- Advertisement -
  • Most Commentedmost commented up
  • Most Emailedmost emailed up
  • Popularmost popular up
- Advertisement -

« News Home

Blacks are still not free, a speaker said.

Published: Thu, January 2, 2014 @ 12:00 a.m.

151 years after emancipation, full freedom for blacks questioned


Youngstown Councilman L. Nathaniel Pinkard, D-3rd, left, and Mayor John A. McNally participate in the annual Emancipation Proclamation and Installation Service at Price Memorial AME Zion Church in Youngstown. The Wednesday service dealt with the state of the black community 151 years after President Abraham Lincoln signed the historic document freeing slaves.

By Sean Barron



The nation’s first black president points to progress many blacks have made in 151 years, but it’s only part of a dichotomy that also sees a disproportionately high number of black men incarcerated and unemployed, a longtime pastor contends.

“It appears to me to be crystal clear that we’re still not free,” the Rev. Roderick C. Pounds Sr. said during Wednesday’s annual Emancipation Proclamation and Installation Service at Price Memorial AME Zion Church, 920 Dryden Ave. on the East Side.

Sponsoring the gathering were the Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance of Youngstown & Vicinity and the Baptist Pastors’ Council of Youngstown & Vicinity.

The two-hour program and worship service celebrated the 151st anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln’s signing of the Emancipation Proclamation on Jan. 1, 1863.

The executive order called for slaves to be free in so-called rebellious states, though it applied neither to border-slave states such as Kentucky and Missouri nor to parts of three Confederate states under Union control.

The Rev. Mr. Pounds, pastor of Second Baptist Church in Akron, cited Michelle Alexander’s book, “The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness” while noting that nearly 1 million black men remain behind bars, many unjustifiably.

“More black men are incarcerated today than there were slaves in 1868,” he told an audience of about 200.

Nevertheless, Mr. Pounds referred to Jeremiah 29:11, which points to God’s promise to bring certain oppressed people a future of hope and success instead of suffering.

It’s also important that Bible interpretations are coupled with social justice, which, he said, is “at the heart of what Jesus talked about regarding reaching out to the poor and incarcerated.”

“The Emancipation Proclamation was not a law passed by Congress, but a wartime decision made by the president,” noted the Rev. Dwight Dumas, founding president of the Commission to Pursue Reconciliation.

The Rev. Mr. Dumas called on the guests and parishioners to remember their ancestors’ struggles and celebrate the accomplishments of leaders such as South African President Nelson Mandela and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

In addition, he said, people should try to recognize how they can help such struggles, including having a positive impact on their communities and further reaching out to young people.

Kicking off the program was the Rev. Dr. William King, Price Memorial’s pastor.

The Rev. Mr. King read a portion of Martin Luther King’s famous “I Have a Dream” speech that pertains to freedom, which the late civil-rights leader gave during the Aug. 28, 1963, March on Washington.

Providing the musical selections was the Emancipation Community Choir. To honor Mandela, the group inserted his name in its interpretation of the popular 1968 Dion song, “Abraham, Martin and John.”

Additional remarks came from the Rev. Kevin Crum, pastor of New Hope Baptist Church and BPC president; Elder Rosetta Carter, associate minster of Greater Friendship Baptist Church; Rev. Gena Thornton, pastor of Grace AME Church in Warren; Rev. Robin Woodberry, assistant pastor of New Bethel Baptist Church; and Rev. Lewis W. Macklin II, IMA president and pastor of Holy Trinity Missionary Baptist Church, who also gave the benediction.

Reading of Scripture was from the Rev. Robbin Del Nagro, Mahoning Valley Association of Churches’ executive director.

Performing a liturgical expression was Shanika Jordan with Progressive Kingdom Ministries.


1opddad(61 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

With one of the problems identified.. (incarceration)...
What would be the solution, to correct this "injustice," you speak of ?
I'm speaking of the men and women, who are incarcerated unjustly, according to the information you have.
Are you working with the court system, attorneys, and families of the inmates who you know were convicted are unjustly ?

