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Forum highlights oil and gas boom


Published: Wed, March 13, 2013 @ 12:00 a.m.

Company’s 61 hires, plans for more highlighted at forum in Boardman

By Jamison Cocklin

jcocklin@vindy.com

BOARDMAN

Exterran Energy Solutions, which first announced a 65,000-square-foot manufacturing facility on Salt Springs Road in Youngstown in 2012, already has hired 61 local employees, with plans to bring on about 20 more within the next month or so.

The Houston-based company, which provides services and equipment for oil and gas production, processing, treating, transportation and storage, chose Youngstown for its $13.2 million project because of an experienced manufacturing workforce and its geographic location, said Michael Grimland, the company’s director of manufacturing.

Exterran’s arrival in Youngstown, where it’s expected to generate more than $15 million in annual revenue, is a sign that the Utica and Marcellus shale plays are bound to stay competitive as domestic-energy production continues to ramp up across the country.

Industry officials and members of the state’s congressional delegation were eager to highlight why the oil and gas industry has been — and will continue to be — a boon for Ohio’s economy for decades to come at an economic-impact forum Monday at Mr. Anthony’s Banquet Center. The event was sponsored by the Youngstown/Warren Regional Chamber and other organizations.

“Imagine if the U.S. were to become the OPEC of natural-gas exports and if Ohio were to lead the way in allowing the U.S. to become the dominate player in this energy sector,” said U.S. Rep. Bill Johnson of Marietta, R-6th, referring to the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, an intergovernmental partnership of some of the world’s leading oil producers and exporters, most of which are in the Middle East.

“I don’t think I need to tell you what that would mean. It could happen; I believe it will happen,” Johnson said, addressing a crowd of about 200. “When it does, it will change the paradigm of geopolitical power across the globe.”

According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration’s 2013 energy outlook report, U.S. natural-gas production will increase from 23 trillion cubic feet in 2011 to 33 trillion cubic feet in 2040. In 2011 alone, 95 percent of the country’s natural-gas supply was produced domestically, helping to drive domestic prices to record lows.

Johnson, along with U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan of Niles, D-13th, spearheaded an effort in January that found a letter signed by about 410 legislators going to U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu, calling on him to approve permits to non-Free Trade Agreement countries to open up additional markets for liquefied natural gas.

“We all know it makes no sense to drill for a resource if there’s no market for it,” Johnson said. “That’s why it’s important to open up markets, foreign markets and world markets for the product we’re drilling for in the U.S.”

Johnson added that he would use his recent appointment to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce to help fend off overarching regulatory efforts on hydraulic fracking from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

Many pundits are anticipating tougher regulations when a long-delayed federal report about fracking’s affect on groundwater is released.

In the meantime, Ohio has permitted 548 wells to date, with 255 of those fully developed and 74 producing. Forum panelists were quick to tout the drop in unemployment and the rise in sales-tax collections in places such as Carroll, Columbiana and Harrison counties, where drilling operations are the most intense.


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1glbtactivist(249 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Check with local hotels, those thousands of jobs are part time jobs with employees brought here from out west. Many are illegals working on the cheap. Almost nobody from Youngstown has been hired. We are having our environment destroyed by foreign energy giants and we aren't even getting the jobs.

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2UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Shut up already with your lies. Illegals, prove it fool! Prove V&M Star has no locals, bum! Prove Dearing compressor his packed with out of state workers, loser!
I'm glad we just have a few of these hipsters left, go get a job for heaven's sake!

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3timOthy(802 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

HOG WASH !!!! I live where the action is in western Columbiana Cty./Eastern Carroll Cty. The new plant in Hanoverton OH. ALL OUT OF TOWNERS WITH OUT OF STATE PLATES. TRANSMISSION LINES ALL 4X4 TRUCKS WITH THERE WEILDERS ON THE BACK OUT OF STATE PLATES AGAIN !
HOW MANY TICKETS HAVE BEEN WROTE AND WHY NOT ???
YOUR REPUBLICAN LOSERS IN COLUMBUS COULD CARE LESS .

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4UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Good, cause the locals are left with the remains of the brain drain, can't pass a drug test, probably true with the hipsters here and are lazy and uneducated, sorry fools these are facts.

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5Ytown20(118 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Take a look at the pipeline running through eastern Mahoning County. ALL out of state plates from out of state companies.

The governor even commented about the problems of all out of state workers in this industry:

"So you could have the situation where we are not getting the jobs, they are taking the resources and all of their profits and they are heading home. That is not acceptable to me."

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6Ytown20(118 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

The Laborers' International Union of North America rallied in Carroll County today to protest the hiring of out-of-state workers for local construction work related to shale development.

Union representatives stated their feeling that qualified local workers are being passed over for jobs in favor of less qualified workers and companies from other areas, estimating that 75-80% of the construction work related to shale development is going to out-of-state companies and workers or to area companies with substandard employee compensation and benefit plans.

http://the-daily-digger.blogspot.com/...

