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Zimmerman found not guilty

Published: Sat, July 13, 2013 @ 10:06 p.m.


After deliberating for more than 15 hours over two days, jurors have reached a verdict in George Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial.

The jurors notified the judge Saturday night a little before 10 p.m. that they had reached a decision. It will be announced shortly.

The six-member, all-woman jury began deliberating at 2:30 p.m. Friday after spending part of the day listening to the defense closing arguments and a rebuttal from the prosecution.

Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in Trayvon Martin's death, but jurors could also choose manslaughter. Zimmerman claims he shot Martin in self-defense.

The case drew massive protests after a 44-day delay in Zimmerman's arrest. Demonstrators demanded Zimmerman's arrest.

The police chief in Sanford, where Martin was shot and where the trial is being held, urged peace after the verdict is read.


1Attis(879 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

No justice for people of color in the USA. Check out the difference between execution (let alone guilty conviction) rates in murder cases when there's a black victim/white defendant to when there's a white victim/black defendant. The difference is as black is to white. Jim Crow never left America.

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2Jerry(498 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

So the original decision of the original district attorney and police was correct. There never was enough evidence to support a conviction, the charges never should have been brought, and this whole thing was a politically motivated witch hunt.

Now I hope that George Zimmerman sues the state of Florida into bankruptcy for wrongful persecution. I hope he takes the entire state for every penny they have, or ever will have.

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3greene(167 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Justice prevailed.

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4TB(1167 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

That's Similar To My Thoughts Gj...If George Zimmerman Has Legitimately Been Found Not Guilty, Then I Guess Oj`S Verdict Was Just As Well.

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5VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

All the pre-trial guilty opinions, media hype and persecutions did not stop justice. The state HAD to prosecute to appease public outcry, but in the end they did not have the evidence to convict. Zimmerman is free because justice prevailed. He was attacked and defended himself while he was on the ground with Trayvon sitting on top of him trying to beat his brains out.

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6Constructor(105 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Florida: The venue choice of killers everywhere!

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7parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Here is a litmus lest for all of those who let out a cheer when Zimmerman was acquitted: Have you ever made a disparaging racial remark about an African-American? Have you ever made a disparaging racial remark about President Obama or his family? If you answered, "no", to either question, you're a liar. And your shouts of "justice was served" is just a cover for your racist leanings.

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8parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Here's another litmus test: Keep all of the circumstances the same on the evening that George Zimmerman shot and killed an unarmed teen, but put YOUR child in the place of Trayvon. Was justice served for YOUR child by the jury's verdict? If you answer, "yes", you're a liar.

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9parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

The jury in the Zimmerman case was looking for any "out" the so-called "law' could provide them to reach an acquittal. How could they return to their homes and resume their lives in an outlaw state such as Florida if they had so much convicted Zimmerman of jaywalking. The jury was in fear for their lives and acted accordingly with this verdict. They are free to go home, but with blood on their hands.

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10parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Send Florida a message: Boycott Disneyworld. Boycott products from Florida. Change your vacation plans and never set foot in that state again. Bring Florida's economy to its knees.

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11Jerry(498 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Hey!! parlayhenry and I agree on making Florida pay for their misconduct in this case. Slightly different perspectives.....but we do agree.

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12parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Hey Jerry, answer my first litmus test comment. I already know the answer.

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13SemiRetired100(25 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

One for the good guys! Stand your ground forever and forever! Al Sharpton is right now organizing a flash mob in protest. Too bad, Al, the jury has spoken.

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14LtMacGowan(643 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Justice prevailed. The Legal system should be blind to color and political machinations. Watching the trial it was like Bizzaro land with the Defense arguing the facts and the "nuts & bolts" and the Prosecution just trying to get the Jurors to emote and ignore the facts.

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15Jerry(498 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Hey parlayhenry:

The answer to your first "litmus" test is a "NO" in both cases; and also "NO" I am not a liar. What evidence do you have that I am??.......Oh, that's right, you don't seem to feel that evidence is necessary to form an opinion and make statements.

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16parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Jerry, don't compound things with a lie. It is unbecoming. Be a man. For all of you right-wing-nuts out there, answer my two litmus test questions, above. Don't dodge them like Jerry did. Don't add the sin of lying to the sin of hating.

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17twentyonetwelve(98 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Hey parlayhenry:

How many racial remarks toward whites have you made? If you answered "no", your a liar. If Zimmerman was black. and Martin was white, I'd bet the farm you would be in 100% support of Zimmerman simply because of the color of his skin. Lets not sugar coat this thing. You support him because he is black. Period. Justice for the people is not your concern. Justice for the black individual IS your concern. I am sure you thought O.J. was innocent, too.

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18outoftownbutstillaround(16 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Parlayhenry, answer this...

Are you assuming that a man killed someone, police let it slide, and a jury acquitted a guilty man ALL because the person who died was black?

That's a strong assumption. The assumption that the nitwit Zimmerman made (that a hooded teen is a criminal) pales in comparison.

