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Study suggests major changes to traffic around YSU

Published: Fri, January 25, 2013 @ 12:07 a.m.

By David Skolnick

By David Skolnick



A study of streets on and near the Youngstown State University campus proposes significant changes to Lincoln Avenue, between Fifth and Wick avenues, along one of the institution’s busiest areas for pedestrian and vehicular traffic.

The proposal would eliminate most of the parking on the north side of the road and extend sidewalks on the south side into the streets to make the walk shorter and safer for pedestrians crossing Lincoln, said Charles Shasho, deputy director of the city’s public works department.

Shasho and W. Brian Hughes, senior project manager for MS Consultants, explained the proposal Thursday to city council’s safety committee. MS, of Youngstown, conducted the traffic study.

Sidewalk extensions also would slow down drivers, Shasho said.

The city and YSU received a $1.9 million grant in 2005 for the study and some design and construction work.

The MS study identifies options for improving the area bounded by Fifth Avenue to the west, Rayen Avenue to the south, Wick Avenue to the east and U.S. Route 422 to the north.

The cost of the Lincoln Avenue work, which Shasho said is the first street to be improved, isn’t determined.

Though saying “we’ve been hashing this out for a couple of years so we’d like to move on this,” Shasho added the Lincoln project wouldn’t start until 2016 at the earliest.

Other proposals would reduce a lane on Rayen Avenue between Walnut Street and Fifth Avenue as well as on Wick Avenue from Rayen to Route 422.


1NoBS(2762 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

"The proposal would eliminate most of the parking on the north side of the road and extend sidewalks on the south side into the streets to make the walk shorter and safer for pedestrians crossing Lincoln"

The city will lose money because of the removal of those parking meters - the kids who park at these meters have money, so by the time the meter is expired, the ticket is already on the car.

But how, exactly, will "extending the sidewalks into the streets" make anybody's walk shorter? Realize there are sidewalks currently on both the north and south sides of the street. They do run the length of the street. It's obviously, intentionally wrong statements like that which cause people to be suspicious of the city's cockamamie plans. What are they REALLY up to, and why?

Then we're told: "Sidewalk extensions also would slow down drivers, Shasho said." I'd LOVE to see a real-life example (not some engineer with zero experience's notion) of this actually being true. How can any adult even believe such nonsense? Further, is there an abnormal amount of pedestrians being hit as they cross the streets in crosswalks, which would even require the slowing down of traffic in that area?

So much of this story just doesn't make sense. And that the Vindy runs it as if blindly accepting everything in it as true - even when it's clearly not - lowers the Vindy's credibility even while it justifies the low credibility the city officials have.

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2walter_sobchak(2672 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

The idea is credible. The extensions from the south sidewalk will extend perpendicular from the existing curb out to the edge of the parking lane. This allows the pedestrians to stand at the end of the walk at the north side of the line of parked vehicles and reduce the distance of travel in the traffic lanes. Currently, the pedestrians are concealed by the parked cars while standing at a crosswalk. As far as slowing down traffic, it does happen. If someone crosses a street from between two parked cars, don't you normally slow down and pay attention to them? The biggest problem with Lincoln Ave. are the people that cross the street wherever they please.

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3UNCOMMONSENSE(622 comments)posted 3 years, 5 months ago

Please, have we become that pathetic that we can't cross a two lane street in downtown Youngstown?

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