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Why doesn’t YSU play MAC football teams?

Published: Sun, September 1, 2013 @ 12:08 a.m.

By Joe Scalzo



The strangest thing about Youngstown State’s football opener wasn’t that it took place on a Thursday night or that it wasn’t against a BCS program.

The strangest thing was this: the Penguins’ opponent was from Ohio.

From 2004-12, YSU played 32 teams from 21 different states. But since their series with Kent State ended in 2003, just three of those teams have been from Ohio: Ohio State (in 2007-08), Central State (2008) and Dayton (2013).

And for that, you can either thank, or blame, the Mid-American Conference. Nearly two decades after keeping Youngstown State out of the MAC, the MAC is content to stay out of Youngstown.

“Our ADs [athletic directors] agreed several years ago to have parameters in non-conference scheduling to play more peer conferences and limit FCS opponents to only home games,” wrote Ken Mather, the MAC’s media relations director, via email.

That’s a deal-breaker for YSU athletic director Ron Strollo, whose school hasn’t hosted a MAC team since 1997, when the Penguins beat Kent State.

“They created that policy and I think it goes back to when I took over as athletic director,” said Strollo, who replaced Jim Tressel as AD in 2001. “It’s disappointing because it obviously eliminated some of the rivalries our fans really enjoyed.

“I don’t know the reasoning behind it but it’s been awhile since we tried. Obviously, we would love to see those games on our schedule.”

YSU — which tried to get in the MAC in the late 1990s, only to be rejected in favor of Marshall and Buffalo — has a winning record against Kent State (6-4) and Akron (19-14-2), which are both located within 50 miles of Youngstown. (By contrast, the closest team to Youngstown in the Missouri Valley Football Conference is Indiana State, which is more than 400 miles away).

Because YSU competes with Akron and Kent for recruits, Strollo doesn’t want to schedule only road games with those schools, believing it sends a message that the Penguins are a lesser program. Ohio has the second-most FBS schools in the nation (eight) but six of those are in the MAC: Akron, Bowling Green, Kent, Miami, Ohio and Toledo.

In Strollo’s mind, only two Ohio schools are clearly superior to YSU.

“It’s Ohio State and Cincinnati and the rest of them,” he said. “I think as you look at the Mid-American Conference, I don’t know if we would schedule them any different than any other non-BCS school.”

(Note: Thanks to the dissolution of the Big East, at least as a football conference, Cincinnati no longer has a BCS affiliation.)

In January, Devin Crosby was hired as Kent State’s deputy athletic director, where he supervises the football and basketball programs. Before that, he spent two years at FCS-member Towson, where he tried (and failed) to schedule home games against FBS schools.

“We tried two-for-one [two road games for one home game], three-for-one and even adding other sports to try to make the pie even sweeter,” Crosby said. “Unfortunately, at FBS schools, it’s not the policy to try to make FCS schools happy.

“I don’t know if I have an opinion on whether this is a good thing or a bad thing, but I’d say quite often FBS conferences are going to do what they can to make sure they’re building a brand for their member institutions.”

While Akron did not respond to a request to comment for this article, Crosby said Kent would be interested in resuming its series with YSU.

“It makes a lot of sense,” he said. “Regionally, it’s a very attractive game.”

MAC schools typically host one FCS program each year — Kent played Liberty on Thursday, while Akron will play James Madison in Week 2 — and while Crosby declined to say how much they pay opposing FCS teams, Strollo said the figure is usually around $200,000.

Since YSU typically generates between $150,000 and $200,000 for a home game, “it’s a net wash,” Strollo said.

And, Strollo said, the FCS playoff committee isn’t all that impressed with wins over MAC schools, particularly the bad ones.

While beating Akron would obviously carry more weight than a win over Dayton or Morehead State (both non-scholarship FCS schools), the Zips were just the 169th-best team in college football in 2012 according to USA Today’s Sagarin Ratings. That put them behind all but two MVFC teams.

Still, YSU’s fans aren’t the only ones who would like to see some MAC teams on the schedule. YSU football coach Eric Wolford, who spent most of his career as an assistant at the FBS level, believes the best way to show his program is as good as the MAC schools is on the scoreboard.

And if he can lighten their wallets in the process, so much the better.

“That’s something that may happen,” Wolford said. “If the price is right, I’ll do it. That’s the name of the game.

“A road trip to a MAC school is much easier than a road trip to the Missouri Valley.”


1usaebxs8(19 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

The top of the mvfc is better than the top of the mac. Period. The Mixx beat 2 big 12 schools on opening weekend and a 3rd mvfc team nearly beat a Big ten team

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2taxme(361 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

I agree with arod^
Miami, Kent, Bowling Green, Ohio are a cut above YSU right now. other than Basketball I don't think they can compete with them.

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3valleyred(1103 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

TaxMe, Kent used a Colin Reardon TD pass late in the 4th quarter to squeak by FCS Liberty on Thursday 17-10. Kent had one great season in 20 years and they look to be back to their mediocre form.

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4Spiderlegs(161 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

YSU needs to get rid of this fascination with the lowly MAC and recognize the new normal in college football. Top MVFC teams are playing at the level of the Big 12 now, and YSU is not keeping pace. Wolford & Co. need to wake up.

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5papa1(711 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

pretty soon there will be no huge paydays from elite college teams as they will no longer schedule lower division schools. and that's why, although it would be great to see ysu play mac schools, they are now chasing the opportunity to play them. however, it seems that when ysu does play a mac school they play bottom tier teams like kent and akron. I would rather see them play Toledo, bowling green, ohio university, or Miami. then we'll see how they stack up. judging on Thursday nights performance I would say not very well at this time. I know wolford likes to let his mouth get ahead of this brain but he better be careful of what he wishes for, if, that is, he's still there when and if it happens.

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6ysupenguins_com(108 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

Why would we ever agree to ANY game with a MAC school that is not reciprocated? That is completely intolerable to me.

BTW: OU and Kent will be basement dwellers this year. Both lost successful HC's and one lost a good DC by the name of Heacock.

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