And finally, once again, this guy isn't white so it doesn't for your narrative.

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19Ytownnative(1036 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Attis I did check the execution rates by race you are correct they are very lopsided
this is all executions since 1976

BLACK 460 35%
LATINO 103 7%
WHITE 751 56%
OTHER 24 2%

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20Ytownnative(1036 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

and to add to that they population of death row

BLACK 1,309 41.93%
LATINO 387 12.4%
WHITE 1,351 43.17%
OTHER 78 2.51%

so white are 1.26% more of the death row inmates yet their execution rates are 21% higher. Sounds like race definitely plays into who gets executed

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21papa1(662 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Zimmerman is not a racist? then who was he referring to as "those people always get away with it? Zimmerman broke the law when he left his car to hunt martin. how did Zimmerman reach his gun when martins knees were in his armpits as Zimmerman testifies? the prosecution blew this case. Zimmerman is guilty.

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22lumper(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

there was never any doubt that he was innocent. too much "reasonable doubt " to send this bozo to prison. this is just all MEDIA HYPE trying to get the most outrageous black "performer" some tv time about how outraged they are over an obvious verdict.

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23Lesthanzero(35 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

The prosecution failed to make its case. The jury needed to be convinced that Zimmerman was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. There was apparently still plenty of doubt, especially from the prosecution, whose witnesses at times made the case FOR the defense and at the last minute tried to slip in another charge as if to hedge its bet. Unless you were at the scene of the incident and and sat through the trial and watched all 56 witnesses testify, it doesn't matter what you or anyone else similarly exposed to the case thinks. What matters is what the jury thought.

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24stoutmaster(29 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Parlay: Kudos to you for NOT being a hippocrite. You are very consistent in believing "guilty before proving innocence" or worse "guilty and not allowed to prove innocence"

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25joseph(46 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Trayvon got exactly what he deserved. Dress like a thug, act like a thug, and get treated like a thug.

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26Rooster(78 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

This red-neck Republican would have voted for manslaughter for the simple reason that you don't use a gun because you are taking some punches in a little fist fight you had a part in instigating. I don't care who was on top or who threw the first punch, this Zimmerman helped cause this altercation and then shoots some kid because he wasn't prepared to get his nose broken? So then what was Mr. Fraidy Cat doing on the patrol if he was going to shoot some kid in a panic pinch? Never should have been a murder trial, but was a slam-dunk manslaughter any day. News media screwed this up ever which way. If they had stayed out of it, this guy would have pled to a manslaughter and would be doing some jail time and this would have been over. He knew this was a kid, he knew he antagonized this kid following him around, and he didn't need to shoot him in the chest at the very least of it. Could have winged him surely if it came to shooting, which it didn't need to. This wasn't a situation where the kid jumped him to mug him. And another thing - just like the OJ case, no prosecutor is going to be as effective as the Defense money boys. And they also knew no all-woman jury was going to get the etiquette of a fist fight - that worked in Defenses favor, too, and they knew that and the numbskull prosecutor didn't. . Well this is all a big mess now, and no good will come from it - for either side.

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27harleydog(209 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Didn't see the blacks rioting when OJ got off for murder. Didn't see the blacks rioting when MJ got off for molesting little boys. No they were cheering in the streets. Didn't see Al Sharpton apologize to the young men who were wrongly accused of raping a black girl in North Carolina. Let me guess Jesse Jackson is going to say that racists are against his son for stealing from his own campaign. The four biggest racist in this country are Jesse, Al, Eric and Barry.

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28parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Oh, this would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. Right-wingers bringing up the OJ case in comparison to this case as "justification" for a teenage boy's death when he was "accosted while walking", which is now considered probable cause for allowing an overzealous Barney Fife to shoot his beloved "peacemaker" in Florida. For the rational people out there, some questions: How weighed down are you in day to day life by this ocean of ignorance that is America in 2013? Didn't you think that maybe the atavistic tendency to hate based on skin color would somehow lessen? Do you walk through the day nauseated from having to associate with folks like Harleydog, above, who give it all away with their online avatar, "Harleydog"...really? You know exactly what a guy who calls himself, "Harleydog" is going to say about this tragedy before he touches the first key. Why write at all? Just put a dot there and we'll register your vote in the matter. The rest of the "haters" out there straining to prove that this black kid in a hoodie's death was warranted, all have the same characteristics as "Harleydog", even though they imagine themselves as unbiased chroniclers of the truth. "Well black people are racists, too!" No doubt. There are very few saints on this Earth. But that is not an answer to the question of justice being served in this decision, but that is too much for the ignorant to comprehend.

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29Alexinytown(246 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

The state failed to make its case, the system works. Parlay is speaking strictly on emotion judging from his posts, because the facts of the case overwhelmingly support the verdict that was delivered.

