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Closeup look at the ways Ohio budget will affect you

Published: Sun, July 7, 2013 @ 12:09 a.m.

Taxpayers, casino bettors, cigarello smokers face new rules

By Marc Kovac



On a Sunday night, hours shy of the start of the new fiscal year, staffers rolled a cart into the governor’s ceremonial office laden with stacks of paper.

The more than 2 feet of legislation and the legalese contained therein marked the completion of months of debate over how the state should spend taxpayer dollars over the next two years, along with a large dose of policy and law changes.

Officially known as House Bill 59, there’s something in it for everyone, whether you pay taxes, drive on Ohio highways, breed wild animals, bet at casinos, have kids who attend public or private schools, keep tabs on government meetings or own a dog.

Since taxes generally accompany death among certainties in life, we’ll start with the former and run through more than 75 ways the Ohio budget may affect you. Here today are the first 27:

1According to Gary Gudmundson, spokesman for the Ohio Department of Taxation, the eventual 10 percent reduction will save a family of four with a household income of $50,000 close to $100 a year.

Part of that could come in the form of bigger paychecks, as some businesses shift to new withholding tables. Or it could come in bigger tax refunds or lower tax bills during filing season.



1timOthy(802 comments)posted 3 years ago


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2NoBS(2814 comments)posted 3 years ago

Kasich is trying to keep a low profile, and pretending to want to get along, in the hope of being reelected. Never forget "If you don't get on the bus, we'll run you over with the bus!" Never forget "He's an *a-hole*!!" (referring to the cop who had the audacity to give Kasich a traffic ticket). Never forget SB 5!

Private corporations getting piles of taxpayer money, with zero accountability? Kasich. Hiring out-of-state cronies into key positions in Ohio government? Kasich.

Nuts to Kasich!

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3AtownAugie(891 comments)posted 3 years ago

@tim0thy: I agree! After all, who in their right mind wants lower taxes?! Only an idiot wants to keep more of what THEY earn! All smart people know it's much better to give most -- if not all! -- of what THEY earn to the all-knowing and caring government! (btw, tim0thy -- nothing prevents you from sending a personal donation, over-and-above what you already pay in taxes, to the government's coffers. All truly caring people are doing that. Oh...maybe they send it to private charities THEY decide to help.)

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4Boar7734(66 comments)posted 3 years ago

Ohiooption is correct the "earned income tax method" is far superior than the "traditional income tax method" for school income tax. Most residents do not understand the differences. The State of Ohio has not corrected the illegal property tax method for taxation for schools. All school new or renewal property tax levies should be voted down. Starve the beast. Let the school boards and supers lobby to resolve this issue. If the past funding keeps on flowing nothing chages.

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5papa1(711 comments)posted 3 years ago

Kasich, along with repub govs in Michigan, Indiana, florida, and elsewhere are trying to kill public education. they want to privatize everything, no matter what it is. it's all about making the rich richer and keeping down the middle class and the poor. I think the term, republican Christian is an oxymoron.

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6borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

papa, The way I look at this is the democrats are trying just as hard to keep the poor,poorer. Thus they control those people and as they bring more and more middle class people into poverty the democrats will soon control them. Control=votes. The question you and your fellow liberals must ask yourselves is who would you rather have control you and the country? You can have business and rich people benefiting with lawmakers still in control of our country or you can have government control our lives with only themselves making their own laws to keep the people in check. Which do you prefer?

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7borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

gdog, Obviously you're standing in front of a mirror?

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8TB(1167 comments)posted 3 years ago

It's A Tax And Spend Budget That Is The Highest Expenditure In The Past 12 Years At Least. In Order To Spend The Increased Amount Kasich Has To Raise Taxes And Cut Spending On Programs For Local Governments, Keeping That Money In The Beltway To Spend On Failed And Illegal Programs Like Jobsohio.

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9borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

gdog, You can continue with your immature name calling and be blind to your eroding freedom. If it wasn't for Fox News most of the country wouldn't know about Benghazi,the IRS scandal,the phone surveillance scandal and so on. So you just continue to hear what your government wants you to hear and they'll have another low information voter to control. Once again gdog who would you rather control you, or who's most dangerous? Business or government. Educated answers only.

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10TB(1167 comments)posted 3 years ago

you Mean The Businesses We Bailed Out?

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11borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

Yes, the businesses were bailed out by the majority of our government. And why? Because they can. The businesses cannot "take" our money, but this president and our government can and does whatever they want with it. Get used to it.

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12TB(1167 comments)posted 3 years ago

And The Businesses Don't? Tax Agreements, Relaxing Trade Laws And Regulations, Noncompliance With Existing Federal Guidelines, Moving Jobs Overseas? These Are The People You Would Rather Trust? At Least We Can Vote Out The Politicians.

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13borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

TB, And replace the politicians with whom? Politicians? Businesses only get away with what governments allow them. If you don't like a business,don't support it. You don't like government you're anarchist. Or the IRS penalizes you or your group. You libs better get off this I'm cool because I'm a lib and really look hard at how much power the government has over us and how much more in the next 10 years they'll have. It's not you versus me,it's the government versus us.

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14TB(1167 comments)posted 3 years ago

Once Again, I Forgot You Don't Actually Answer Questions.

IM Cool Because IM Me, Regardless Of Political Affiliation. You Better Get Off Being A Pompous Blowhard And Look At How Business Has And Continues To Rape This Country And It's People.

