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Report: 40% of Ohio grads need developmental courses in college



Published: Fri, February 7, 2014 @ 12:10 a.m.

Even students from top Valley schools need developmental courses, data show

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By Denise Dick

denise_dick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Even students from high-performing schools and districts in the Mahoning Valley took developmental math and English courses their first year of college, an Ohio Board of Regents report shows.

The recent report is for the state’s 2012 high school graduates. It shows that statewide, 40 percent of students entering college for the first time took developmental courses in either of the two core courses at a public university or community college.

Beginning this fall, Youngstown State University will no longer accept all students who apply, but it will remain an open-access university. President Randy J. Dunn said 50 percent to 60 percent of incoming freshmen need developmental courses. Since YSU will remain an open-access institution, that number is expected to remain high.

The university, though, is well positioned to support those students, Dunn said.

The Center for Student Progress offers tutoring, peer mentoring, intervention and a summer bridge program to help prepare students for college and college life.

More students are going to college now than in years past, so it stands to reason that if the overall number is higher, then the number in need of developmental coursework also would be higher, he said.

Ohio’s colleges and universities have to work with the state’s education systems for kindergarten through 12th grade to make improvements, Dunn said.

“Coming from K to 12, I’m not one who’s going to blame it on K to 12,” said Dunn, a former state superintendent in Illinois.

Of Youngstown City Schools students entering college for the first time, 58 percent needed developmental math, 47 percent needed developmental English and 36 percent needed both.

Douglas Hiscox, deputy superintendent for academic affairs, said the city district is working to increase its number of graduates and reduce the number of those who need to take the additional classes, but it’s something that will take time.

“At the high school, all of our curriculum is based on the Common Core [State Standards],” he said. “The Common Core was written across all content areas. There’s more reading and writing required in every subject area, but that’s going to take some time to matriculate through to graduation and into the colleges.”

Common Core establishes standards aimed at ensuring students are prepared to enter post-secondary education or the workforce.

The district rewrote the math curriculum to include Common Core.

“It’s much more project-based in its type of instruction,” Hiscox said. “The students have to learn to come up with the answers. The answers aren’t given to them.”

Changes to improve math and English skills have been implemented in the lower grades, too.

The changes will take time to produce results, though, the deputy superintendent said.

The Diocese of Youngs-town operates Cardinal Mooney and Ursuline high schools in Youngstown and John F. Kennedy High School in Warren.

The report shows that of Mooney and Ursuline first-time college students, 46 percent needed developmental math, 28 percent needed developmental English and 20 percent needed both.

At JFK, 36 percent needed developmental math, 15 percent needed developmental English and 10 percent needed both.

Nicholas Wolsonovich, diocesan superintendent of schools, points out that the standards triggering those developmental courses vary from one institution to another.

A student who may be required to take a developmental course at one university may not have to at a different institution.

“Our students do very well in terms of ACT and other tests — they’re above the state and national average,” Wolsonovich said. “They do extremely well on the OGT [Ohio Graduation Test]. For them to say they’re not ready for college doesn’t make sense.”

If a student enters a public or private kindergarten unprepared, those schools develop programs and resources to aid those students, Wolsonovich said. Diocesan schools offer intervention to help students who are experiencing difficulty in classes or performing below standards to provide them assistance.

“It’s difficult to respond to a study that’s seemingly unscientific because there are so many different standards embedded in it,” Wolsonovich said.

Of Austintown’s first-time college students in 2012, 30 percent needed developmental math; 32 percent, developmental English; and 16 percent, both.

Superintendent Vince Colaluca said the district has been focused on graduating students who are prepared for college or careers. The numbers in the board of regents report may be attributable to the fact that some students don’t decide until well into high school that they want to go to college, so they’re late in taking the courses to prepare them for it.

Still, the data provide something for the district to reflect back and try to improve upon, he said.

“We can always get better,” Colaluca said.


Comments

1repeaters(221 comments)posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago

The moral of the story is," you keep passing those levies, and the school boards will tell you everything positive that you want to hear." See, in order to hear 'good news', you have to pay for it; nothing is free.

