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Welcome to Youngstown: It’s still Mississippi, circa 1950, here



Published: Sun, October 6, 2013 @ 12:00 a.m.

Welcome to Youngstown: It’s still Mississippi, circa 1950, here

Concerning Bertram de Souza’s column last Sunday about Democratic Party Chairman David Betras and charges of racism leveled at him: Are you kidding me?

In a city where the election of a black person for mayor is an aberration and not a progressive democratic pursuit, your premise is worst than “fantasy football.” This political environment is not worthy of debate or discussion, because the white voters in Youngstown and the “alphabet surburbs” (Austintown, Boardman, Canfield) are ideologically four decades behind reasonable and progressive political thinking cities and counties elsewhere (Cleveland, Ohio; Cuyahoga County) where qualified black people and women get elected based on credentials. Look at mayors Carl Stokes, Michael White, Jane Campbell and Frank Jackson, Congressman Louis Stokes, multiple black judges, several county commissioners.

Welcome to Youngstown; it’s Mississippi, circa 1950.

White voters here have had their say at the polls for over a century, partly due to census population demographics of highly dense white wards and mostly because they are now and have always been afraid of change and react misinformed, ill-informed and uninformed to anything that does not look Eastern European and disrupts their definition of a patriotic American lifestyle. Examples include busing, red lining, Equal Rights Amendment, voting rights, etc.

Finally, Bertram, you and I do agree on one thing: Democratic Party Chairman Betras is not a racist by accepted definition, but he is guilty of being racially insensitive, like so many of you individuals who have assimilated to this American melting pot, prospered and left your culture at the Ellis Island portals.

This was not an undercurrent reaction by the vast majority of black people, nor was it a tsunami. We did feel a size 6 seismographic racial tremor.

C. Nolan Boles, Youngstown

More people should read editorial pages of newspapers

Alexander Hamilton at the age of 17 was considered one of the greatest communicators of his day. He was an eloquent speaker; when he spoke he held the attention of all within hearing distance. At that time the spread of news was limited to word of mouth and what few newspapers were available.

Alexander was concerned that so many people showed little interest in what was going on in their budding new country. He referred to these people as town-pump gossipers, because they seemed content only with what was happening around them.

I see a parallel between those days and now. I believe today most readers of the local newspapers scan the world and local news, the sports pages and stop there. They ignore the most informative part of the paper: the editorial page.

These opinion columns are written by professionals — people who are capable of expressing themselves adequately. We will not agree with everything they write, and that’s how it should be, but being exposed to various viewpoints should help us make the decisions that could be critical the next time we enter the voting booth.

In Washington, D.C., we have a bunch of overpaid decision-makers whose actions are being stagnated by political pressure and the fear of offending their constituents. Consequently, nothing is getting done.

Leon White, Columbiana

Vindy Obamacare series praised

Kudos to The Vindicator and the Associated Press. Your six-part series on Obamacare was the most comprehensive and easiest-understood writing I have seen on the subject.

Although, I hope that Obamacare will yet be repealed, in all probability we will be stuck with it. It can join many other failed government programs.

Assuming that it will remain a law, your article explained many of the reasons we can expect future medical shortages and an increase in medical expenses. It also explained why we will have a new criminal populace who will not purchase the insurance deemed necessary by the federal government.

We needed to know all of this. Thank you.

Donald Butler, Warren

US should invest in education, fighting Mexican drug cartels

The real problem in Amer- ica is the direction that the country is taking because of the leadership. No matter how sincere they might be, and that is in question, they are going down a dark road. They recently sent a rocket to the moon again when everyone knows that there is absolutely nothing there, and it just costs a lot of money that could have been used for other things in our country.

America is not the policeman of the world. It acts like a man who helps everyone but his own family. The Bible says that a Christian who doesn’t take care of his own family is worse than an unbeliever.

That be as it may, why are we always sending our troops all over the world, even after we have seen that this has never turned out good for us or the people we supposedly tried to help?

Other countries are sovereign nations and the people in those nations are more than capable of removing evil leaders by many different means. It is really none of our business.

It is sad when innocent people and children are killed, but what about the genocide in America that kills unborn children everyday?

If the government wants to do some good, it should send troops into Mexico and deal with the murdering cartels and all those who support them in our own country.

