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Romney ads draw fire from automakers

Published: Wed, October 31, 2012 @ 12:10 a.m.

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By David Skolnick



Republican Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign is facing criticism on new TV and radio commercials about the auto industry rescue from not only Democrats and auto union leaders, but from officials with Chrysler and General Motors, which received federal bailout money.

The commercials came after Romney said last week in Defiance, Ohio, that he read an article that Chrysler “is thinking of moving all production [of Jeeps] to China.”

The TV and radio ads are playing in Ohio, including the Mahoning Valley.

Ohio is a key battleground state in the presidential election. Because the auto industry is one of the state’s biggest employers, the 2009 bailout of GM and Chrysler, led by President Barack Obama, a Democrat, is one of the main issues.

Not only have media fact-checkers debunked that claim, but Sergio Marchionne, the chief executive officer, called it “inaccurate,” and that he felt “obligated to unambiguously restate our position: Jeep production will not be moved from the United States [they’re assembled in Toledo] to China.”

Instead, Chrysler, an Italian-owned company, intends to resume Jeep production in China to satisfy that country’s demand for the vehicle, Marchionne said.

Romney’s campaign modified the GOP nominee’s remarks in the commercials.

But fact-checkers at various media outlets call them “misleading.”

The Washington Post called the TV commercial “an excellent example of an ad that has a series of statements that individually might be factually defensible, but the overall impression is misleading.”

The Associated Press says “the ad, while technically accurate in its claims, is misleading.”

Christopher Maloney, a Romney campaign spokesman, said, “Despite the baseless assertions of President Obama’s allies, the ad is factual.”

The TV commercial states that “Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney will fight for every American job.”

The radio ad, which started Tuesday, states: “Barack Obama says he saved the auto industry. But for who? Ohio or China? Under President Obama, GM cut 15,000 American jobs, but they are planning to double the number of cars built in China, which means 15,000 more jobs for China. And now comes word that Chrysler plans to start making Jeeps in, you guessed it, China.”

That led Greg Martin, a GM spokesman, to tell the Detroit Free Press: “We’ve clearly entered some parallel universe during these last few days. No amount of campaign politics at its cynical worst will diminish our record of creating jobs in the U.S.”

Maloney didn’t address the statements from Chrysler and GM officials.

But he said, “The partisan criticism proves that president’s allies are not interested in engaging in a meaningful conversation about the Obama administration’s record during the last week of the campaign.”

Bob King, the national United Auto Workers chairman, said Tuesday at the UAW Local 1112 hall that the ads are “unbelievable lies,” and “outrageous.”

The union hall is a short distance from the Lordstown GM complex that makes the best-selling Chevrolet Cruze, and employs 4,500 workers.

U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan of Niles, D-17th, said Romney has “hung himself now. He clearly lied and I think what’s so powerful about it is he didn’t get called out by Obama or [U.S. Sen.] Sherrod [Brown] or me. He got called out by Chrysler.”

Brown, campaigning at the UAW hall with about 200 in attendance, said Republicans are “desperate” when they discuss the $82 billion federal government’s rescue.

“I find it offensive and disingenuous that ... these people who fought the auto rescue and tried to defeat it would run that ad that is just clearly untrue about autos, about China,” Brown said.

In a Tuesday interview with The Vindicator, Steve Rattner, the former head of the president’s auto task force, said he was “amazed” by Martin’s critical comment.

GM and Chrysler officials “feel they’re being dragged into a political campaign in the most dishonest, cynical way,” Rattner said. “To be accused by someone who’s a presidential candidate of exporting jobs is infuriating. Romney crossed the line here. It’s one thing to have a point of view or to shape something to help a position. It’s another thing to just make things up out of whole cloth.”

Rattner said the comment was “irresponsible.”

Rattner said he didn’t expect Romney to apologize for the comment last week in Defiance, “but I didn’t expect him to double-down. He recut the ad to make it less false, but the insinuation is there.”

The Obama campaign began running a TV ad on Tuesday that calls Romney’s commercials “dishonest” and that Chrysler “refuted Romney’s lie.”

Maloney said: “At a time in which our economy is struggling, we should be working to bolster domestic manufacturing, job creation and exports as opposed to those of our foreign competitors.”

Brown brought his “Road to Ohio Jobs Tour” to Lordstown on Monday, the fifth day of the seven-day campaign. It was the 18th stop on a 25-community tour of the state in which the incumbent Democrat is talking about his support for middle-class jobs and growing the economy.

Brown’s campaign is traveling in Ohio-made Chevy Cruzes and a Jeep Wrangler.

Brown is in a tight race with Ohio Treasurer Josh Mandel, a Republican, for the Senate seat.

Brown criticized Mandel saying the two differ on several key issues such as the auto rescue, health care and Medicare, and trade.

Brown said Mandel is an opportunist who is more interested in his next job than good government.

In response, Mandel said he and Brown differ on many issues, and that his jobs plan “will make Ohio a world leader in manufacturing and energy development.”

Mandel’s campaign declined to comment on Romney’s comments and commercials about Chrysler and GM.