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2HSG(139 comments)posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago

Randy dun wants t string students along, longer, since enrollment is down. This is a shell game practiced by Ysu for over 25 years now.

1- 'accept' everybody who can properly grip a #2 pencil
2- make everyone take an entrance exam which many 'fail,'
3-require the ACT but ignore the results
4-stagger course offerings so that a five or six year undergrad tenure is the minimum,@ $3700/semester. The 4 year degree has gone the way of the model T.

Except for a very few, an undergraduate degree is a pretty marginal investment. Places like ysu do very little to promote the idea that it's worth a lifetime of debt to walk around with one of their alumni cards in your wallet, but not much else.

The real tragedy is that most of the 'developmental' courses are taught by local high school teachers, the same people who taught (!) the ill prepared students in the first place! Or, in some cases, ysu hires people to teach math who don't speak standard, fluent English. That's one reason enrollment is down. The high school teachers and low English proficient teachers SHOULD be at east gate community college, where students might actually benefit from their 'level' of instruction.

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3uptowngirl(116 comments)posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago

HSG is right about the shell game. The 40% requiring remediation are the 40% who do not belong in college to begin with.

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4billdog1(1804 comments)posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago

Is Mr. Wolsonovich trying to say YSU's standards are to high for the dioceses students? Please!!!

Uptowngirl you are right on target. The reality is about 30% of the population has BA/BA or higher. Only 37% students that enter higher education ever finish. YSU isn't unique in using an entrance exam when going to their institution. Until the last 5 years nearly all across the country did. The reality is if everybody had a BA/BS degree they would be pretty useless. The other problem is a BA in history, psychology, sociology, performing arts, English, etc... is also pretty useless. So if you have a degree that has no license, don't cry you can't get a job with a degree that isn't needed for anything. Those degrees were designed for a select few that parents required them to get educated, but didn't plan on working. Don't believe the lie that America is under educated from most of the world. Most of the world doesn't educate its people beyond basic math, marginal writing skills and basic language mastery. If the individual don't grasp it in their development, it becomes time to work, period. That tends to happen around our equivalent of 9-10th grades. If think it is so great elsewhere, please go live there.

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5hurrdurr(98 comments)posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago

What a horror show. A good of a measuring stick as any out there though. Funny the Vindy didn't include Columbiana County. The holier than thou bumpkins really didn't do so hot compared to the rest of the valley.

https://www.ohiohighered.org/sites/oh...

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6JoeFromHubbard(1115 comments)posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago

If 40% require remedial education, what about the 60% who do not?

They supposedly came through the same high school systems without the need for remediation.

It wouldn't have something to do with the parents and students themselves, would it?

I find it hard to believe that the public school system is under performing to the extent implied.

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7billdog1(1804 comments)posted 10 months, 2 weeks ago

JoeFromHubbard, your right on brother. Most these Cats can't see the forest for the trees man. What is really amazing is regardless of the circumstance it all comes down to the individual doing the work to get what they feel they need. To many that are able to be successful in higher education don't have the motivation to maneuver through the process for four years. Simply because they are lazy, or pot heads, or drunkards, or some other defect of their character, and we have to many safety nets for them. Some people are comfortable having only the necessities and minimal luxuries as long as they don't have to do anything to get it. Sad, just sad.

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8iBuck(226 comments)posted 10 months, 1 week ago

I'm certainly impressed by the educationism establishment's ability to hatch new, euphemistic buzz-words, though: "developmental".

Teachers need the pre-tests to see each student's profile of strengths and weaknesses, areas where one is ahead and areas where he is behind, to be able to fill in and build up the foundations for continuing learning.

So, what do these students who need the remedial work look like when other correlations are run? or would that not be peeeeceeeee for those paying the bills to know?

Oh well, at least the teachers and admins weren't caught cheating as many were in Atlanta a few years back, and more recently in Philadelphia.

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