They should put money in revamping our educational system that no longer prepares our children to succeed in a world that has drastically changed over the last 50 years. The summer vacation is ridiculous since it was needed for the harvest of an agricultural nation, which we no longer are. No wonder other nations raise more educated and intelligent children than we do.

Finally, the nation needs to return to God and the Christian faith that it was founded on. America was never perfect, but it is still the greatest nation in the world.

Leo Feher, Youngstown

Economic recovery fails to impress

Has the economy “really” improved? The only way the government seems to be able to balance its budget is to “take” from the poor, disabled and seniors.

College graduates can’t find jobs. Those who have jobs are being laid off, and the companies are hiring younger less qualified individuals to save money.

Of course when Obamacare kicks in, everyone will be kicked down to part-time jobs. Is there even such a thing as job security anymore — especially with retirees’ pensions being taken off of them?

A person only needs to walk into any grocery store to hear the sound of shoppers grumbling to themselves. I say grumbling to themselves because elected officials make politically sound decisions rather than to “see” and “hear” the hardship the American people are under.

What sounds good on paper won’t put food in people’s mouths.

Syliva Koczwara, Youngstown


Comments

1Kernaloftruth(86 comments)posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago

C. Nolan Boles:

Your tone is quite presumptive, because I hardly think you are qualified to speak for the so-called "ABC" suburbs and how they think. I am sure, however, that they are tired of your side putting words into their mouths and telling them what they are thinking.

Whereas you claim Mahoning County is Mississippi 1950, I think the more accurate statement here would be your line of thinking is stuck in 1950 because your entire racially charged editorial is just another attempt to get a rise out of people.

I do not know if you have been to the inner city Cleveland where your so-called progressives are elected, but you can keep them if that is what you want for Youngstown. Your same progressives live in inner city Detroit and inner city Chicago, and you can keep them too.

I find your editorial to be insulting to the other ethnic heritages that made this county great, and to say our heritage was left at Ellis Island is obviously a stupid and misinformed comment because the Italian, Irish, Slovak, and multitude of other cultures form some of the strongest communities here in the Valley.

From my point of view, you sir are as culturally insensitive and racist as those you are accusing in your piece, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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2Kernaloftruth(86 comments)posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Mr. Boles, if this is the best your side has to offer for the future of the City of Youngstown, I hope John McNally cleans your clock in November.

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3birdseed(66 comments)posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago

yeah right, coleman young and demain kitchen too.

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4Silence_Dogood(1341 comments)posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago

"where qualified black people and women get elected based on credentials"

Mr Boles would you, with a strait face, want to compare Kitchen's credentials to McNally's.

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5SeriouslyNow(192 comments)posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago

@Donald Butler,
I'd also like to give thanks to the Vindy and the AP for the series on ACA. However, what's interesting to me is how Mr Butler has extrapolated what he read to be a government program that is bound to fail, provides services to criminals, and will cause medical shortages and inceased medical costs.

I read the same articles that Mr. Butler did and came away with the understanding that SOME people fear that these things MIGHT happen, but that the AP or the Vindicator was not saying that these things WOULD happen.

I'm reminded of a similar situation in the mid-sixties when there were some people (of a particular political party) predicting the destruction of the United States by this evil plan called medicare.

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6Kernaloftruth(86 comments)posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Well, the numbers for the ACA don't lend themselves to what the politicians promised back when this thing passed. Judging by the amount of people saying their premiums are getting jacked up based on what the site is estimating (and the lack thereof of those saying they are going down), I find the situation a little alarming in that the system is going to be relying on younger people taking on the brunt of the rate increases when at this point in their life they can barely afford it.

But you know what, we are going to see one way or another if the administration was jerking everyone around or not. Since the government's lack of foresight and planning is preventing most people from even accessing the site at all, we might have to wait a little bit longer.

I personally think Obama is full of it like his track record has been the last term, so I'm kind of anxiously awaiting to see what reality is compared to what he said about it back in 2009.

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7birdseed(66 comments)posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago

i plan on writing in de auxilary kitchen for mayor.

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8SeriouslyNow(192 comments)posted 11 months, 2 weeks ago

@Kernal,
you say that "the numbers... don't".

Do you like to provide the source of your information?

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