1michael1757(400 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

This is typical rommy the pig. Twisting words to fit his own needs. All he is is a liar,& he'll do anything,anything to make the president look bad. Even Christie didn't want him to come to NJ. Whats he gonna say about the great job he's,the President,doing with Sandy? He wasn't suppossed to be campaigning,but with his food drive,which he was told not to do,he's politicing this terrible storm. People have lost their lives,& he's campaigning to try to make himself look good. What a pig he is!!!

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2grazor50(84 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Let's look at facts: read this article about GM and not from ROMNEY it is from the news agency:
the article states that GM is investing $1B in Russia in the next 5 years. American taxpayers are the only reason GM is alive today, and this is how our taxpaying money is rewarded, by moving American jobs and work to RUSSIA!
GM still owes the taxpayers $27B from bailout money,,, this article is not about GM, it is about how they respect the country coming together. Lordstown,, take note,, the first cruze plant was not here,,, it was bought and paid for by US manufacturing in St. Petersburg, Russia to the tune of $900m a year before Lordstown was awarded the rights to the cruze. check these facts! SO STOP crying foul when the auto makers go overseas,, it is their practice!

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3chuck_carney(499 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Didn't Obama give away Chrysler to Fiat?

No money repaid for the taxpayers' interest. Thanks pres. Obama

Jon Heileman on MSNBC just argued that Chrysler would lose money on Jeeps sold to China if they were built in the US because of the high union labor costs.

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4lee(544 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

AOL had a story about GM spending $450MILLION in Argentina for a new car plant, that's from the Huffington post. Their is also a video of the CEO of GM talking to the Chinese about building a plant there

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5harleydog(243 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Let's see, it was ok for the Obama campaign to basically accuse Romney of murder because he cancelled some ladies insurance which was a out and out lie from the Chicago thug.

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6andersonathan(682 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Actually it was news before Romney said it. And another news source said if Jeep moved it would be to Italy. And if the CBO reports are correct GM will need another bailout in 2014-15 to cover their international failures and that bill is estimated at 10 billion.

Pay back to the government is also going slower and the rumors and lies of all paid back are out there.

You say Cruz, I say Volt

You say UAW is middle class and auto industry to big to let fail.

I say to the big three that wage, benefits, pensions and union perks put you in a position to fail and you did.

You want your house sided or painted for 1980 prices i want a simple work truck AM FM heat air roll down windows and that spray on cab liner with floor drain not some Luxury 5 door carpeted heated seats with TV's and XBOX hook ups. I WORK FOR A LIVING, I do not have a Job Bank, a pension plan, no one is going to pay me to retire early, let alone bail me out.

The AUTO INDUSTRY IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF FAILURE It is a assembly line job not brain surgery

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7DwightK(1399 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Romney has that stink of desperation about him. Why else would you say something so misleading?

By the way, there's nothing wrong with any company building a plant in a foreign country to sell their products there as long as production isn't taken away from America and the profits come back here. That's exactly what Toyota and Honda do and tens of thousands of Americans are employed at those assembly plants. I'd obviously prefer to build here and export but if it isn't feasible at least we'll get some of those Chinese profits back here.

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8greene(167 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

GM announced, today, it projects profitability in mid 2016. You paid $50.00 for GM stock selling in the low $20.00 range.

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9andersonathan(682 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

CBO [congressional budge]t has GM down in the Billions mostly in Europe and they still owe money to the Government! in the same time frame of 2014-15

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10eagleye(59 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Fiat DOES plan to move some Chrysler manufacturing to Italy, and they ARE considering building Jeeps in China. So....misleading? Not so much. However, where's the whining and yelling about the outright lying about what Romney said about having GM go through a structured bankruptcy instead of the Marxist style Obama "saving" of the industry. The NY Times wrote the headline that the DNC uses in their ad, and what the Obama ad claims has been PROVEN to be totally false by multiple media sources including the Washington Post fact checker, among others. So...where's the real lying, deception, and distortions?

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11DwightK(1399 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

EagleEye, it's misleading to present the fact that Jeeps will be built in China as proof that American jobs will move there. That isn't the case. It is additional production.

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12stewie(109 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

This moron Romney will say anything for a vote, all he know''s how to do is lie! Sueful, you want to talk lies? how about the lies that were told about w.m.d.'s in Iraq that cost over thousands of American lives! Oh , your ok as long as they are republican lies. This guy lies so much even he can't keep up with himself ! He has nothing else to run on. Won't tell anyone anything about any kind of plan ! You go ahead and vote for this crooked used car dealer. Anyone with common sense knows better.

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13cambridge(3451 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

romney is the most dishonest person I could ever think of. The guy will literally say anything. What does that say about the people that support such a scumbag?

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14rocky14(777 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago


You lie about as much as Romney

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15redeye1(5260 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

I'm going to predict right now That in five years most cars will be built overseas and then sent here. Yes Chrysler is talking about moving ALL production of the Jeeps to China in the near future.My relatives who work there were told its possibility Why, you might ask,our Corporate tax rate is way to high for them to make a decent profit.. If you look at a GM car today over 70% of the parts are made outside the US of A now.Soi whats stopping them from closing and moving. overseas.