Suggest removal:

2formerdemliberal(182 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Rev. Pounds,

Any person or group who fails to take responsibility for their own actions by blaming others will never be free. Look in the mirror at the actions of some of your own race before throwing stones at others.

Suggest removal:

3Ypboy(50 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

This Rev. pound sounds just like all of the other black leaders. Always blaming someone else for their failures. The black people in this country need to 1) get an education and/or develop a skill, 2) no sex until they marry, 3) marry only after age 22.
It's called personal responsibility. The democrat party has been responsible for the demise of the blacks and the blacks continue to support the democrats. Go figure!!!!!

Suggest removal:

4ytownsteelman(628 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

The blacks in Youngstown are free enough to arm themselves and shoot their "brothers". They are free enough to find and use illegal drugs. They are also free enough to obey the laws of society and act in a responsible manner. If you engage in the first two you lose your freedom. If you engage in the last one you don't. That is the order of thing. Learn it, love it, live it!

Suggest removal:

5DaddyD(24 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Ypboy you say:
The black people in this country need to 1) get an education and/or develop a skill, 2) no sex until they marry, 3) marry only after age 22.
It's called personal responsibility. The democrat party has been responsible for the demise of the blacks and the blacks continue to support the democrats. Go figure!!!!! The same goes for the Whites they are just as bad or worst!!!! The blacks are getting the guns and the drugs from the White man. Just as many Whites are having all these kids and on welfare as blacks. Go to the Welfare office and you'll see just as many whites as there are blacks. The Republicans are not any better than Democrats they just have more money and make their own rules. We need to get all these old racist Congressmen and Senators out of office and start from scratch

Suggest removal:

6RobX(59 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

In 2014 if blacks are still enslaved, its because of other blacks.

300 years ago in Africa, whites didn't do much marching into the continent to get slaves. Instead, blacks sold other blacks into slavery.

Now blacks are selling each other into slavery by raising kids with no fathers, no morals, & no expectations of ever doing good. They are accepting gang culture. They are letting kids running out of control in classrooms & in homes & in the streets. Its not the white kids shooting up the south side!

Suggest removal:

7eagleye(59 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

NEWS FLASH! YOUNG BLACK MEN COMMIT THE MAJORITY OF CRIMES. That's why they are in prison. Most of their victims are BLACK!!! If the black community wants to find the root cause of their inability to get their act together, just look in the mirror. The whites don't tell you to have bastard babies, the whites don't tell you no to show up for jobs, the whites don't tell you to commit crimes, the white don't tell you to act like uncivilized humans. The time is LONG overdue to get you heads out of your posteriors and get you act together. We're tired of paying for your welfare, school preferential treatment, preferential contract awards, preferential minority hiring programs, and all the rest. If it's a preferential program it means that someone else is being discriminated against. Got that???? As MLK said, "be judged by your character and not by the color of your skin". Get a grip. There's an old saying that states, "If you want respect, you have to earn it." Get busy and stop the constant whining, playing victim, and blaming everyone by yourselves for you plight. We're tired of it.

Suggest removal:

8walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

These kind of services make me laugh. Rev. Pounds says that it is crystal clear that "we" are still not free. If that is true, how did a "slave" rise up in these United States, become a US Senator, and get elected President twice? Last time I checked, doesn't Barry Soetoro qualify as a black man since he is at least 50% black?

Sorry, Reverend, there are no more excuses. Tell your flock to look in the mirror to find the cause and solution to their problems.

Suggest removal:

9YtownParent(324 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Instead of playing the race card and making it a focus of "our people" the good Rev. Pounds should have stated that slavery is still alive and well. The larger focus should have been on the scores of illegal slaves of all races that are trafficked and kept in this country today. Those people are not free.

Yes the black community is still discriminated against, but there is a marked difference between discrimination and slavery. Slaves have no access to the legal mechanisms to fight back and stand up for themselves. He would have done better to draw the distinction and challenge the discrimination. Like why do black first time nonviolent drug offenders go to prison and white ones go to drug court? Why are white couples with 5+ kids on welfare protected for exercising their catholic/evengelical beliefs against birth control while blacks are called lazy sluts. Those are discriminations, yes, but they are a far cry from the hell of the thousands of captured and held sex slaves and household servants of all races in this country today.

