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Youngstown council endorses opposition to 'Stand Your Ground'

Published: Thu, September 19, 2013 @ 12:09 a.m.


By David Skolnick



City council voted to support a resolution that opposes a proposed Stand Your Ground law in Ohio and a congressional bill for national reciprocity for concealed-carry handgun permits.

The Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative, a local community group that advocates for issues related to racial, social and economic justice, had urged council to support the resolution.

Council unanimously voted 7-0 Wednesday in support.

“Current state laws give homeowners more than enough protection,” said Councilman Nate Pinkard, D-3rd, chairman of council’s safety committee and a retired Mill Creek Metro-Parks police chief.

Youngstown is the latest in the state to pass similar resolutions against this resolution joining Cincinnati, Toledo, Dayton and South Euclid.

MVOC organizer Allan Irizarry-Graves said after the vote the proposed state bill to expand Stand Your Ground targets “young minority males” such as him.

“If I’m walking around my neighborhood on the North Side and someone sees me and feels threatened, they can shoot as they please,” said Irizarry-Graves, who is black.

The issue comes after the acquittal of George Zimmerman in July of second-degree murder and manslaughter during a high-profile case in Florida that raised questions about that state’s Stand Your Ground law.

The law permits people to use deadly force when they believe there is a perceived threat.

Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, fatally shot Trayvon Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old black male, on Feb. 26, 2012, contending he felt threatened. His defense didn’t use the law in winning his acquittal, however.

The Ohio Legislature is considering a bill to expand situations that would permit people to use deadly force.

“There’s enough gun violence every day,” and there’s no need to expand the law, Pinkard said.

In other matters, council failed to approve legislation by emergency measure to authorize the administration to seek proposals from firms to redistrict the city’s seven wards.

The vote was 5-2 in favor of the proposal. But for legislation to be approved by an emergency vote, at least six members of council must support it.

The two no votes came from Councilmen Mike Ray, D-4th, and Paul Drennen, D-5th, who said they were satisfied with the redistricting maps provided by Youngstown State University’s Center for Urban and Regional Studies.

Council will need to take three votes at three separate meetings to approve the legislation.


1NoBS(2845 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

There are two issues here - Stand Your Ground and national reciprocity. The second one is being swept under the rug as if it's part of the first. It's not - this is just another example of how the gun-haters try to flim-flam the public. If my driver's license is valid in all 50 states, why isn't my CCW legal in all 50 states?

Now, I like how city council is quick to jump on the anti-gun bandwagon and restrict the rights of honest people (because the thugs don't obey the laws anyway), but it's literally been YEARS since they started trying to streamline their own bloated entity, and they still can't get past the talking stage.

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2ytownsteelman(680 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

Southside Res, I believe that Knightcap was being sarcastic. Have another cup of coffee. You must still be asleep.

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3excel(1312 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

Guns on the streets are the problem and not the answer!


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4Jive_Turkey(32 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

This media-driven fear is getting out of hand.

You hear one story over the course of a year where a teenager is killed, and we don't know the facts, and all of a sudden anyone who carries a firearm is considered dangerous? (In reference to G.Z.... But nobody heard about the 3 black teens illegally carrying a firearm who gunned down a white teenager while he was jogging around the block http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/... )

Here's an idea. Instead of creating new laws time and time again, start enforcing the current laws you have in place. It would be much more efficient and undoubtedly more effective at curbing these brazen acts of violence.

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5redeye1(5679 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

Well this just gives my family and myself another reason to stay away from Thugstown Ohio. If they thought by getting on the band wagon and voting against stand your ground laws, that that will increase tourism they are mistakenly wrong. All you really have to do is look at the council members who voted for this . My guess is they are the black demoncrats. Mr. Pinkard said it best, there is enough gun violence already in Thugstown. Who's committing all of this gun violence mostly blacks! That's who

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