As far as shooting or not shooting, the reality is this: if you are on the ground getting the crap pounded out of you and you legitimately feel your life is in danger, chances are you are not thinking about where to shoot the guy that would least damage him--you just want him off.

The best the prosecution could have hoped for was a manslaughter charge, and even that was shaky.

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30parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Antiyoungstown, post #26 said the same thing. I have no disagreement at all with you; but although my characterizations seem like "profiling" and "assumption" on my part, it is closer to card-counting in blackjack where the cards (right-wingers) have revealed themselves over a lifetime so that my bets never lose. One-hundred-percent of those who are in Zimmerman's corner are right-wingers who exhibit racial prejudice and who hate Obama. It doesn't take Einstein to know that, so don't give me too much credit.

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31VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Facts we should know, but were not generally released to avoid painting Trayvon as a bad guy...I read today that Trayvon was suspended from school at the time due to being caught in school with bags of marijuana residue as well as women's jewelry and lock breaking tools. Some students said he was a nice guy who supplied marijuana to fellow students. He had a record in school as well as with the police, but all was destroyed to avoid bad publicity for the school. He was often tardy or did not show for school and would break into homes on this way to school. In addition, the media photo of Trayvon is actually 4 years old when he was a younger teen. His real photo shows an older and sterner looking adult rather than the angelic youngster in a hoodie. Trayvon was suspended from school for 5 days, but his parents did not know where he was for 3 days until they heard he was killed.

All of this should not be used to convict him as a criminal, but it does paint a picture of Trayvon not being the saint some are attempting to convince us that he was.

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32parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Post #14 ...the cards come up with: old white guy, hates blacks, hates Obama, made up his mind about Zimmerman minutes after he was aware of the shooting....

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33parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Post #16...Oh, that's you AntiObama, Antiblack....I mean, AntiYoungstown....you made up your mind the same as Post #14

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34parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Post #19...yes I have made remarks about white people...called them hillbillies and trailer-trash and such...but I don't categorize them as "racial", though, since I'm "white"...to lay it all out there, I too have made disparaging racial remarks about African-Americans, which is wrong and I'm sure if there is divine retribution, I will burn a bit for them...but, thank God, my parents raised me well and my educational experience and life experience has made me color-blind...when you take race out of a situation, which you wing-nuts can't do, then there is true justice and that did not occur for Trayvon....

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35parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Post #20...I don't think I characterize that as an "assumption" on my part. It is a logical deduction that any color-blind, rational person would make. Can you imagine (try, please) the pressure the jury was under to just make this go away? How could they return to their private lives in a outlaw State such as Florida, with so many right-wing bigots with guns and laws that allow their use in everyday situations, if they convicted Zimmerman of as much as jaywalking? Their verdict was the easiest way out for them and they took it. It was legal, but it was not just. I'm not at all saying that Zimmerman should have been guilty of second degree murder, but he was at least guilty of manslaughter. Once again, take the litmus test on Post #9.

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36parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Post 21 and #22...what is the incarceration rate of African-Americans, as a percentage of race? You prove not a thing with your selective post...take the litmus test on post #8 and #9...you don't have to let me know the result....I know it already..

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37parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Post #24, if Trayvon was your child, would you be so quick to come to that conclusion?

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38parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Ahhh, we come to the very bet post, #28...let me ask you, joseph, to remember back to when you were a teenager...how did you dress? how did you act? how did you talk? what did you drinK or smoke? what trouble did you get in in school? Trayvon was a teenager and very representative of how teens act, dress and behave in 2013. I'd love to get in a time machine and go back to see how all of these haters were as teens. "BUT HE HAD MARIJUANA IN HIS BLOOD!!!!" Oh my!!! So did President Bush, Clinton and Obama. But Trayvon won't get a chance to get through the right of passage in his "teen" years. He's dead and no one is to blame but Trayvon, for looking and acting like a teen, it seems. Just the sound of that is ridiculous and tragic. But he had one thing that didn't help him, his skin color. You haters are nauseating. It's a shame George never had a chance to follow any of you when you were teens.

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39parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Hey Anti, I sleep fine. I don't see racists everywhere, just from the wing-nuts out there. A major part of the right-wing mentality is to have a racist attitude toward African-Americans. It's the tie that binds. The Tea-Party movement is no more than a gussied up Ku Klux Klan started as a direct result of Obama's election.
Anti, I gave you a bit more credit than the rest of your ilk. Try reading my posts again. You need to work on reading and comprehension a bit. You get some rest and try to do better tomorrow.

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40excel(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Strip him of his gun and Zimmerman has no power to kill. LET'S GET ALL OF THE GUNS OFF THE STREETS!

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41philobeto(85 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago


because educated middle class have common sense and were raised to know better. When you are raised within an entitlement mentality, you tend to think the world owes you!

You can thank the Liberal press for adding fuel and turning this into a hot racial issue. I think they should be held accountable for civil damages or repercussions. They tried to create a story instead of reporting it.

And shame on politicians, mostly democrats, who are using this for self-promotion.