Suggest removal:

10commoncitizen(961 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Still not free????
What do the Reverends mean by "free"?? Getting everything for free and not work for it? That's working real well with the current President. Why should someone that works their a** off GIVE it to someone that doesn't WANT to work?? How much do each of these Reverends give of their OWN money back the their people?

Suggest removal:

11justanotherface(5 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Blacks are not "free"...? Please .... no one is "FREE" get over yourselves. if you want to really look at it who is really "Free"... the black people that are incarcerated are obviously there for a reason .. the white people that are incarcerated are obviously there for a reason... and all the other races that are there are incarcerated are obviously for a reason.... people do what they want when they want ... just like all the killings in youngstown its MOSTLY all black ... gang, hate, or just no reason for killing someone.. it is terrible .... they need to stop all of it and these little "GANGSTERS" need to give it up also ... Black people think their sh*t dont stink and bring this all on themselves ... so EVERYONE needs to get over it .. for christ sakes its 2014 ... the people that are not free are the gay americans .. AND NO I DO NOT WANT TO GET INTO THIS ON HERE thanks... just putting my OPINION out there ... have a good day....

Suggest removal:

12commoncitizen(961 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

OMG!!! gays aren't free??? They are free to take it up their a** whenever they want!!!!

Suggest removal:

13doubled(210 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

if someone breaks the law and is convicted, they go to prison, and rightly so, no matter their race. and yeah black guys commit a lot of crimes, and yeah people shouldn't have a bunch of kids if they don't have any way to support them,. I agree with all that. But after reading this article I figured the response would be quick and typical. I was right. having said that, and after reading the comments - made by the usual suspects, it's my opinion that almost every one who posted here is a complete dick. but robx may be the biggest of them all. blaming American slavery of blacks on blacks. nice try, dbag.

Suggest removal:

14IslandMike(752 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

I'm not naive enough to say the system is "fair" when whites are punished more leniently than African-Americans, but most crime is black on black. What ticks me off is how we de-criminalize white collar crime (Wall Street) and then give a crack head 20 years for an armed robbery he committed because he needed to support his disease (addiction). There is DEFINITELY a double standard when it comes to crime, but no one is stopping African-Americans from getting an education. The President is a Harvard alum and also African-American.

Excuses, unlike an education, need not be earned.

Suggest removal:

15newsmaker1(127 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Citizens, this article is a distraction from the truth, as far poverty goes, the bottom 5% in the USA is equal to the top 5% in India. These race-baiting, white guilt articles started with the womanizer Rev. Jackson and is featured by the great divider himself Barack Hussein Obama in every speech.
Dr. Ben Carson said Obamacare will be worst than slavery. Here's an accomplished man without a father who became a top Neurosurgeon.. Only in America. It was the greatest country in the world, until the unknowing commoners elected Obama.

Suggest removal:

16Ianacek(909 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

The President is only 1/16 black & is not the descendant of a slave . Michelle Obama is the authentic descendant of a slave .

The tone of most of the comments seems to confirm what the pastor's said . I realise people may feel justified in their prejudices , but prejudices they are . They carry these prejudices into every encounter they have with a black person & it leaves its trace , careful as they are to hide their prejudice .

The witheld or delayed assistance or word of gratitude or invitation to the neighborhood barbecue, the averted gaze ,the unconscious checking for one's wallet , the crossing to the other side of the road , the reference to "these" people etc . all send the subtle messages of exclusion. These are just some of the local behaviours I noticed as a white after reading "Black Like Me". Blacks have a different suite of prejudices . The prejudices feed off each other .

We didn't see a single Kwanzaa event downtown , yet other cultures appear welcomed .

Everybody , black & white , needs to step outside their comfort zones & their silos . Instead of waiting for "them" to change "their" behaviour, why not change "ours" ? Let's light a candle instead of cursing the darkness That's how we break down the prejudice that has been so expensive for America .

Suggest removal:

17Constructor(105 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

McNally in church.... really?