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7Ytown20(118 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the low point in the last decade for employment in the oil and gas extraction sector occurred in 2003 with approximately 118,000 direct industry jobs. Between 2003 and 2011, job growth in the sector amounted to about 56% to reach 186,000 jobs by 2011, a net gain of 67,900 jobs.

But to put this into perspective, this job creation amounted to 1/20th of 1% of overall employment figures in the US.

Given that there are currently 12.8 million unemployed, a growth of 67,900 jobs during a period of “game changing”, “revolutionary” activity in the natural gas markets demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that jobs creation has been overhyped and hardly a “game changer” for the overall labor market.

http://energypolicyforum.org/2012/03/...

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8cambridge(3010 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

The State of Ohio should have created it's own energy company hired drillers, eliminate the toxic additives, provide the Ohio taxpayer with free gas, use local labor and sell off the remaining gas for revenue to run the state.

Instead you get pollution, out of state workers, scumbag gas industry spokesmen, low property values and gas companies making the lions share of the profits selling Ohio's gas to the highest bidder.

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9UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

ABC hipster, show us all how you reduce your carbon footprint, don't just blab about it produce!

"It is because you suck that we frack!"

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10UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

ABC, show us facts, not made up BS. And answer the question reveal to us how you eliminate combustion fuel, how you heat your home, go on show us or you are nothing but a hypocrite.

Fool, thank us for keeping your lazy butt warm, while we work.

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11UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

ABC, you are a crack head and you blame the drug dealer for your pathetic life.

You get it now?

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12UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

This guy is so stupid he can't even figure out the analogy. Obviously a remnant of the brain drain from Youngstown.

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13Ytown20(118 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

@Uticashale,
Please enlighten us all on your "analogy" oh wise fracker.

All "crack heads" are against fracking? Or wait, just their drug dealers are against fracking?

Your argumentum ad hominem analogy riddles are too hard for us brain drainers to understand!

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14RTS1416(117 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

ABC 100, I am still on the fence on this entire topic, however, after reviewing the "list of those harmed" that you posted in a previous article all I can find are complaints in local papers. The vast majority of which have been discounted by PDNR, health professionals and local government agencies. There are very, very few articles where it was actually found that the water or air had been affected to a degree that PDNR or heath officials found to be unsafe and in those instances the companies involved seem to have taken immediate action to correct any problems.

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15RTS1416(117 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

I will restate that I am unsure what to think about the entire gas boom but the "list of those harmed" showed me only disgruntled land owners with very little damage actually done, and yes, I did spend hours reading the articles, not just one or two.

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16UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

RTS, you are wasting your time with these extremist here. Truth be told, if they would identify themselves (I am for the Vindy mandating identity) you will find very insignificant contributors to society here. Most you will see that they are the "takers" of society who have all the time and free stuff to fight for more.

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17UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

There it is! the conspiracy whacko reveals himself. What a fool to believe he is more qualified than the ODNR, the EPA, the entire State. Yes incognito nameless one ABC is the authority against the whole global energy industry. What a whack job. Call the police, call the CIA, the FBI, surely you are qualified to speak intelligently about oil and gas. What a fool, ABC here is news for you bro, YOU ARE A NOBODY, you hear me a NOBODY, if you have some sound information back it up with the name your Mommy gave you. Why are you ashamed of yourself? If you are the authority you claim to be, MAN UP.

The Vindy really needs to clean up this mess of a board and require everyone to reveal themselves so we can see the insignificant whacko's these losers are.

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18UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Facts? You fool the whole world is consuming the energy being harvested right here loser. Fact, billions of dollars have been doubled down in eastern ohio. Idiot! the facts are you are paying less for NG to heat your dumb lazy butt. The facts make you exist to fight it. Your facts are google it, what a turd you are, everyone knows you can make up anything on the internet except the extreme outcasts like you.
Show me the money! remember that line bozo, the money , billions are the facts. the industry is inocent until proven guilty, it is insignificant morons like you who must prove it and you can't that is why everyone ignores you and I am about to do the same right here.
Lastly, hey Vindy, Sweetwood make us all use our real names, I'm begging , so I can expose this loser and the rest of this little bent what pathetic lives these losers live.

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19cambridge(3010 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

uselessshill....I can understand why you would not want people using Google for fracking information because:

When I Google searched "fracking pollution in texas" I got 668,000 results.

https://encrypted.google.com/#hl=en&s...

When I Google searched "fracking pollution in oklahoma" I got 253,000 results.

https://encrypted.google.com/#hl=en&s...

When I Google search "fracking pollution in colorado I get 475,000 results.

https://encrypted.google.com/#hl=en&s...

When I Google search "fracking pollution in wyoming" I get 222,000 results.

https://encrypted.google.com/#hl=en&s...

When I read your post all I get is the same delusional BS every time. Like I said, I can understand why you would not want people using Google for information about fracking when we should just trust you.