And the gun control advocates who keep trying to push their agenda to disarm America.

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42MIZZ(1 comment)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Martin was also racist, or is reverse racism OK?
OJ kills TWO people, leaves his children without parents and the black community danced in the streets.
What if Martin attacked Zimmerman because he was a "cracker?"
How did Zimmerman know if Martin had a weapon?
Record numbers turn out to vote in black communities when a black man runs for office, because of his politics? HELL NO.
"•Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
•When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife"
Those are facts: More black people are in the justice system because more black people commit crime.
BLACK ON BLACK crime in Chicago is at alarming rates, Send Jesse Jackson to IL have him lobby to bring those to trial.
Profiles are useful tools~ Old polish grandma's don't blow up buildings and planes. ~ Soccer Mom's usually don't hijack cars.
IF you profiling to stop~ Change the culture.

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43Alexinytown(246 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Just as an aside related to this since MIZZ brought this up, the whole concept of "reverse racism" is bogus. It is a false term that the media has attempted to use to classify different kinds of racism, particularly when the media uses it to describe whites accusing blacks of "reverse racism" and that it is some unproven phenomenon when they speak of it.

According to Oxford Dictionary, racism is defined as "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior:" Therefore if you were to apply the term "reverse racism" correctly, it would refer to someone who is not racist at all.

The term racism does not belong to one single group, any group could be racist against another group. There does not need to be a separate classification like "reverse racism". Racism is racism, period, and it is a two way street.

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44parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

WASHINGTON—Following Sunday’s not guilty verdict in the George Zimmerman trial, an exasperated and speechless nation could reportedly do nothing other than wish black teenagers good luck out there, saying that they’re definitely going to need it.
“Yeah, I don’t know what to tell you other than keep your wits about you and hope for the best,” Alexandria, VA resident Michael Klein advised the nation’s 10 million African-American youths. “Honestly, I’d recommend just staying inside after sundown if you can.”
“Try to stay safe, okay?” he added.
After neighborhood watch patrolman George Zimmerman was acquitted of all charges in a case where he admitted to shooting and killing unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, a frustrated U.S. populace said that maybe the only thing left for black teenagers to do is hope and pray for the best.
In addition, the citizenry said that it’s basically gotten to the point where African-American teens need to avoid walking alone, hanging out in groups, or even minding their own business, especially if they are planning to do any of those things in public.
Moreover, the nation told reporters that it’s pretty clear all black teenagers—whether they live in inner-city Chicago or the Florida suburbs—are pretty much on their own now, and the sooner they understand that nobody will be able to help them, the better off they’ll be.
“I mean, what can I say? You have no legal system to turn to, the police are out to get you, and everyone is immediately suspicious of you,” said Denver real-estate agent Kelly Martin, adding that she has been racking her brain trying to think of helpful advice for the teenagers, but that all she could come up with was, “Try to stay alive if you can.” “If you’re a black teen, you’re basically living in the Wild West right now. Not exactly words of encouragement, but there you have it.”
“You have to be able to defend yourself, and if you can’t defend yourself, I’m sorry,” she continued. “I’m truly, trulysorry.”
In addition to urging African-American youths to just keep their heads down and hope nobody messes with them, the populace noted that it couldn’t hurt if they also avoided making any fast movements, putting their hands in their pockets, or wearing anything that could somehow be construed as intimidating.
“If I were a black teenager, I would wear a white t-shirt and khaki shorts at all times, even if it’s winter,” said 34-year-old claims adjuster Nick Delmar. “Then again, some psycho would probably think white T-shirts and khaki shorts were some sort of gang thing, kill the kid, say he thought the kid appeared to be violent and dangerous, and probably be found not guilty.”
“What can I say other than it’s scary as all hell out there for you,” he added. “Good luck and godspeed.”

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45parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Hey Anti!!!! Howz it goin?? Oh, your post #51 was very gratifying. Thanks for caring enough to write and show so much emotion. I finally hit the right button!

Anyhow, the ignorance level from the right wing-nuts exhibited on these posts is truly remarkable. The hate just flows. Racism is alive and well. The concealed-carry guys are so happy that this "thug" was gunned down and now serves as a "warning" to the rest of the black teens out there. The fact that Zimmerman is given hero status to these lunatics just shows what a damaged country we live in.
Yeah, all black teens are thugs to small white men with guns. Hey zz3, you are the poster-boy of hate and a great example of the type of person who should have been walking in that neighborhood that night when George lived out his Dirty Harry fantasy. Trayvon's life was so much more worthwhile than yours.