Suggest removal:

18Ianacek(909 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago


There's nothing imaginary about the examples I gave . They are from my experience as a spectator .
I've seen people do these things myself & explain or even boast of their motives for them to me afterward .

Suggest removal:

19formerdemliberal(182 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Rev. Pounds:

Perhaps you should read this article written by a fellow African-American.


Here's a couple of statistics stated in the article that perhaps Rev. Pounds may not aware of (and maybe doesn't want to be aware of to further his own self-imposed "leadership" role in the black community).

"Each year, roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered. Ninety-four percent of the time, the murderer is another black person."

"According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims. Using the 94 percent figure means that 262,621 were murdered by other blacks. Though blacks are 13 percent of the nation's population, they account for more than 50 percent of homicide victims. Nationally, black homicide victimization rate is six times that of whites, and in some cities, it's 22 times that of whites. Coupled with being most of the nation's homicide victims, blacks are most of the victims of violent personal crimes, such as assault and robbery."

Black leaders long-time community involvement model apparently hasn't exactly worked well in the past, has it Rev. Pounds? Appears yours and other pastor initiatives have fallen on many deaf ears despite your self-appointed designations as black community leaders.

You and your fellow pastors can keep living in your dream worlds about being oppressed while those among your congregations continue to suffer and die from crimes committed by members of your own flocks.

Suggest removal:

20dateline111(41 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Blacks must stop voting 99% democrat
So called Black Youngstown clergy need to apply and teach their congregations basic biblical principles
2nd Corinthians 5: Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Stop all this slavery talk, reparations, Jesse, Al and T.D are making millions selling dumb negroes to the democratic party who are killing are black babies and making sissies and dikes out of blacks!

Suggest removal:

21ytownsteelman(628 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

There were no Kwanza celebrations downtown because those who celebrate it decided not to hold any. All of the downtown events are put on by people who work damn hard to organize them, they just don't happen. Work with the downtown events coordinator to schedule a date, then work your butt off for a year to put on a successful event. That is how its done.

Knowing what I know about the crime rate in Youngstown and the demographics of the perpetrators, I will of course keep a wary eye toward any young black male that I encounter. To not do so would be irresponsible. Want to change that? Then stop committing crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suggest removal:

22Silence_Dogood(1342 comments)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Ianacik what racist stated the following, "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.... After all we have been through. Just to think we can't walk down our own streets, how humiliating."
I will give you a clue, he is a Reverend with a bastard child that was born to one of his many mistresses. Also his Son is a convicted felon who stole campaign contributions to buy expensive jewelry for his mistress (like father,like son).

Suggest removal:

23contour96(1 comment)posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

I say we's free we's free now mo than eva. Give God da glory!

Suggest removal:

24Attis(879 comments)posted 8 months, 2 weeks ago

How ironic that this gathering proclaiming emaciated emancipation of Blacks in America took place as one Black thug (Larry Johnson) was beating a mother to death in Youngstown and two other Black thugs (Deon and Eric Hendon) shot four persons in their Barberton home, killing three of them. The four victims, including two teens, were "free at last", never to breathe again thanks to institutionalized freedoms to create murderers.

Suggest removal:

25HSG(123 comments)posted 8 months, 2 weeks ago

I heard the producer of the film "Twelve YEars A Slave" say recently that he hopes that the film helps to engender a national dialogue on slavery.

Young people know as little/much about Slavery as an institution in the US as they do most other topics, sad to say.

What people are upset with is the entitlement culture which enables some people to have constant and continuous access to 'government programs' which others NEVER USE It is not particularly difficult to understand why this creates resentment and hostility.

The real unfortunates here are those who are lumped in with the systemic abusers, those who pay tax, (heavy tax at points), vote, attend church, work every day, and behave as dedicated citizens.

The reverend's remarks DO belie the simple fact that the US has progressed to the point where a black man can be elected president, two times 4 years apart, with the majority of white votes cast for him. Race has become MUCH MORE of a local issue, FAR LESS part of the national dialogue.

Suggest removal:

26L0L(660 comments)posted 8 months, 2 weeks ago

-Incarceration- Could it be that blacks commit more crimes therefore there are more blacks incarcerated?