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15borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

TB,Boy I must of really hit a nerve. Don't you know how to handle your emotions? You're a sad and angry little boy.

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16borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

TB, Nice red herring you threw out there. That I don't answer questions. You jumped into this debate and I've tried to answer your questions, however you have avoided the premise of my debate and my question: Who is most dangerous,government or business? Don't come unhinged,just answer the question.

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17TB(1167 comments)posted 3 years ago

Ignoring Posts So You Can Continue Making Your Unsupported Arguments...But I'll Play Along.

Unregulated Business Is Much More Dangerous. The entire World Economy Nearly Collapsed Less Than A Decade Ago. That Was Purely A Result Of The Business Decor, As Were The Bubbles And Deregulation That Preceded It.

There Are many historical Examples AS well,Namely The Great Depression. The Actions Of The Government Pale In Comparison To The Wreckage Left Behind In Both Overhear Instances.

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18borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

TB, The entire world economy that nearly collapsed,wasn't that a result of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,two government backed entities, with the total support of two liberals Barney Frank and Chris Dodd? How about the GM bailout? 50 million given to them by our government. Solyndra? Half a billion given away to Obama supporters,by our government. General Electric pays no taxes and does a lot of business overseas. Their CEO Jeffery Immelt sits on one Obama's committees and is one of Obama's best friends. As long as people like you buy into the business is evil mantra and government is good for you,government will increase it's control of the people and you and I won't have a prayer of having a say in the way they do the "government's business".

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19TB(1167 comments)posted 3 years ago

Actually, They Were A Result Of Derivatives, Credit Default Swaps, Banks Knowingly Misleading Their Clients And Investors, And The Industry appRoving Loans To People Who Had NoOr Bad Credit. Do Your Homework. Freddie Mac And Fannie MSE Were A Smaller Piece Of A Much Larger Industry That Simply Seeks To Exploit Whomever It Can In Order To Profit, Hence The ContinuD Rollback And Lack Of Reform On Wall Street, Which Only Congress Can Control. (There's Some Civics For You.)

The GM bailout Us Not An Example Of Government Excess, BUT That Of The Business World Again. An Flailing Company Unwilling To Reform itself, And The Government Forced To Come In AnD attempt To Clean Up A mess Caused, Yet Again, By Business.

YouR Ge Example Only Further Prices My Point...That Business Only Seeks To Further Corrupt A System In Any Way It Can To Continue To Exploit Consumers And Investors.

If People Like You Continue To Buy Into The Gordon Gecko Mantra That "Greed Us Good" And Refuse To Acknowledge The Social Contract By Which We All Live As members Of A Society, Then We Can Continue To See Abuses Perpetrated And The Ordinary Man Lose Out.

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20borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

TB. You live off of your government and I'll live off of my businesses. The government has the power to own you. Businesses can't own me. One more fact: Obama won Ohio in 2012 because he used the GM bailout as he saved Ohio and thousands of jobs. He bought Ohio with our money. 2nd fact: Freddie and Fannie played a much bigger role than you're being led to believe and it was government that told the banks to quit redlining and encouraged banks to look at subprime loans. It's the liberal dream(especially Dodd and Frank) that everybody live the American dream and own their own house.

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21TB(1167 comments)posted 3 years ago

Your Facts Are Not Facts,But conjectures. Look Up The Difference. You Can't Make A Blanket Assumption About Every Voter In Ohio.

Businesses Have The Power To Own You As We'll...You Just Don't See It. are You living Off The Grid? I'll Assume Not Since You Are Posting On The Internet brought To You By Government developmenT.

Banks Were Never Forced To Abandon Anything. If Anything Regulations Were Loosened During The Bush Administration. Banks Were Never Forced To Issue Subprime Loans. Investment Banks Developed Credit Default Swaps As A Way To Game The SysteM. They WRe Willingly Betting Against Their Own Investors. None Of That Has Anything To Do With Freddie Mac Of Fannie Mae. You Lack An Understanding Of The Direct Causes Of The Global Economic Meltdown. I Suggest You Study The Problem Further, As You Appear To Only Have Knowledge Of Two Banks, Regardless Of Larger Private Entities.

I Don't Know Too Many People Who Feel Everyone Should Own A House, Regardless Of Political Affiliation. Again, Your Inability To Discern Fact From FictionAnd Make Blanket Assumptions Shows. And If You Don't Think Big Business Owns You, Then You Are Unable ToAre Beyond Your Nose. The Entire Global Economy Is Controlled BY Business, Not Government, As Evidenced By The Global Economic Meltdown.

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22borylie(949 comments)posted 3 years ago

TB, How much time could you save if you used all caps or just lower case? The Bush Administration was also government. The entire global economy is controlled by business? No poop. Of course they do,who else makes and sells a product for a profit? The government does not make or sell a product. It takes it's profits from businesses and individuals who pay taxes. You are a clown when you make statements like that. I can no longer debate with people of such minimal knowledge of how business works. And if I wanted to cancel my Time Warner, I could. If I didn't want to buy a car and walk, I could. Business can't own me. Don't pay your taxes genius and see who owns your butt.

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23TB(1167 comments)posted 3 years ago

Thanks For Finally Agreeing With Me.

As Usual You Resort To Name Calling Instead Of Debate. I've Made Salient Points that You Are Unable To Rebut, So You Simply Dip Out .

Good Luck Having A Conversation With Someone Longer Than 30 Seconds.

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