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46parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

I Think People Could Have Been A Little More Sympathetic About My Broken Nose
By George Zimmerman
The past year and a half has been a very difficult time for me. It’s all been so upsetting and surreal, what with the night of the incident, my arrest, the resulting media feeding frenzy, and now, of course, my trial. At times it seems all anyone wants to talk about is what crime I may or may not have committed. Amidst it all, though, one thing has been nagging at me, and I hate to be the one to dig up old bones here, but I have to say, I honestly expected people to show a bit more sympathy and understanding about my broken nose.
C’mon. I broke my nose! Just a little acknowledgment would be nice. But I guess with all the fuss everyone’s making about the trial, my whole nose thing kind of got buried. Which sucks, I gotta say.
Have you ever had your nose broken before? It really hurts! When it happened, I felt the bone crack. Gross, right? There was a bunch of blood everywhere, too. Seriously, I have pictures of it; you should see how bad it was. My eyes swelled up and you can see this pretty nasty cut on the bridge of my nose. It’s all puffy and disgusting. Not a pleasant experience.
Yet out of the whole jury, the judge, and the prosecution, I don’t think a single person has approached me to say anything like “Hope your nose is feeling better, George,” or even just “Hey, bud, how’s the nose?” It’s like, couldn’t they have taken the two seconds to ask? It’s not hard.
It’s like, hello? My nose was broken!
I remember when a buddy of mine broke his leg skiing a few years back and he got like a billion get-well cards and gift baskets and stuff. Meanwhile, I break my nose and it’s treated like nothing. I didn’t get so much as an email from anyone saying, “Hey, George, I heard about your nose. That really sucks. Hope you feel better soon.” Nothing! People are just so rude, you know?
At some point it starts to seem so disrespectful. I mean, sure, the prosecution and I have our disagreements, but if one of those guys broke his arm or got sick, I can tell you I’d be the very first person to go over there and check in, make sure they are doing all right. They’re called manners, and apparently no one on the prosecution has heard of them.
A broken nose takes two months to heal, by the way. Two months.
To this day, I still think back on the night my nose was broken and, I have to say, it haunts me. It really haunts me. In my mind, I hear that little snapping sound of my nose breaking all over again. I can still remember looking in the mirror and seeing how swollen my nose was and thinking, “Heck, man, my nose is broken.” It was just an awful, awful thing that happened, you know? I don’t think I’ll forget it anytime soon. And yet, does anyone care? No. And that’s messed up, man. That is really messed up.
It still feels tender, too.

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47fd6636(255 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Parlay: Have YOU ever said anything racist about whites, Mexicans, Italians, Latinos, etc.? You bet you have! You failed your test. I think its lookie in the mirror time, eh?

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48parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

hey fd6636....read post#40...my litmus test is about the sides taken in this killing...I may be guilty of that sin, but I feel, and plenty of sinners like me, feel that justice was not served in this case, because, despite our sins of making disparaging remarks about other races and nationalities, we don't hate. Virtually ALL far-right Republicans hate African-Americans, that's why the modern KKK, the Tea Party, was formed after Obama's election. If left to your own devices, you right-wingers would rival 1930's Germany to eliminate those you hate. There is no doubt of that and that is why rational citizens must be more wary of you than any Middle Eastern terrorists.

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49parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Here's a great comment that I read about why the system failed Trayvon:
"The system failed him because of the disproportionate force that Trayvon and the neighborhood watchman could legally bring to the altercation — Zimmerman could legally carry a concealed firearm, while Martin, who was only 17, could not."
Think about that all you cowardly, Dirty Harry Wannabe, concealed-carry, loons: would any of you have dry pants if you had to face an opponent who was armed, like you? That would be something to see, you big-dreamers in a fair fight! LOL!!!!
You call Martin a "thug", but a "thug" would have been carrying and a "thug" would have popped a cap in Barney Fife Zimmerman before he could have said, "those punks are all alike".
Since you gun-nuts want guns available to everyone, I think that we should call our elected representatives and urge them to allow black teenage boys to buy guns legally and carry them at all times for their own protection. You fascists think they all carry them now, so let's just make it official. Wayne LaPierre would be happy. You "patriots" are all about fairness, so that would be fair. Then you can EARN your fantasy stripes as bad men against an opponent that can fight back with bullets, instead of his fists.

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50LtMacGowan(643 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

The Media was sickening. They did everything they could to get a conviction. First they show nothing but those pictures of Martin when he was 13, then they alter the 911 tape to make Zimmerman seem racist, then MSNBC flashes a picture of Martin's body with the caption "get angry". They were biased from the word go.

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51fd6636(255 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Parley............ Im sorry, you seem to me to be more of the problem than the solution... Just because I don't agree with you, Im now worse than a middle eastern terrorist? Whats next: Punishment for going against your views? You see where im going with this???? Most likely not. What happened was indeed tragic. The jury spoke. If justice was not served, the ultimate judge will decide in the end, don't you agree Parlay?? Maybe that guy did skirt justice, Maybe not. We all get ours in the end.

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52parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

"One of the burdens of being a black male is carrying the heavy weight of other people’s suspicions." That's very true. But the solution, in light of the killing of an unarmed Trayvon Martin, is to remove all doubt from the "suspicions". The NAACP and the NRA should get together and develop a plan to arm all African-Americans over the age of eight using massive concealed-carry classes leading to permits being issued. In this way it just makes it official for those who label all black teenage boys as "thugs" deserving of suspicion when they are out walking.

