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Video fueling reaction to rape case against Steubenville football players



Published: Fri, January 4, 2013 @ 10:51 p.m.

Associated Press

STEUBENVILLE

An online video fueling social media reaction to the case of two eastern Ohio high school football players charged with rape isn’t new evidence for state investigators handling the case, the attorney general said Friday.

The 16-year-old boys are set for trial Feb. 13 in juvenile court in Steubenville on allegations that they raped a teenage girl last August. Special prosecutors and a visiting judge are handling the case because local authorities knew people involved with the football team in the small city.

At a probable cause hearing last fall, teenagers not charged in the case testified that the victim was intoxicated and at times unresponsive on the night of the alleged assault, according to the local newspaper, the Steubenville Herald-Star.

Public interest increased this week with the online circulation of an unverified video, lasting more than 12 minutes, that purportedly shows another young man joking about the

alleged rape victim, also 16. The video apparently was released by hackers who allege more people were involved and should be held accountable.

Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine’s office said state investigators aiding local police were aware of the video before it spread online. They’re not commenting on details of the video or what other evidence authorities have.

DeWine criticized the video Friday and said his heart goes out to rape victims.

“I think what is unique and different about this case is that the victim continues to be victimized every time that there is some image that’s posted up on the Internet, every time that you have a despicable 12-minute video like we saw yesterday,” he said.


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1Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Get over it lady . This about football and if these young men need some out let for the pressure of the GAME let them have it now a then .IT's all about the team and the game .

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2gdog4766(1401 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Freeatlast is a gutless, dirtbag piece of sh$t. This persons parents must have been real scumbags to raise someone like this piece of human filth. Even if this dbag claims that they were being sarcastic, there are some things not to joke about. Hopefully these boys,will never recommit and this poor girl will get all the help needed to recover as much as she can. Vindy please ban this dirtbag Freeatlast.

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3excel(277 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

I believe that Freeatlast works for the Vindy.

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4Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

I was kidding !!!! . To bad you took it to heart .I did not think anybody was that stupid.
Sorry that you could think anybody would think like that . Maybe it show what's in your heart

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5Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

But maybe you should read some of the news papers from Steubenville

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6rmzrez(114 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

To freeatlast
. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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7gdog4766(1401 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Anybody who would joke about a juvenile being raped, and anyone who would defend him are both a$$holes!

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8theoldwrench(234 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Anyone who follows the news this type of thing happens all the time,you would find FAF is correct in many ways.. If they are good athelits or popular, people will defend them saying they just being boy,they were drinking, the girl was drunk etc. If it wasn,t for hackers this story would not even be out in the open.

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9GoPens(397 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

It's my understanding that Ursuline has Big Red on the schedule next year. In support of justice and this victim, they should remove Steubenville from the schedule.

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10Silence_Dogood(1317 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

freeatlast you must be a piece of s#!t, I would have to guess that if it were your daughter you would not be so flippant with your wisdom.But then again I might be wrong.

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11theoldwrench(234 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

What if it were your son what would you do. I bet no parent could have thought their son was capable of this type of action.

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12Attis(861 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

In New Dehli, India, a woman was gang raped; no one intervened to stop it; and no one went after the rapists until there was a public outcry. In Stuebenville, Ohio, a girl was gang raped; no one intervened to stop it; and no one really went after the rapists until there was a public cry. Is this the level of justice we, as a human family, have sunk to? That the rape vulture culture is so deeply embedded that only after a public outcry do the wheels of justice begin to move? We need more feminists in public office and on law enforcement.

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13Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

I was talking about the football players and how they seem the get away with things and no matter how bad it is the towns and fans look the other way . And cover it up . JUST look the PSU . If you and some took it wrong I'm sorry .But Towns like Steubenville and Ytown,
Penn state do cover-up this stuff.
It is not making a joke of the rape , But trying to show that things like football and it's fans let these things get sweep under the rug . They the rape's should get hung at the best . Not made hero's of at the next game .

