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Youngstown school board rejects funding members' trip to Calif.

Published: Wed, April 10, 2013 @ 12:10 a.m.

By Denise Dick



If three city school board members want to attend a National School Boards Association conference this weekend in San Diego, they’ll have to pay for it themselves.

The school board on Tuesday rejected, by a 3-3 vote, spending about $4,113 for President Richard Atkinson and members Marcia Haire-Ellis and Brenda Kimble to attend the annual conference, which runs Saturday through Monday.

Atkinson, Haire-Ellis and Kimble voted in favor of the resolution with members Andrea Mahone, Rachel Hanni and Michael Murphy opposed. Without a majority vote, the resolution failed.

Lock P. Beachum Sr. didn’t attend Tuesday’s school board meeting. He’s in San Diego for the conference, but his attendance didn’t involve the expenditure of district funds.

Last month, the school board passed a resolution to spend about $12,000 for Beachum, Atkinson, Haire-Ellis, Kimble and Murphy to go to the conference.

Neither Mahone nor Hanni had planned to attend. Atkinson and Haire-Ellis planned to pay their own airfare.

But the district’s fiscal monitor, appointed by the Youngstown Schools Academic Distress Commission, rejected the earlier resolution.

Last December, the academic commission took over budget authority because of a projected district deficit. The commission, through the fiscal monitor, must approve all expenditures exceeding $5,000 and all contracts.

Tuesday’s resolution didn’t meet the $5,000 threshold. The three members planned to pay their own respective airfares and some other costs with Haire-Ellis and Kimble planning to share a room.

In other business, the board appointed James A. Reinhard, who has been the commission-appointed fiscal monitor since last December, as part-time treasurer.

Reinhard, who is the retired treasurer of Canton City Schools, will earn $60 per hour, not to exceed $70,000 annually.

His contract runs Monday through July 31, 2014.

The district has been without a permanent treasurer since May 2012.


1Not_Gilligans_Ginger(128 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Seriously? $60 an hour? While they pay a 1st year teacher around $26,000 a year to teach a classroom full of kids? Now I see what is more important. Money. Oh, wait! The plumbing is important too. I saw a job posting on the YCSD site offering $58,000 anually for a master plumber. Really? As an educator this SICKENS me.

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2Whinersarewieners(14 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

If you do the math, that's $70K a year for approximately 22 1/2 hours a week. That is less time than a child is in class! What a shame. Our kids and their teachers deserve more. We don't need some retired guy, who by the way is probably already collecting a pension, earning $70k a year. We really don't need to pay for "the board members'" vacation either. They should be paying for continuing education for teachers, tutors for the kids who are struggling due to large class size, and updated material.

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3RTS1416(117 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

58,000 for a master plumber is not at all out of line, in most parts of the country that would be a bargain. A quality skilled tradesman is difficult to find.

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4busyman(239 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

You do not like this guy based on your apprasial of his performance and nowyou would consider rehiring him on a contract basis.

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5TERRAPINST(302 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

My problem with this article isn't the salary of the Treasurer position it's the fact that not one but 4 Board members wanted to attend a conference for 12 GRAND- Seriously? Once again, the public officials need to take a lesson from private industry. it is important to stay in touch with professional development. Who knows, this could be the one where they instruct Bd. members how to oh ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING!! Therefore, send one Board Member and have them return and instruct the others in an in-service training as to what was shared. The idea of having multiple Board Members attend the same conference amounts to nothing more than Spring Break for our elected officials. Get your State required training hours at online COST EFFECTIVE sessions.

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6walter_sobchak(1909 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

$58,000 for a master plumber is about right. This is not an apprentice! It is a skilled trade. Maybe the teachers should take the time to instruct the students what a teacher makes to start, what a plumber can make, and let them see the benefits of obtaining a skill, either using their hands or their heads. Why is it that we demean those that do physical labor? Why do some think just because a person gets a four-year college degree they deserve some huge paycheck? Just like the clueless on in the White House that believes every kid should go to college. No they should not.

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7zz3(931 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The whole area has become a laughing stock. Our school board is about as ignorant as most of the students they turn out. Almost unbelievable if not for the decision making history of our school board in Thugstown. They all are a total waste of good taxpayer money. Pay them on their performance like commission. There would be alot of 0.00 paychecks.

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8Cicero(36 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The real shame here is that the three voting for the proposal attempted to get under the $ 5K radar, after the Commission (properly) noted that the expenditure - at any level - was inappropriate.

$58K is not out of line for a master plumber, nor is $ 60 /hr. inappropriate for a qualified Treasurer. These are not the real issues in this story.

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9123goz(580 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

"1st year teacher around $26,000 a year..."
that 'year' consists of less than 200 working days, summers and all make believe and legit holidays off, and working 8-3.

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10123goz(580 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

a quick google finds that an Apprentice Plumber makes in the 20's, and works all year. You are quick to point out that you think the new un-tested teacher is underpaid, but you neglect to mention the pay rates of the 'Master plumber' equal teacher.

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11TERRAPINST(302 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The above post lead me to think about the following. I know I know if you say something abut teachers or their guerilla warfare unions you hate children and don't care about the future or the country and don't appreciate being able to read I know ... I know. The following was given to me by my Republican teacher brother who has been in the system for 32 years and says its very accurate. I know, he must not be one of the dedicated protectors of our youth that all teachers claim to be BUT food for thought. Simply don't work near regular full time employees.
The average American worker:
52 weeks x 5 Days/week = 260 Days
4 weeks vacation/year = -16 Days*
10 holidays/year= -10
3 sick days/year= -3
3 personal days/year= -3
Total days worked 228 Days/ year
* 4 weeks vacation AFTER 4-5 years of employment
Work day is 8 hours WORK with 1/2 hr. unpaid lunch and 2/15 minutes break/day

The average teacher:
School year = 180 days
14 Holidays/year= -14
5 personal days/year= -5
7 Sick days/year- -7
? Vacation days/year= ? *
Total days worked 154 Days/ year
*I have heard rumors teachers get vacation time as well but not confirmed
Work day is 7 hours including a 1/2 hour PAID lunch and one hour FREE period/day

Now I know all the teachers are going to cry about ALL the EXTRA time they put in at home and the "continuing" education they have to do.
Here is the solution: Work an 8 hour day with an unpaid lunch like the rest of us and you can get it all done in school! What a novel concept, huh?

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12arod(264 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Why send them to California which has some of the worst public school systems in all of America? I know that the conference is there but there is little to learn from the educational people in CA.

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13gdog4766(1495 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Only these rescumlicans attack teachers, cops, and other public workers. The rescumlicans love this because detracts from them. Rescumlicans don't want to address the damage their party has done to our public school system. They avoid talking about how Taft opened the floodgates with his voucher system. They don't want to talk about Kasichs massive cuts,in funding. Only boy are those teachers overpaid. Idiots.

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14123goz(580 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

gdog, wrong! I am not repub, voted 'bama 2x's and Kasich is a theiving crook. My issue is the high falootin educator that thinks skilled workers are overpaid, and new teachers are underpaid. Besides, I posted the truth and you only have name calling to fall back on?

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15zz3(931 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

gdog those people mentioned just happen to be repsponsible for blight of this area. Can you dictate any crime fighting policies or counsil spending NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! I repeat NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Got it. So the people complaining about these idiots have the right because its in their expectations for these positions. And these people are for all purposes asleep at the wheel. And maybe Thugstown teachers may be overpaid only because they have a unattentive audience that could care less along with a school board that have their head up their a**. So attack them the problem

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