I think if George Zimmerman knew that Trayvon was "packing" and could pop a cap instead of just throwing a punch, he would have stayed in the car and listened to some soothing music. Let's use the strategy that led to detente with the Soviets, Mutual Assured Destruction by arming black citizens to the teeth. It may have some rocky consequences for a bit, I'm sure, but all those concealed-carry, white, Dirty-Harry Wannabe, but-only Barney Fife, folks like Zimmerman would know that the fight will be fair should they decide to live out their fantasy. Eventually it may lead to disarming both sides, locking up guns and peace. But we can't have one side thinking it can operate with impunity because the other side is at a disadvantage.

I can see it now, Al Sharpton and Wayne LaPierre, side by side, with some teenage black kids at a McDonalds, telling everyone to remember to stay safe with a peacemaker by their side. You see, it will also be good to see if the NRA is for arming any color of skin, not just white.

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53parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Hey Anti....you like coffee? I'll bet you don't like it "black"!!!! Just teasing....you're not such a bad guy!

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54parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Hey zz3....you truly should be ashamed of yourself...that was a teen walking home from the store...you are a true racist through and through and may a loving God curse you for the rest of your life and beyond...may nothing good ever happen for you...if Trayvon was a thug what does that make a hater like you? May that kid's death haunt you all of your days and onto your deathbed...you are a racist thug...

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55walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

It would be instructive if people were to listen to Z's call to the non-emergency police line, since he never called 911. His initial statements were that there was a suspicious character walking around the buildings and could they send a police car to investigate. The dispatcher then started asking probitive questions: what was his race, age, which way is he headed, etc. So, the dispatcher put Z into the wanna-be cop (hero) mode and he was going to demonstrate his ability. When Z lost sight of Martin, he got out of his vehicle and pursued so he could keep providing info to the police. When the dispatcher heard Z panting because he was in quick pursuit, he was told "You don't need to do that" to which Z responded "OK" and the huffing and puffing stopped. At that point, he was returning to his vehicle, still talking to the dispatcher, asking when the police were going to get there and where he should meet them. So, Z did obey the dispatcher, even though he was not obligated to do so, he knew a car was on its way and he wanted to meet the officers. Now, we know from testimony from Rachel Zaentel, that Martin believed he was being followed by a "creepy-ass cracker" but had ample time - remember the four minutes that the atty demonstrated in closing - to make it back to his residence but instead chose to cross paths with Zimmerman. It is highly doubtful that Martin, with his street cred, would have taken on Zimmerman is his gun was pulled. Obviously, the confrontation escalated and it seems logical that Martin threw the first punch since Z had a broken nose and Martin had no other injuries except the shot in the heart. Z was getting whooped, as the eyewitness indicated, Martin was on top and when his head was banged off the concrete, he feared for his life and shot Martin. Simple case of self-defense and it is the reason that you need a CCW permit. A real tragedy that could have been avoided except that someone escalated the verbal confrontation into a physical one and there is no conclusive proof who did it. Therefore, reasonable doubt and a not guilty verdict, but not innocent. And, no civil case will follow since Z is protected under the immunity law in Fla. since a jury found him not guilty of murder or manslaughter and the homicide was justifiable.

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56GTX66(343 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

I did not care for The OJ Verdict, but I did not go an riot in the streets and burn Police Cars. Zimmerman did not break the law when he got out of his vehicle. He was a member of a Block Watch. As to the lopsided umber of people of color in prison and Death Row. Why is that? They are there because they are Black?? Just go to the FBI's website and look at the stats of the racial backgrounds of those that break the law. If you really feel that Blacks are being discriminated upon in this day and age then move to Egypt or Syria or Somalia and then you can see what discrimination is like for real. Zimmerman himself is a minority. It is time that this country stops playing the race card and accept facts.

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57Robert_Neville(123 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

I have to agree with the verdict. The State of Florida did a really poor job in this case.

Next take all guns off the streets. So people can not kill someone with there hands. I have to disagree with this one. Guns need to upheld it is a right to everyone.

Parayhenry a true way to talk of love. Shame on you. So what I read before about if you do not agree with someone. Lets get rude of them stands true for you.

How do you feel about holder! This bum needs to go like OMG.

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58parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Technically speaking, a new trial should be set after the revelation from the juror interview on Anderson Cooper last evening. The juror said that the testimony of the police officer who took Zimmerman's initial statement and said, under oath, that in his (the officer's) opinion, Zimmerman was telling the truth, carried a lot of weight in the deliberation to find Zimmerman not guilty. The Judge struck that testimony at the time the officer said it as inadmissible and instructed the jury to disregard it in their deliberations. The jury, in fact, did just the opposite and used that as the central rationale for an acquittal.