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14Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

I still can't get over the fact these filthy, disease ridden, gross, sorry a@#, cockroaches are going to be tried in juvenile court. Sent these low life scums to the big boys. I'm sure they won't be laughing and joking about raping a girl. Pitiful pigs!

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15Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Your right Life2short . But the fact is they are football hero's in a football town .
This was almost covered up and they may still get a way with it . Look how long Sandusky at PSU got away with . This is the mentally of sport fans in this area .

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16kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

I thought in the news-story it said "alleged" rape. The boys are going to be tried next month- why all the uproar and frothing at the mouth now?

It sounds like a "lynch-mob" mentality to me stirred up by a bunch of deranged "Femi-nazis".

I have an idea. Save the criminal justice system some money and just take the boys out and publicly castrate them. Then send them home minus their privates and they'll never bother another woman again.

The same kind of punishment used to be meted out to Blacks in the Jim Crow South. It was called "lynching".

Of course, it just might be, the boys are innocent. The operative word is "alleged".

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17kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

I read some of these posts and I think where do they get all these morons. I didn't know Steubenville had this many Idiots.

Are some of them slipping over from West Virginia?

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18kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Lifes2short: "Filthy, disease, ridden, scum, pigs, etc" What is your problem, man? Or should I say- "Lady"- because it sounds to me you're a woman afflicted by the viral disease "feminism" (like rabies in a dog- incurable- all you can do is shoot them and hope for the best).

Don't you believe in the Criminal Justice System at all? They're being tried as Juveniles and I am sure they will repent their acts. What would you rather do, lynch them? Have we truly descended to this?

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19kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

After all, rape is not the same as murder, is it? I'm sure the young lady, with counseling and God's Help, will eventually recover. The boy's lives have been harmed as well.

Much of this can be blamed on a media which inflames sexual urges without suitable release.

High Schools teach Sex Education, do they not? Maybe we should include instruction as to how young people can relieve their sexual tensions through judicious self-gratification. I think you know what I mean.

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20kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

What is Judy Jones' interest in all of this- doesn't she have enough Pedophile Priests- alleged or otherwise- to worry about that she has to concern herself about an alleged rape case involving two football players in Steubenville? Why all the hype anyway? The alleged defendants are scheduled to be tried next month- why not wait for that before frothing at the mouth?

Oh, I forgot- "femi-nazis" love to "froth at the mouth". It's what they do best.

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21LtMacGowan(633 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

As much as the 2 rapists disgust me. The people who were at those parties who did nothing to stop this disgust me even more. What kind of person just stands back and allows a woman to be gang raped?

I would very much like to see these 2 people tried in adult court. The harshest punishment the juvenile court can impose is imprisonment until age 21, and then worst of all their records are sealed. These two if convicted should have to register as sex offenders.

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22AtownParent(561 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Apparently not many of you actually follow the story and have read what happened that night, or you would not be defending those boys are calling it alleged. The girl was drugged. She had a drink on the way to a party and does not remember anything else from that day. She was intentionally lured out by friends of her ex boyfriend who wanted to get back at her. These boys took her to three different houses and parties and raped her over and over again while witnesses did nothing. And then as a final indecency, they urinated on her and left her in the front yard at the final party house they were at. People are outraged because the ex-boyfriend who set this all up is off the hook, as it looks as if there is a huge cover up attempt including intimidating the victim to not file charges in the beginning.