-Unemployment- If you want equality then limit the number of people on welfare by race. If so many whites are on welfare then thats how many blacks can be on welfare. But im sure that wouldnt be fair if we had to deny blacks welfare because there were only so many whites on it.

-The trending theme in these posts seems to be the same. Personal responsibility. Instead of blaming someone else do something to better your situation. I know people of all races who have bettered themselves despite their circumstances. Its called personal responsibiltity.

-@ DaddyD, One last thought. You mention the black man buys their drugs and guns from the white man. Are you insinuating that there are no black drug dealers or gun salesmen? Maybe thats why they're incarcerated? Selling dope or guns? Shooting their own brothers? Don't point the finger but instead make a positive change. Volunteer and do something to make a change in your race.

Suggest removal:

27Askmeificare(700 comments)posted 8 months, 2 weeks ago

UH, did I see in the photograph of this article, Mcnally was in church?

Shouldn't that warrant a news briefing in and of itself?

Suggest removal:

28prodigy37(2 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

OMG......REALLY.. I am so tired of the race card being thrown..Slavery was a thing of the past the long long ago past.Get the F**k over it.. First of all everyone has the freedom to make their own choices white,black.purple,green, IDGAF what color you are. If you choose to rob,steal,murder,and slang dope then yeah incarcerated is exactly where the punks need to be and there are as many whites as blacks incarcerated so dont give me that boo hoo story oh were still not free.If you feel your not free GTF out of this country..Always wanted something handed to ya'll and if you dont get youcry racist.Well there is just as many racist black people as their are whites.Live in the here and now not in the past and look towards the future and make it much better whites are no different then blacks we all bleed the same so all you racist people need to grow up and STFU and maybe this world can learn to love eachother and become a better place when you all realize it has nothing to do with skin color.For Damn Sakes its just a COLOR...

Suggest removal:

29prodigy37(2 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

Rasicm is a vicous neverending cycle. This is what racist people teach their children skin color..Well its not about skin color. if this world would just come together and break that cycle and teach their children to love eachother for who they are not for their skin color. This world would be a more happier place. Their is nothing I cant stand more then rasicm. It is stupid and ridiculous..We are all the same inside.. We are all human. Change the world for our youth so they can have a better place to grow up and live..Quit crying about slavery and being free and start doing something positive to change yourself..SMDH..

Suggest removal:

30Repubs4theRich(124 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

I don't think fool asked for your name, but what you do for a living. That is hardly identifying yourself. I'm calling B.S.

Suggest removal:

31Repubs4theRich(124 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

That is pretty specific. I am an employee.

Suggest removal:

32Repubs4theRich(124 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

JS, are we talking about racism in life, or politics, racism in politics, or the difference between racism and politics? Your comments are confusing. So you believe, in every day life, that there isn't much racism at all. Is that your stance?

Suggest removal:

33Repubs4theRich(124 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

Is your name JS? Then hush.

Suggest removal:

34westcomm11(23 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

Buy a police scanner and count how many times you hear Male black in a 24 hour period ,
and you black people want to be felt sorry for ,take a look at your own people.

Suggest removal:

35cmaglaughlin(1 comment)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

In "honor" of the "Reverend" Martin Luther King, who, by the way, must have found it very difficult to preach on Christmas and Easter due to the fact that he did NOT believe in the deity of Christ or His bodily resurrection...let's hip-hop to what Dr. Bill Cosby has to say concerning the state of the black community.... "They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: "Why you ain't, Where you is, What he drive,Where he stay, Where he work, Who you be..." And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk.Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living. People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.They are buying things for kids. $500 sneakers for what? And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics. I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was 2? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol? And where is the father? Or who is his father? People putting their clothes on backward: Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong? People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something? Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body? What part of Africa did this come from?? We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa ..... I say this all of the time. It would be like white people saying they are European-American. That is totally stupid. I was born here, and so were my parents and grand parents and, very likely my great grandparents. I don't have any connection to Africa, no more than white Americans have to Germany , Scotland , England , Ireland or the Netherlands . The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans as regards to Africa . So stop, already! ! ! With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap ..... And all of them are in jail.We have got to take the neighborhood back. People used to be ashamed.Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' -- or men or whatever you call them now. We have millionaire football players who cannot read. We have million-dollar
basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks have to do a better job.
Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us. We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.. We cannot blame the white people any longer." - Dr.. William Henry 'Bill' Cosby, Jr., Ed..D.

