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Youngstown council to vote on resolution in opposition to Ohio adopting a Stand Your Ground law

Published: Tue, September 17, 2013 @ 12:05 a.m.

By David Skolnick



City council will consider a resolution Wednesday in “strong opposition” to a Stand Your Ground law in Ohio and to a federal proposal for national reciprocity for concealed-carry handgun permits.

The resolution comes after the acquittal of George Zimmerman in July of second-degree murder and manslaughter during a high-profile case that raised questions about Florida’s Stand Your Ground law. The law allows people to use deadly force when they believe there is a perceived threat.

Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old male, on Feb. 26, 2012, contending he felt threatened, but his defense never used the law in his successful defense.

There is a bill in the Ohio General Assembly that would expand the situations in which a person wouldn’t need to retreat before using deadly force. Also, Congress is considering legislation that would permit a person with a concealed-carry permit in one state to have that right when traveling to other states. The House passed a bill last year in support of it by a vote of 272 to 154.

“The basis of self-defense in Ohio has worked for years, and I don’t think we need any more teeth,” said Councilman Nate Pinkard, D-3rd, who is chairman of the legislative body’s safety committee, a retired Mill Creek MetroParks police chief and one of the main forces backing the resolution.

“Also, I am not opposed to concealed-carry laws, but it should be a state’s right and not a federal law” to honor reciprocity, he said. “I’m comfortable with Ohio law on concealed carry, but other states are not as stringent as Ohio. This is a resolution telling our state Legislature that we are opposed to this.”

Councilman John R. Swierz, D-7th, who serves on the safety committee, said, “There’s a movement across the county against Stand Your Ground. We should not go down that path, and council will go on record that we don’t want to go down that path.”

Councilwoman Janet Tarpley, D-6th, said the Stand Your Ground law is too broad.

“It allows people to react how they feel and not necessarily by fact,” she said. “You have to have certain things in place to defend yourself like you see a gun. Stand Your Ground is too open to perception and not reality.”

Councilman Mike Ray, D-4th, said Stand Your Ground “is a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist. I’m not anti-gun. I support reasonable legislation, but this isn’t.”


1ytownsteelman(674 comments)posted 2 years, 2 months ago

Here is city council, who has control over a police department that is not around when you need them, telling us residents that we shouldn't defend ourselves. We the people who own property in this lawless land known as Youngstown need every legal protection we can get as we do daily battle with the parasites who would take it all away from us.

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2steelwagon(284 comments)posted 2 years, 2 months ago

If I catch you trying to break into my shop I'll give you one chance to surrender,lay down on the ground and wait for the police.

If you attempt to enter my home you're dead.
You will also not rob or in anyway accost me on the street.
The instant you threaten me ,my family with harm in anyway ,shape or form you will be shot where you stand.

I'm a law abiding citizen,I bother or pose no threat to anyone and neither myself or a family member is going to become a victim of street or domestic crime as we have the means of selfdefense and if need be willing to trust a jury of our peers.

The govt.can make or change all the gun laws,selfdefense laws they want.
Nothing the laws says will change the way I react should my life or the life of a family member come under threat.
I think most law abiding citizens feel the same way.

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3redeye1(5351 comments)posted 2 years, 2 months ago

Steelwagon GREAT POST!!!! I totally agree with it. These council people get priority when it comes to which police call the police go to first. If its you or me and a council member who do you think will get the police first? Not you or me that's for sure. I'm sick of all liberturds telling me how to protect ourselves. Maybe its time now to vote in quite a few GOP candidates What do you think?

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4DSquared(1566 comments)posted 2 years, 2 months ago

Steelwagon for Crime Czar!

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5endthismess(422 comments)posted 2 years, 2 months ago

Steelwagon....right on the money...I agree.

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