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23ytownreg(3 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Just like Stubenville it's about a sick culture. Adults allow it to go on. Innocent children suffer.Just like the Bhs teacher/coach put on leave for inappropriate conduct with students and volleyball players last March. The administration wore the victims down through several days of questioning while it took the administration a full week to make a report to Csb. Why? Schools are required to report immediately on cases of suspected abuse.
Boardman Police attempted to continue the political sweep and keep the district's secrets by not conducting a proper investigation. How can touching young girls in school not be a felony? It was made out to be "just comments" that were made. Yes ,the teacher was removed
from school and the Mahoning County
prosecutors handled the case after several months elapsed and due to police reports from brave individuals. Not all girls reported since they thought telling the school after 4 interviews was enough. None involved police or csb. No charges being filed against a man who violated girls held under his power in
order to play sports. Girls that tried to report to the assistant female coach that brushed them off and didn't report to authorities either. She also is a teacher at BHS and nothing happened to her. Administration never acted sooner based on teacher reports to administration and to his boss (A.D.) for several years, they claimed it was
discrentled parents complaining about playing time when the bigger picture was abuse through sexual comments, kissing and touching girls. Comments to girls in front of his classes. It was public knowledge, yet adminstration claimed they knew nothing of it.
Why? Were they present in the school? Kids talked about it all the time.
The whole "investigation" was a hoax from the school to the prosectors office. What did we teach the kids? Not to report such doings and keep secrets so they do not get exploited. What they did bravely was to no avail.Meanwhile, this man is going about the community and the students that confessed have to see a sexual predator out and about suffering no consequences for abusing children. No charges, so look out churches who have rec sports and teachers. As far as the man not teaching well that
is great, but if he doesn't lose his license, he is free to teach and coach again in the public schools. Maybe he will just disappear out of state like another Boardman teacher did last year.
Why did it take Bhs administration 3 months to file a complaint to the state authorities? Same reason....they are protecting themselves and tainted the whole investigation to not look poorly with a tax levy going on the ballot this past November. A voted board member also had
knowledge of it all. A lot of egg on many officials faces. It is a real shame that children are not the priority in Boardman Schools, police department and courts in Mahoning County. Keep this in mind when votes need to happen in elections or tax levies.

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24Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

KURTW

""Don't you believe in the Criminal Justice System at all? They're being tried as Juveniles and I am sure they will repent their acts. What would you rather do, lynch them? Have we truly descended to this?""

"""After all, rape is not the same as murder, is it? I'm sure the young lady, with counseling and God's Help, will eventually recover. The boy's lives have been harmed as well.

Much of this can be blamed on a media which inflames sexual urges without suitable release.""""

If that was your DAUGHTER or someone you loved, would you feel/say the same thing? She was RAPED numerous times and was urinated on. How would you feel if that was your daughter???????

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25oldskool(96 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Well folks let me tell you this,
Had this happened to my daughter you would be reading about a murder trial for sure, MINE.
This should not even be a matter of debate.

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26LtMacGowan(633 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Whats sad is come Football season next year I'm sure the Big Red Rape Crew will all be playing.

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27kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Look, I don't have a daughter, but if I had a daughter and she was subjected to the kind of treatment described in this case- my feelings would be exactly as those of Lifes2Short and the other posts- I'd want to go out and kill them myself. But, in a civilized society- we can't do that. We have to allow the criminal justice system to run it's course.

Should they be tried as adults? Possibly. It sure sounds to me- urinating on the girl after they were done raping her- is an awful aggravating circumstance in favor of that course of action.

I go back to my statement in an earlier post- the Media which consistently inflames sexual tensions in young people- is a co-defendant in this case and should also be held liable.

Furthermore, what is wrong with teaching young people (in a Sex Education Course) how to discharge their sexual tensions on their own? What is preferable- That (I won't name it)- or going out and raping someone?

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28vinglass(223 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

kurtw... since when do guys need to be taught in school how to j___ off ??

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29IslandMike(739 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Kurt is right. Everyone has a right to DUE PROCESS and these kids are no different. I don't understand why everyone is up in arms over this. Explain to me where there is a cover up? The public is acting as if they've had a trial, been found guilty and then not punished. I bet it's the same people who wanted the Duke Lacrosse players sentenced to the death penalty a few years back. No one is saying the kids are INNOCENT, but they are innocent until PROVEN guilty. They have their right to a trial. These things take TIME, witness interviews, lab results (if there are any) examining the audio as well as the video etc... No one is condoning rape or violence, but EVERYONE has a right to DUE PROCESS, if the kids are guilty, the state can prove its case in court. People act as if the Police and Prosecutor's Office should have known about the alledged rape before the video surfaced. GROW UP.

