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GOP’s opposition to Obamacare would not shut the government



Published: Fri, September 6, 2013 @ 12:00 a.m.

GOP’s opposition to Obamacare would not shut the government

On a recent opinion page, The Vindicator’s editors opined that U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio and others’ efforts to shut down Obama-care by not funding it would be bad for the economic recovery (if one dares call it that) because of the government shutdown that would result.

Put aside, for a moment, why they think a temporary shutdown of government would be bad for the economy. Ask yourself why shouldn’t the Republicans use every legal avenue available to them to kill a law that they don’t like? The Democrats used every legal trick in the book to pass it.

They said that Rubio is using this opportunity to score political points after the GOP lost the 2012 election, overlooking the fact that the House Republicans didn’t lose the election; they retained their majority in the House.

If the editors are saying that the country wants Obamacare because they re-elected the president, it is just as valid to say that they don’t support it because they gave the House to the Republicans.

Everyone understands that there is not enough money to fund everything the government does; that’s why we run huge deficits every year. So why would anyone be surprised that, when cuts are necessary, the Republicans cut a law that they think was passed by deceit and is bad for the country.

The Vindicator’s editors should understand this. All spending originates in the House of Representatives, and though the House Republicans may not have enough votes to pass everything they would like, they do have enough votes to say “no” to something they don’t like.

If they authorize spending for every other function of government but Obamacare, that doesn’t constitute shutting down the government. If the Republicans send the Senate a bill completely funding government minus Obamacare, and the Democrats in the Senate don’t pass it, they will be the ones who have opted to shut down government simply because they didn’t get everything they want.

To sum it up, the only thing that can be truthfully said is that the Republicans will fund everything but Obamacare, and the Democrats won’t fund anything unless Obamacare is funded. So who is shutting down government?

Daniel Moadus, Girard


Comments

1thediffrence(13 comments)posted 10 months, 3 weeks ago

LOL Alright Daniel there are so many things wrong with this letter where to start. Well for one your logic on the republicans winning the house means people don't want the ACA. Republicans lost the vote for the house by over 1.5 million across the country. More voted for democrats than repubicans yet republicans maintained control because of republican "deceit" and gerrymandered districts. Obama won both elections with more than 50% of the vote. SO the people spoke both ways.
SECOND, you pass off shutting down the government like its no big deal. Typical of republicans who live in their own myth land they call reality.
3rd, you think the minorty rules because they have control of 1 house. Compromise is not in your vocabulary. Typical Tea Party Bull pucky.
4th There is plenty of money to fund the government if the tax system that is giving billions away to corporation and the rich was reset the way it was before Republicans took over in 2001. Remember we had huge surpluses that if you are a fiscal conservative you would have used that to pay down the debt not give it to the rich. In the 1950's corporate taxes accounted for over 40% of the federal revenue today it is less than 9%. Get corporate tax back to that level and there are no problems.
5, the senate will pass it but they will put the funding back in it for the ACA and then send it back to the house. The ACA is MANDATORY and saves money and lives. You believe the lies it makes you feel so much better.
6. The debt ceiling is about paying the bills congress and that means you republicans, have already rung up like the wars and budget deficits of over a trillion dollars you left in 2008 with a crashed economy. I could go on but your not worth it.

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2Jerry(487 comments)posted 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Since it is the Congress, and primarily the House of Representatives, that controls the purse strings; let’s take a look at the history.

In 1995, a group of conservative representatives gained control of the House, and this began the much touted era of economic recovery and real deficit reduction; when President Clinton was forced (kicking and screaming) to agree to fiscally responsible government.

In 2001 the USA was attacked, due in no small part to a prior decade of executive inattention to military and national security issues. Deficit spending returned due to military expenditures and expanding domestic spending; but even then, the deficits were modest in comparison to today’s out-of-control fiscal lunacy.

In 2007, the House and Senate were returned to the control of progressive/liberals; and everything turned to “bull pucky” in 2008.

BTW - I am not a Republican or a Democrat. In general neither of these parties are conservative enough.

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3thediffrence(13 comments)posted 10 months, 3 weeks ago

OK seriously look at what happened in the CLinton years. He didn't come kicking and screaming it was the tax hikes that he and congress inacted that ended the deficit and started a surplus. Republicans came into power because of a backlash over that policy which was proven to work and it wasn't changed when they got the house in the 90's. It was change only AFTER they got the house and Senate with Bush and then they destroyed the budget and the economy.

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4cathylukasko(116 comments)posted 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Sadly the DIFFERENCE lives in the fantasy LIBERAL world and can only justify his response by name calling. This proves that you have won an argument with a Liberal when they name call. Liberals want the "nanny state" and entitlements. Obamacare should be DEFUNDED because it adds TRILLIONS to the US DEBT. Unlike what OBAMA stated when he said "it will NOT add a dime" to the defecit.

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5thediffrence(13 comments)posted 10 months, 3 weeks ago

The titles that are called out are well earned Cathy and you know it. The facts pointed out in my comments proves I'm right not the color commentary added for amuzment. THE ACA is the first step to real health care and a single payer system like in Canada which is far more advanced in delivering health care to the peope in need than this profit motive selfish system we have and you know it. It's not adding to the debt its saving money and that is a fact. THe CBO has already shown the data and like everything else you and your kind deny the facts to suit your insane ideology. Hey Cathy got a question for you, are you your brother's and sister's keeper? The only nanny state is republican rule. They stop health care and tell women what is good for them They sponser state rape after the women has been raped and seeks an abortion. They cut education, pass voter suppression laws becaus ethey don't want people to vote they want to be the people's nanny and tell them how to live.

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