Suggest removal:

36steelwagon(284 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

The medical tech who works for my doctor is an African American.
She and her husband are raising their 4 children.
The two older kids are in college earning degrees.

The two younger kids go to school and are involved in the Inspiering minds and other after school programs.
Last year on take your child to work day I met one of the young kids.

The young lady I met was very bright,respectful and as smart as a whip.
Without a doubt this young lady will accomplish her goals and be a great success at whatever she does in her life.

We had a wonderful conversation and she was a true pleasure to talk to.
How and why you ask.....
A two parent home where mom and dad know where their kids are,what they are doing and who they are with.

High standards have always been expected of their children and mom and dad will settle for nothing less.

Yeah how novel personel responsibility all the way around.
That system works in all races imagine that !!

Suggest removal:

37Repubs4theRich(124 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

As it has been said over and over, it is a matter of parenting and personal choices, PERIOD!

Suggest removal:

38kurtw(848 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

Good comment, Steelwagon. You might be describing the Obama's. Same Formula- Married Couple. Parental Responsibility, stress on Education, etc.etc.

Anybody who follows that formula- regardless of race- most likely will do well because that's the way life works. I know plenty of middle class black people doing a good job raising their families who got where they are by practicing it.

On the other hand, I know lot's of white's who are complete F---ups- screwing up their own lives and the lives of their children- by not choosing to follow the Formula: Married Couple- Parental Responsibility- Stress on Education, etc. It's not that complicated: it starts with getting an education and finding a job that pays decently. Isn't that what the Obama's and other successful black couples did?

Those are good role models for black people to follow- good role models for anybody to follow.

Suggest removal:

39kurtw(848 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

I just read in post#64 the complete Cosby statement- never had before only snippets. Wow! That is well said. Applies to everybody really- a lot of young white people as well handicap themselves the same way- the way they act, the way they dress, the way they talk- make them virtually unemployable.

Lives ruined- talents wasted- by embracing the wrong attitudes. Bill is a pretty good role model for all us- black or white.

Suggest removal:

40walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

Cosby speaks of some obvious truths. First, if an individual has any desire to be successful in these United States, they must be able to read, write and SPEAK the English language correctly. I worked with an older gentleman 30 years ago who told me that if one does not master the English language, they are doomed to stay in their ghetto, be it a black ghetto, Polish, Irish, Italian, etc. Those that came from overseas that never learned English could not function outside of their neighborhoods unless helped by someone else.

Second, shame is dead in this country. When I was a kid, we were expected to behave in a certain way whether our parents were by us or not. In school, the teacher was to be respected as if they were a proxy for the parents. So, you would go to school, not get in trouble, get good grades, and make something of yourself. It was big news if a girl became pregnant as they disappeared for a while as they brought shame on to the family. Now, these kids are held up as a badge of honor for these kids and leach off the govt because "you can't blame the kids!"

Keep embracing the victim mentality and you will never get anywhere in this life!

Suggest removal:

41donfun(23 comments)posted 8 months, 1 week ago

I don't agree---I am black and I am free. I'm not rich, living in a huge home or anything big only because I haven't done all that I need to do to get there. No one has stopped me but myself. It's all about accepting responsibility for your downfalls and gains.

Suggest removal:


HomeTerms of UsePrivacy StatementAdvertiseStaff DirectoryHelp
© 2014 Vindy.com. All rights reserved. A service of The Vindicator.
107 Vindicator Square. Youngstown, OH 44503

Phone Main: 330.747.1471 • Interactive Advertising: 330.740.2955 • Classified Advertising: 330.746.6565
Sponsored Links: Vindy Wheels | Vindy Jobs | Vindy Homes | Pittsburgh International Airport