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Dr. Phil McGraw says Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, who masterminded the dead girlfriend hoax involving Manti Te’o, told him the Notre Dame linebacker was not involved in the scheme and that he ended up falling “deeply, romantically” in love with the football player.
McGraw spoke on the “Today” show Wednesday, previewing an interview he did with Tuiasosopo, a 22-year-old California man who created the fictional woman Te’o knew as Lennay Kekua. Tuiasosopo’s interview with McGraw will air in two parts on the “Dr. Phil Show” starting today.
Since the hoax was revealed earlier this month, Te’o has said the relationship with Kekua started online and eventually became serious, even though the two only talked on the phone and exchanged electronic messages, never meeting in person. Te’o said he was told of Kekua’s “death” from leukemia just hours after his grandmother died in September.
McGraw said Tuiasosopo told him the voice of Kekua was his. Tuiasosopo and Te’o have each said that while the Kekua relationship went on for several years, there were times when they weren’t in contact.
“There were many times where Manti and Lennay had broken up. But something would bring them back together whether it was something going on in his life, or in Lennay’s life, in this case in my life,” Tuiasosopo said.
Tuiasosopo said he wanted to end the relationship before he had to fake Kekua’s death.
“I wanted to end it because everything I had gone through, I finally realized that I just had to move on with my life and I had to get me, Ronaiah, I had to start just living and let this go,” Tuiasosopo said.
Te’o’s publicist, Matthew Hiltzik, declined comment on behalf of Te’o and his family.
When the ruse was reported by Deadspin.com on Jan. 16, the report raised the questions about whether Te’o was involved. The story about how he played inspirationally after the deaths of his girlfriend and grandmother led to an outpouring of support from Notre Dame fans. It became the backdrop to the Fighting Irish’s undefeated regular season and run to the BCS championship, where they lost to Alabama.
Te’o won seven national awards for his play and was runner-up for the Heisman Trophy. He has denied any involvement from the beginning, and Notre Dame said an investigation of his claims backed up his story.
“The feelings, the pain, the sorrow, that was all real,” Te’o told Katie Couric in an interview last week.
McGraw says “absolutely, unequivocally” Te’o had no role in creating the hoax.
McGraw said he spent hours with Tuiasosopo and his parents, saying he had a number of life experiences that “damaged this young man in some very serious ways.”
McGraw said he asked Tuiasosopo if he is gay.
“He said, ‘Well, when you put it that way, yes.’ Then he caught himself and said, ‘I am confused,”’ McGraw said.
Te’o also was asked by Couric if he is gay. Te’o said “no” with a laugh. “Far from it. Faaaar from that,” he said.