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Downtown business owners fume over road closing for sewer project



Published: Sat, February 16, 2013 @ 12:01 a.m.

By DAVID SKOLNICK

skolnick@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

A major sewer project that has shut down a key section of West Federal Street, one of downtown’s busiest roads, for the past two weeks has some business owners up in arms.

Some owners on and near West Federal and Phelps streets say city officials failed to give them notice that the $1 million project to replace storm and sanitary sewers would shut off that area and Phelps between West Commerce and West Boardman streets.

Robert Faraglia, owner of Roberto’s Italian Ristorante at 103 W. Federal St., found out that the section of the street where his business is located was closed Feb. 4, the day the project started. A portable toilet also was placed in front of his restaurant.

“It was a complete surprise,” he said.

Next to the portable toilet, which was removed two days after he contacted Councilwoman Annie Gillam, D-1st, were three large metal pipes that are being placed in the ground as part of this project.

Complaints to city officials about the pipes were ignored, Faraglia said. They were moved Thursday after Faraglia asked workers with Marucci and Gaffney Excavating, the Youngstown company doing the job, to relocate them.

“There are two buildings east of me that are vacant,” Faraglia said. “They could have put all the equipment over there. Instead, I had a port-o-john in front of my restaurant.”

The road closing has hurt business, particularly when the project started, he said.

West Federal between Hazel and Market streets is restricted to local traffic only and is completely closed at the Phelps intersection. Also, Phelps between West Commerce and West Boardman streets is closed though motorists can drive the wrong way up Phelps between West Boardman and West Federal to park there. Those streets will reopen Tuesday, said Charles Shasho, deputy director of the city’s public works department.

Phelps between West Federal and West Commerce should reopen in a couple of weeks, he said.

The restrictions on West Federal have caused some havoc. A car trying to make a U-turn between Phelps and Market hit a streetlight, ripping it from its base. It is resting against a tree, the main reason why it hasn’t fallen to the ground. Large delivery trucks have had to drive in reverse on West Federal after deliveries until they reach Hazel, where a turn can be made easier.

Barry Silver, owner of Silver’s Vogue Shop at 27 W. Federal St., said, “I had no warning at all. A couple of days after work started, I was told by [a city employee] that there would be a disruption.”

The clothing store has seen a 50-percent decline in business since the road closure and restrictions, Silver said.

“The work needs to be done, but it would be nice if they gave me a warning first,” he said. “Also, there is more than enough room to have eastbound traffic on Federal [Street] turning onto Phelps toward Boardman [Street]. Communication is the key. If you’re warned, you don’t get the unexpected. But the city closed all of these blocks, and my customers can’t find parking so they’re just leaving.”

Shasho said he and Lyndsey Hughes, downtown director of events, special projects and marketing, went to several businesses in the affected area beforehand to tell them about the work. But, he said, they didn’t speak to every business owner.

Shasho said there was also a mention of the project in The Vindicator informing people about the road closures and restrictions.

“We’ve received a few calls [complaining], but there’s not a lot we can do,” he said. “It’s a large project. People need to be patient.”

He added: “I’m sorry for the inconvenience. Everything will be resolved shortly.”

Gillam, whose ward includes downtown, said the next time there is a project that affects this many businesses, the city should “make sure everybody knows. It was in the newspaper and on the news, but [in the future] we’ll have to pass out information to everyone downtown. We need to notify people a little bit different downtown. It affects their business. It’s been a mess there.”

City officials have complained that the state wasn’t keeping them informed of the illegal dumping of drilling waste on Salt Springs Road. While this is certainly not as serious, Gillam agreed that the city has an obligation to do a better job of informing business owners and residents about projects that have an impact such as this downtown improvement project.

Al Adi, owner of the Downtown Circle, a convenience store and deli at 116 W. Federal St., said the city “sent us a short notice that the road would be closed and the sewer would be repaired.”

The work has “hurt the business. A lot of people come from far away for our Mediterranean deli and can’t park near us,” he said. “But it’s better that it’s done now than in June, July, August and September. It’s for the betterment of downtown. But I hope to God they hurry up and get it done.”

The project will next move up Phelps to West Commerce, then to Lincoln Avenue. There is a pedestrian walkway between West Commerce and West Wood streets that will be dismantled and replaced, Shasho said.