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59parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

I'm 100% sure that the irony in Zimmerman being acquitted is lost on those cheering that justice was done. You are certainly right that justice for this murdered teen has been done: George Zimmerman would have been far better off to have taken a plea deal of manslaughter, apologizing for his actions, and serving time in prison. Once he got out, he would have had a far better chance of returning to a normal life. Now, he might as well be Salman Rushdie with a fatwa over his head. Zimmerman has become his own "Flying Dutchman", never having a moment's peace for the rest of his life. If a balloon pops at a party or a car backfires, he will wet his pants. Keep cheering the decision, racists out there. Zimmerman also killed himself when he shot that child.

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60parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

I'm an old white guy and I'm sending a donation to The Black Panthers because of this awful decision and all of the racist backlash from the far right. It is now justified to kill a black teen for walking? There needs to be a balance here and white America needs to be scared straight and the Panthers can do it. For way too long groups like the KKK and their ilk have held sway. Civil Rights is on the retreat in the Tea Party States and we need to call in a stopper and the Panthers fit the bill. It may lead to some rocky times, but the white racists have set the table and cannot be allowed to operate with impunity. Black athletes everywhere should get behind the Panthers. Maybe the NRA will contribute to the cause; they're all for arming America. The NRA can help the Panthers get concealed-carry permits. That may make all the racist, Dirty Harry Wannabes, think twice before exiting the vehicle. Send the Panthers a donation! It will have the effect of preventing violence through strength.

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61excel(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

The villian here is the gun. It is not about black or white. It is all about the small and weak minded having the power to kill at will. Without the gun Zimmerman would not have been bold enough to even get out of his vehicle. LET'S GET ALL OF THE GUNS OFF THE STREETS!

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62GTX66(343 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

According to Florida law Zimmerman is not guilty. That stand your ground law should be in all states. Say your beautiful home here in this area is Invaded by a bunch of thugs. Per the law you have to egress if you can. That means the state wants you to leave your house and let these thugs do as they please. This law is not also wrong, it is insane.
In the case in question, The FBI said after they spent a great deal of time investigating it that there were no civil rights violations. Now this AG, ( who should be investigated himself) bows to pressure from Al and Jesse to have the DOJ investigate. They will waste more of our tax dollars. Like it or not Zimmerman was found NOT Guilty by a jury of his peers. Causing a bunch of trouble and burning Police cars is not the way a civilized nation reacts.

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63excel(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

We are a nation of law for the protection of the people. Zimmerman was judge, jury and executioner. No one man should have such power. To restore law and order we need to give those who are suspected of a crime their day in court. Zimmerman got his day in court but Trayvon had his life quickly ended. There was no justice for Trayvon. LET'S GET ALL OF THE GUNS OFF THE STREETS!

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64walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

We are indeed a nation of laws. Zimmerman had a lawful permit to carry his weapon. When he was assaulted by Trayvon, the laws of self-defense allowed him to use deadly force to prevent grave harm or death. Why didn't Trayvon not back down? Ever bounce your head off concrete? I have and it is frightening. A tragic situation that was escalated by Trayvon, reasonably forcing Zimmermen to act the way he did.

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65kk80586(227 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Either Zim was very stunned with the broken nose or showed a LOT of restraint.... I heard a lot of yelling for help when I should have heard a loud bang.

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66excel(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

If you can't take a beating then don't pick a fight. Kill someone during a fight with a gun or a knife and you deserve to get charged. LET'S GET ALL OF THE GUNS OFF THE STREETS!

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67Robert_Neville(123 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

I have to disagree with your last sentence. If we take guns off the street the criminals will still find a way of killing. In the wild west everyone had a gun and no problems then. The real problem is police and law enforcement need take the threat away. No one like a eliot ness but maybe it is needed to fight drugs and crime.

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68parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

As legal experts deconstruct the “not guilty” verdict in the George Zimmerman trial — the man accused of murdering Trayvon Martin — an ugly truth rears its head again: racial disparities are alive and well in our criminal justice system. “In truth, when black boys and men are killed by non-blacks, more often than not, justice will not be served,” said Nicole Austin-Hillery on CNN. “Trayvon Martin is the latest name on a long list of African-American men and boys whose non-black killers escaped justice in America's courts — a list that runs from Emmett Till to Amadou Diallo to Oscar Grant to Sean Bell."

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69excel(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Deconstruct all you want! If Zimmerman didn't have a gun Trayvon would still be alive. Guns are not racial they kill whoever is in the path of the bullet. LET'S GET ALL OF THE GUNS OFF THE STREETS!

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70excel(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Would a white boy have caught Zimmerman's attention? LET'S GET ALL OF THE GUNS OFF THE STREETS!

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71excel(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Supporting Zimmerman is counterproductive and a total waste of time. LET'S GET ALL OF THE GUNS OFF THE STREETS!

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72oilguy82(9 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

The guy jumped Zimmerman and got handled.If the kid would have been white or hispanic people wouldnt be making a big deal.