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30Guins(13 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Kurt people like you are the reason rapists have such light punishments. To a victim they may as well be dead, this is not something they EVER get over. Their lives as they know it are over. They relive it over and over again. Yes counseling helps them learn to function but nothing can help them heal completely. The rapists lives may be inconvenienced for awhile but don't you dare make it seem as if that makes it even.

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31kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Were talking as if the guilt of the two football players was already clearly established and this was the "punishment" phase of the case. it doesn't work that way guys and, more significantly, gals. The offenses are "alleged" at this point and let's not forget that. The defendants deserve their day in court.

All this hysteria and "string em up" talk reminds me, eerily, of what took place in the "Jim Crow" South with African-americans. It was the same kind of vigil-ante mentality. If a black man even looked at a white woman the wrong way, the white-hooded riders came that night and strung him up. They didn't care about him or his humanity- he was a symbol, a scape-goat.

The "Femi-nazis" are in my view on the same order of irrationality and hysteria as the Jim Crow racists. These boys- Football players (I'll bet they also own guns, too)- of all things. Well, we know what Jocks are like. They're just like the Duke LaCrosse players, aren't they? Oops, that didn't turn out so well, did it? Another case of rushing to Judgement.

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32kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Re: "people like you are the reasons rapists have such light punishments".

I didn't know "convicted" rapists had light punishments. I read the paper everyday and I read about rapists, of woman, of children, etc- who are given extremely stiff sentences- many (well-deserved) years in prison. In the case of children, were usually talking about Life ( again, well deserved- death would be even better).

I'm not in favor of Rape. Never have been. What I do oppose, however, is "vigil- ante-ism" and a lynch mob mentality. Let the Criminal Justice System operate in this case, that's my view.

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33oldskool(96 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Island and Kurt,
I am a fan of due process as you say, however I also am a firm believer of protecting my family.
Guilt is in the eye of the beholder, they raped and pissed on someones daghter while she was passed out, period.
If she wanted it the way that it happened, I would still TCOB because it is WRONG!

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34IslandMike(739 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

@oldscholl,

Who made you judge, jury and executioner and what does this case have to do with protecting your family?

Guilt is to be determined by 12 jurors. If they are guilty like you (and I for that matter) think they are, then the State of Ohio can prove it in a court of law and then they'll be sentenced. The US is a civilized country and God forbid if we start reverting to vigilantyism. Everyony wanted to castrate the Duke Lacrosse players a few years back, they were punished before trial (kicked off their Lacrosse teams and expelled from the university) the ONLY problem was that they DIDN'T commit the crime of rape that they were accused of. They were steryotyped as being spoiled rich brat athletes! I guess if you've ever played a sport from fishing to football, it means you don't respect women and you condone rape, isn't that what everyone said in the Duke case?

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35kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Private Justice (as recommended) by "Old School" is not nearly as effective as the Criminal Justice System we currently have in place.

What could you, on your own,do that would take the place of that? Not much. Except get yourself incarcerated for taking the law into your own hands, and then you would be the criminal and not those who actually committed the crime.

Taking the law into your own hands never made sense and it never will. We're not living in a jungle.

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36oldskool(96 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

So that would be the same justice system that this news paper writes stories about at least twice a month of some useles thug getting early release and then killing an innocent child???

I will take my chances!

You apperantly don't live in the YO because this is a jungle my man.

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37kurtw(842 comments)posted 1 year, 6 months ago

Oldskool: You say Youngstown is a jungle, man?

Last time I went downtown, you know what I saw- Courthouses, three, four of them: City, County, Federal; then the Police Station, Two County Prisons, also, private Law Offices and the City Prosecutors office, also, a newspaper that let's us say and write what we want- up the hill a University, a Library... you catch my drift man?

If that's your idea of a "jungle" then I would say we're in pretty good shape.

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38fattynskinny(195 comments)posted 1 year, 4 months ago

you call this rape? i will never forget when my grandmother WAS raped. robbed, tied up and raped. that's rape!

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