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An uncivil war is being waged

Published: Mon, July 8, 2013 @ 12:00 a.m.

An uncivil war is being waged

There’s a war on in the USA, and it’s between conservatives and liberals. They both have an agenda on what’s best for the country. A few things I have learned along the way are that liberals protest war and injustice and conservatives protest health care. Unlike conservatives, liberals believe that corporations are not people, money is not free speech and Social Security is not an entitlement.

Conservatives think that our jobs are more important if they are shipped to China and Mexico. They don’t seem to get it that everyone does better when everyone does better. Conservatives also have their own news channel, Fox News. I consider Fox News my comedy channel, and my news source is Comedy Central.

After reading about the Revolutionary War and the preparing and passage of our Constitution, I have come to the conclusion that the founding fathers were liberals and radicals, not conservatives.

The labor movement for years has fought to help workers earn a living wage. Liberals have fought alongside labor to help workers get weekends off, health care and a say so on the shop floor. Conservatives in this Congress are trying to eliminate all of the gains made throughout the years. They take care of the richest 1 percent; liberals fight for the other 99.

One last thing. As everyone can see, the Republicans love the poor, that’s why they want to make so many more of them. One thing we can’t do in this country is let the tea party and their corporate buddies take over the reins of government. They already control the Supreme Court and the House. If they control the Senate and the presidency, God help us.

Bud McKelvey, Hermitage


1ytownsteelman(663 comments)posted 2 years ago

Bud, you have a woefully inaccurate view of conservatives to say the least. First off, you don't understand what the concept behind "Corporations are people" really is all about. You benefit every day from the legal principle that a corporation is treated as an artificial person in the eyes of the law. It would be a waste of keystrokes to try to explain it to you, but what you think "corporations are people" means and what it really means are two separate things.

Secondly, Social Security IS an entitlement. Do you know what the definition of entitlement is? It is a payment that a citizen is ENTITLED TO from the govt. Did you not pay into SS all of your working years? Are you not entitled to SS payments in your retirement? Of course you think you are. So why then would you want congress to redefine SS as discretionary spending and put it at the whim of the budget process.

You say "Conservatives think that our jobs are more important if they are shipped to China and Mexico." I don't even know what you mean by this. More important to whom? I don't think you will find many conservatives who feel this way, but you will find many business people (and that includes a lot of liberals too) who realize that in order to compete and to sell their products that they have to make them more inexpensively. in many cases it isn't a choice between continuing to make a widget in the US vs. making it in China, the real choice is between going out of business and making it in China. Your thinking is all over the map on this issue as well, because in one breath you complain about outsourcing and then in the next you praise the very actions that are causing the outsourcing; living wage, healthcare and general high cost of US labor. So which do you want? You can't have both.

In the future Mr. McKelvey, please do a bit of research before writing your letter to the editor so that you don't appear a fool. Learn the true meaning of the concepts that you rail about, and at least be consistent in your opinions. But if not that is ok. I'll sit here and blow holes through your arguments all day long.

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2jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years ago

Gallup: Fox News Leading Single Source for News.

Bill Oreilly just raised over $5,000,000 to buy every GI, who lost 1 or 2 legs, in AFG or Iraq, a Trac Chair. Each Trac Chair costs $15,000.

I wonder if McKelvey can name anyone from MSNBC, CNN, PBS, ABC, CBS, or NBC that can match that.

McKelvey is probably being led by the nose, by his union, that tells him HOW TO THINK, because he certainly cannot think for himself.


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3jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years ago

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inShare.0Television is America's main source for news about current events — and Fox News is the leading single source for news, an eye-opening new Gallup poll reveals.

Overall, 55 percent of respondents say that television is their main source for news, while 21 percent rely on the Internet as their main source. Only 9 percent now cite newspapers or other print publications as their main source, and 6 percent say radio.

In the survey of more than 2,000 adults, 26 percent cite television as their main source without naming a particular network or station, and 4 percent cite local TV news, while 8 percent say they rely on Fox News as their main source, ahead of CNN at 7 percent.