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73excel(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

The issue here is the fact that Zimmerman went looking for a fight with a gun to back him up. When he was loosing the fight he then shot Trayvon who was guilty of being black and heading home from the store. LET'S GET ALL OF THE GUNS OFF THE STREETS.

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74excel(281 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

You are simply looking for someone to endorse Zimmerman's actions. What is clear is the fact that if Zimmerman wasn't packing a gun he would not have been bold enough to have picked a fight with Trayvon. LET'S GET ALL OF THE GUNS OFF THE STREETS!

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75handymandave(474 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

The bottom line is Trayvon was trespassing in a guarded community that he had no right being in. It was a locked community to keep people out that had no business being there. Doesn't matter if he was unarmed there was a gun at bthe situation, Zimmerman brought it. If Zimmerman felt that Trayvon might be able to get the weapon away from him and use it against him than sorry Trayvon, you should have thought twice before trespassing. Good lesson for others to learn too. Stay away from property that isn't yours.

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76parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Obama will go down in history as one of our greatest Presidents who faced-down the extraordinary legislative obstructionism of Republicans pandering to the wishes of the modern KKK, the Tea-Party. His race brought white, right-wingers into the future before they were ready and civil war ensued. In spite of it all, he governed effectively during a time of upheaval in our country and the world. He beat right-wingers like a rented mule and set the table for their exit into the dustbin. The haters know this, and all of their irrationality and foot-stomping cannot stop it. Obama sinks you like a three foot putt.

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77parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

The racists who call Trayvon Martin a "thug who had it coming" for the crime of walking down a street, and deny the obvious fact that African-Americans experience racism in this country from their first breath of life until their last, need only read posts on sites like this to know that racism is alive and well. You haters will never understand this because at the heart of it you are miserable, ignorant, folks who never succeeded in life and have no hope of succeeding, and use racism to bolster your own self-esteem. Obama being elected President was the ultimate insult to all of you racists because here was a "black man" who rose to be the most powerful man in the world, despite a herculean effort to keep his race down, while you losers who had the huge advantage of being born white, remain losers. That is why the modern KKK, the Tea-Party, was formed in 2008 to try to make Obama a failed President. It had just the opposite effect and mobilized rational voters to defeat the Republican Party and send it to the dustbin.
The American racist has no sense of history; Africans were captured, put in chains, shipped to a foreign land, sold into slavery, had their families destroyed, their women raped, a debasement unheard of in human history. Then they were released from their physical imprisonment, but with grievous injuries to their culture, starting from less than zero, continually persecuted by racist organizations like the KKK, prevented from being full citizens by Jim Crow, forced to live in segregated communities, prevented from fully having access to equal opportunities even to this day, and yet the racist thugs out there contend that it is justified to kill any black teenager because so many young black teens are lost souls who never had a chance and never will have a chance because of all of the history that came before they were born? There is no reason why you white racists haven't succeeded, but there are a myriad of reasons why African-American culture is in the condition it finds itself in 2013. But racists have no empathy for a people who were brought here as slaves. Only hate.

Racists, your day is over. The irony is Obama "owns" you racists. He beat you all like a rented mule and will do so in the future. You lose, losers. LOL!!!

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78parlayhenry(219 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

"There is also a partisan tinge to the public views. Among whites, 70 percent of Republicans but only 30 percent of Democrats say they approve of the verdict." Voters, that's all you need to know; RepubliKKKan and Racist both start with "R". Send the racists to the dustbin in 2014 and 2016.

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79AnotherAverageCitizen(1174 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

Where is Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson?

They have found 3 African American women killed in Cleveland.

WHY? WHY? Why are they not in Cleveland trying to find their killer and protecting the rights of these 3 women?

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80oneton(5 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

George Zimmerman is a registered democrat and voted for Obama.
Just because someone feels the verdict is correct or voted for Romney does not make them a racist. In fact people who label them as such are actually racist.
Racism is an issue that needs addressed in the US, but calling everybody “racist” who sees things thinks differently than you does not help.
By the way I voted for Obama the first election and not the second because after four plus years I am very dissatisfied with his fiscal policy and reckless spending, not because of what color he is.

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81Robert_Neville(123 comments)posted 1 year, 2 months ago

JS this is a new move for the Democrats. It is called the vote and smash move. All the Democrats care about is were is the beacon. Nothing more. The next thing is we need to go into Syria to free the FSA and the brotherhood.

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82dmacker(274 comments)posted 1 year, 1 month ago

Interesting information not heard by the jury in the Zimmerman trial.

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83cambridge(3013 comments)posted 1 year, 1 month ago

Interesting information not heard by the jury in the zimmerman trial.


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84southsidedave(4780 comments)posted 1 year, 1 month ago

If this had been a black on black or a white on white crime, we would have never known the names of Zimmerman or Martin. The media loves to inflate crimes and make them all racially motivated.

We were not there and have no idea what transpired, enough already.

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