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20RTS1416(117 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Cambridge..When I Google "landfill pollution in California" I get 1,870,000 results. Now, I'm not saying that the landfills that you seem to be so proud of are a problem, the point is just because you produce a large amount of results has no bearing on the substance of those results.
ABC100..If you actually READ some of those "facts" you will find that most of them do not support your point of view.

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21cambridge(3010 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

rts....I never said that 1.5 million results support my view. What I am saying is that there are 1.5 million results on fracking pollution in four states and people are free to read them and draw their own conclusions or they can believe uselessshill and his ilk.

That would be a major difference between me and the shills. I'm willing to post as much information that is available and all the shills are willing to do is claim there has NEVER been any contamination connected to fracking.

I know you're just an average citizen with no skin in the game trying to understand the process, right? I'm just trying to help people like yourself out.

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2276Ytown(1241 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

20 years from now the wells will have been fracked, mystery chemicals left behind in the wells, property values diminished, jobs gone, our finite water supply unusable for human consumption, air, water and land polluted, illness and birth defects, we'll look back at saying we traded all this for for greed. A legacy the next generation have to deal with.

I'm not convinced that there are no alternatives to this barbaric method of extracting natural gas. The auto industry has the technology to increase gas mileage and homes can be built with better energy efficiency. People need to have an intelligent conversation about the pros and cons of fracking before irreparable damage has been done. This is only a short term solution to the problem leaving us with permanent damage to our environment and human life.

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23UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The Vindy must mandate all here to identify themselves so the energy companies can evict Cambridge, 76Y, ABC, all who take and produce nothing. All who suck up energy and fight the harvesting of it should be shut off from the grid. A NG company in NY did it to a small village and the antifrackers are begging for heat. Show these hipsters the door. This is the new approach the energy companies must make widespread. Those who oppose energy development should be prevented from sucking on it.

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24RTS1416(117 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

I find it hard to believe you can "see right through"
anything considering the oversize set of blinders you seem to be wearing.

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25cambridge(3010 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

PLEASE mr. uselessshill, don't shut off my gas, I promise I'll be good. Don't be cranky, just pretend you smacked us around, that always seems to make you feel better, or just hug your blankie. I know you will be making new rules for posting on the Vindy and I promise I will follow all of your new rules and try and never make you mad again. And thank you so much for all that gas you keep spewing.

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26UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

See how they try to LOL, but notice how they run and hide if they are threatened to be exposed. Truth be told, they are the "taker" class, the unproductive , the consumer in our society. They most likely are idle and do not work a production job, they are bureaucrats, politicians, many nonprofit grant recipients. Thay are tasked to spread propaganda by interest to prevent American ingenuity in high tech drilling. As energy workers pour into the Utica by the thousands, these fractivist must be displaced and disconnected from the energy grid they waste and suck on daily.

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27Ytown20(118 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

UticaShale,
In addition to addressing the above mentioned Haliburton Loophole, please provide the source for your comment "energy workers pour into the Utica by the thousands."

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, job growth from this sector over the past 8 years amounted to 1/20th of 1% of overall employment figures in the US.

Your comment appears to be consistent with industry hype.

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28RTS1416(117 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

ABC, Questions from the Pennsylvania Medical Society about the scope of the confidentiality agreements led to the Pennsylvania Dept. of Health clarifying the law’s intent in an April letter. State Secretary of Health Eli N. Avila, MD, assured doctors that proprietary information can be utilized in whatever manner is necessary to respond to the “medical needs asserted,” including sharing the information with patients, other physicians involved in the patients’ care and public health agencies. The society said it was satisfied with the response but will continue to monitor the issue.
That hardly sounds like a gag order to me?
If the Pennsylvania Medical Society (the doctors themselves) do not have a problem then what are you getting all frothed up about? Once again you spout off propaganda without bothering to check out the facts first

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29Ytown20(118 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

RTS,
The issue of the medical gag order was reported on the front page of the American Medical Association newsletter on August 27, 2012 entitled: Doctors fight gag orders over fracking chemicals.

If physicians do not have a problem with the gag orders imposed upon them after the April letter as you state, why are they bringing the issue front and center in the August edition of their national medical society newsletter?

Dr. Alfonso Rodriguez, nephrology, from PA, filed suit against the PA attorney general on July 27, 2012 in US District Court. So I guess he was also not convinced this letter written in April does anything to remove the gag order placed upon him.

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30RTS1416(117 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

You told me to check the AMA website and that is exactly where the information I posted came from
American Medical Association
www.ama-assn.org/
I am no longer going to debate this issue with you as you obviously do not read the the sources you site.

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31UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

@Vindy and RTS, the Vindy needs to mandate all who post here to reveal their true identity inorder for the readers to establish authority on the subject if any. What we most likely will find is hollow individuals with no background nor track record to shore up their claims. We will find very quickly that most above are takers in society and produce nothing.

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