 12 minutes ago

@Iajoci,
Yeah, and I was talking to Cambridge in #66, but with comments like "The war criminals in the BOOOOsh administration have the blood of 35,000 American casualties on their chicken-hawk fingers", You really shouldn't accuse others of lying.

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