Remarkably, just 1 percent cite ABC or NBC, and less than 0.5 percent name CBS. Among other cable sources, a scant 1 percent rely on MSNBC, CNBC, or PBS.

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4jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years ago

Hey McKelvey, what's the difference between Nixon's 1972 Watergate cover-up & Obama's 2012 Benghazi cover-up?


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5TB(1167 comments)posted 2 years ago

Nice Letter Bud. Gotta Enjoy The People On Here Who Excuse And Argue For The Billionaires While Giving Them Enough To Delude Themselves That They Are Prosperous.

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6AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 2 years ago

Steelman says " you praise the very actions that are causing the outsourcing; living wage, healthcare""

What is so wrong about a person who goes to work everyday, and actually asks for a living wage from it? Or are you the lawn care provider that only asks for $1.25 to cut someones grass? Or are you the lawn care provider that charges enough so you can make a livable wage?

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7jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years ago

There are more people on Welfare in Illinois than there are people working.

Chicago pays the highest wages to teachers than anywhere else in the U.S. averaging $110,000/year.

Their pensions average 80-90% of their income. You can't blame that on republicans because there aren't any.

Wow, are Illinois and Chicago great or what?

Be sure to read till the end. I've never heard it explained better.

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?

Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago.

221 killed in Iraq AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.

Here's the Chicago chain of command:

. President: Barack Hussein Obama

. Senator: Dick Durbin

. House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.

. Governor: Pat Quinn

. House leader: Mike Madigan

. Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)

. Mayor: Rohm Emanuel

. The leadership in Illinois - all Democrats.

. Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.

. Of course, they're all blaming each other.

. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

. Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any! . State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

. Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. Can't blame Republicans; there aren’t any! This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois. And he is going to 'fix' Washington politics for us?

. George Ryan is no longer Governor, he is in the big house.

. Of course he was replaced by Rob Blajegovitch who is...that's right, also in the big house.

. And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a couple of weeks ago. That is because he is fighting being sent to...that's right, the big house.

. The Land of Lincoln, where our governors make our license plates.

But you know what?

As long as they keep providing entitlements to the population of Chicago, nothing is going to change, except the state will go broke before the country does.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."

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8jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years ago

How many billionaires are there in Poland & Canfield? Remember they usually vote Repub.

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9redeye1(5112 comments)posted 2 years ago

AAC Just going to work doesn't mean a person is entitled to a living wage. That should held for those that do their job well and correctly.. Its the unions who have screwed over their members by making corporations pay people who don't put in a full days work

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10jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years ago

Give the man a fish & he will eat for a day. Teach the man to fish & he will eat for a lifetime.

2013 Version

Give the man a welfare check, a free cellphone, free internet, cash for a clunker, food stamps, section 8 housing, free contraceptives, Medicaid, 99 weeks of unemployment, free medicine, & he will vote Democrat for the rest of his life even after he's dead.

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11jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years ago

The Obamanomics transformation of America is nearly complete. The most recent unemployment report, which was supposed to be mildly optimistic, was actually a fresh milestone in the evolution of Waiter and Waitress America, as full-time career and manufacturing positions vanished, to replaced by a wave of part-time service industry jobs. If the President was a Republican, the media would be having a seizure over this, but instead they prattle about how job creation was “better than expected.”

But the news gets even worse, as CNS News reports that our shriveled full-time private sector workforce is now smaller than the number of people who receive subsidized food assistance from the federal government:

The U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that a total of 101,000,000 people currently participate in at least one of the 15 food programs offered by the agency, at a cost of $114 billion in fiscal year 2012.

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12jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years ago

Look who's new in the white house!
Arif Alikhan - Assistant Secretary for Policy Development
for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security

Mohammed Elibiary - Homeland Security Adviser

Rashad Hussain - Special Envoy to the (OIC)
Organization of the Islamic Conference

Salam al-Marayati - Obama Adviser –
Founder, Muslim Public Affairs Council,
and its current executive director

Imam Mohamed Magid - Obama's Sharia Czar –
Islamic Society of North America
(radical muslim cleric)

Eboo Patel - Advisory Council on Faith-Based
Neighborhood Partnerships

This is flat out scary!!!!

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