The current bridge “zigzags” in about four locations. After the sewer lines are replaced, a new walkway will be built that will be straight except for one shift, Shasho said.

The steps are near Erie Terminal Place, a 40-apartment building at 112 W. Commerce St.

Dominic Marchionda, who owns the building, had urged the city to eliminate the “zigzags” as they’ve become locations for people to drink alcoholic beverages during the day.

“It’s been a problem,” Gillam said. “It’s become a bigger problem” in recent years.

About three years ago, the city replaced storm and sanitary sewers on Phelps Street between West Federal and West Front streets that closed traffic in that area.


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1whitesabbath(738 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

Stop your crying , be thankful it wasnt in the summer when your business is in its peak...

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2UNCOMMONSENSE(364 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

I think they have every right to cry. They invest their money where others would not and they park a porta-john outside your door??

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3ytownsteelman(628 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

Why couldn't Annie Gillam go door to door and talk to the business owners? She makes the comment that the city should "make sure everybody knows". Well she is the representative of the people in that area in city govt.,so she should have personally talked to the business owners.

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4UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

This is an example of how unqualified the City is in running itself. The City is loaded with the trackless, uneducated and unqualified leaders.

Now, they want to govern high tech horizontal drilling, what a joke!

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5YtownPens(2 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

Typical Youngstown. Shooting itself in the foot and realizing the effects after the fact.

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6UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

Time for a new form of City government with a City manager.

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7JoeFromHubbard(1038 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

I find it very hard to believe that the business owners were unaware of the disruptions that a sewer replacement project would cause.

It's major surgery with all of its attendant issues.

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8Robert_Neville(123 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

His information needs to be posted sooner. The problem with the information age is no one knows how to communicate. If this was posted on a website or even the Cindy this would have helped.

I just got back from South Korea yesterday and they post everything in the newspaper. It was very helpful. So next time the local government might want to get the word out.

I want to say one more thing. The business model the President mentioned was never talked about or even mentioned before this State of the Union. I live in the area an I never heard of it before. It is my fault for not digging more but if the leaders in the area do not inform the local population the fault is kn them.

So City of Youngstown pass information before projects are started.

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9Ytownnative(1035 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

Most places that have this type work done has a few crews out there surveying and marking with paint and flags all over the streets and grass if there is any well before any work is done. Wouldn't someone have noticed this and maybe asked?

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10walter_sobchak(1907 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

The responsibility for this falls directly on Mr. Shasho, who is supposed to be an engineer. It falls indirectly on the mayor as Mr Shasho serves as his appointee. This is handled rather simply. You make a press release to the local media that their will be a public meeting about this project. Then, a posting is made on the city of Youngstown's website about the meeting. Then, you make up a paper notice, make many copies, wake up one of the many city workers to pass them out to each business in and around the work area. Word gets around about the meeting in a few weeks, it is ultimately held, questions and concerns are raised and addressed. Having worked on a project on Phelps St. about 25 years ago, many basements of the buildings are under the public sidewalks. These building owners need to be informed.

Wow, that sounds way too difficult for the Deputy Director of Public Works, i.e. city engineer. Maybe the city should hire MS Consultants to be the city engineer under a contract and do away with this department.

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11PhilKidd(186 comments)posted 1 year, 7 months ago

I live and have a business where this downtown construction is taking place.

Yes, it is inconvenient but it is also necessary. The sewage pipes are over 100 years old and release an unpleasant odor. And there's too much development happening in this particular corridor to delay doing this project even 6 more months.

The city waited until after the holidays and want it completed before the weather gets warm. Good to go.

Yes, the city could have done a much better job of notifying business owners. A week notice is not acceptable.

The right way to do that (in addition to media notices) is go door-to-door. This way, you can also answer questions and work out concerns well in advance.

That being said, this isn't Lyndsey's job. She's an event director. This is the responsibility of, of course, Public Works director Chuck Shasho but also Councilwomen Gillam (who you rarely see downtown unless it is for a meeting or a press event).

This is why being organized is important. Downtown and neighborhoods need to be organized so they have a voice but also so officials and representatives have an entity to engage regarding issues such as this.

The forming of the Downtown Businessowners Association of Youngstown (DBAY) this month is timely.

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