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1676Ytown(1318 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Obama's promises 2008 vs 2012.


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17jojuggie(1608 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Liea-Lies-Lies - you guys will jump on anything.

"Instead, Chrysler, an Italian-owned company, intends to resume Jeep production in China to satisfy that country’s demand for the vehicle, Marchionne said."

Why don't you guys jump on "fast & furious," how about "Benghazi." One American dead in fast & furious & four dead in Benghazi.
All swept under the rug by Obama.

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18jojuggie(1608 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Obama is the most dishonest person I could think of. The guy will sweep anything under the rug. What does that say about the people that support that scumbag?

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19jojuggie(1608 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago



I wonder how Obama sleeps at night?

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20cambridge(3451 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

76....great post, it shows Obama's consistency and the fact that he keeps his eye on the ball. Very refreshing compared to romney changing his message by the minute. Thanks for the post.


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2176Ytown(1318 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Cambridge: Where's the hope and change?

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22redeye1(5260 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

cambridge What 76's post shows me is that BO ( Blame Others) hasn't done a damn thing that he said he would in 2008. So that also proves there hasn't been any changes. I want someone who will lead this country and not just give it lip service like BO. .

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23cambridge(3451 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

76....If you can't see the positive change in this country since the disaster left by the president cheney administration nothing I'm going to say will convince you....and to be honest I couldn't care less what you think.

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24DwightK(1399 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

The worst part about these ads are that they actually come from the candidate's campaign and he personally approves them. I would expect this garbage from Karl Rove and his Crossroads GPS haters but this is a candidate for president spreading these lies. How could we believe anything Romney says after hearing this?

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25AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Hman, I think you a confused. Listen to Willard Romney one day then listen the next day. Now you will understand who continues to lie, mislead and distort.

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26hugohound(17 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Firstly, our thoughts and prayers are with all those who suffered tragic loss in the path of the superstorm along the east cost, as well as other parts of the country. I agree it is time to not define as a Red State or a Blue State, but the UNITED STATES.

I would like to comment however on one point. I truely don't believe that Obama would have reacted so quickly and made such an appearance of being so truely concerned, if he didn't feel it was in his favor, being so close to the election.
Obama is one of the slickest Presidents in American History when it comes to trying to deceive the American People.
Where was he when Hurricaines ripped through the South, or during the crisis on Wall street, or when millions lost their homes to foreclosure and became homeless?
And where was he during the attacks which played out in real time in Libya?
We only know that he is there now, in front of millions,in front of the cameras, showing concern with the election 6 days away.

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27hugohound(17 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago






FOOL ME ONCE !!!!!!!

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28AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Hugo. Don't throw stones while in a glass house.

Do you really believe Willard would have been out the next day carrying water for the needy? If he were not running a campain. I never saw cameras showing Willard helping after katrina or anyother hurricane. Only now during election.

Oh, the crises on walll street was not under his watch. It was Bush bailing out the rich. $800 Billion.

Millions lost their jobs and foreclosed because of the recession Bush put us in. It was Obama that stopped the 800,000 a month losing their jobs under Bush.

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29Friendo(8 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Romney repeated what Bloomberg reported. The more important fact is that after Chrysler got a whole bunch of taxpayer money, it became a European company. How exactly is that a win? Over time when the parent company is foreign, more of the high paying jobs and all of the profits will go overseas. This might change if the business environment in the US was less hostile, but Obama keeps making it more hostile through tax increases and overregulation and making energy more expensive. Enough!

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30walter_sobchak(2306 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Within a week of the Katrina Hit on New Orleans in 2005, then-Gov. Romney fashioned a plan where he told the federal govt that Mass. was ready to accept 2500 Gulf-area evacuees at Otis AFB in Cape Cod with movement to permanent housing within 60 days. It was called Operation Helping Hand and the fed govt sent only 235 people because FEMA couldn't get the additional people to a plane. Gov. Romney also sent 535 National Guard Troops to the gulf to help. He also got the Mass. legislature to agree to fund additional aid for the victims. Romney used his organizational skills honed on the Olympics in Salt Lake. In the final analysis, the Boston Globe congratulated Romney on his response to the tragedy, calling it "deeply moral, defiantly non-partisan, crisply decisive, and nonchalantly generous". I'll bet Willard even donated some of his own off-shore money to the Red Cross. Here is a link to some video of Rev. Jeffrey Brown about the Gov's response to Katrina.



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31AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Romney used his organizational skills honed on the Olympics in Salt Lake.

Do you mean the 1.6 billion he got from the fed govt. to make him look like he save the olympics?

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32HonKevinTarpley(1 comment)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

I live in Mass. and when Gov. Romney claims that he worked with the dems in the House and Senate. He left out the fact that he was overriden by that same legisaltive body each year during the budget process to ensure that our citizens had the necessary services and protections of vital services and programs. He always has been a pander and hasn't changed in his efforts as candidate for president. Do not be fooled by this guy. We were happy when he left and hope he does not fool the American people now. We will be at war if this guy wins. No doubt about it.

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33jojuggie(1608 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Hey Hon Kevin, you must be a Dem. I have a daughter (Independent) who has lived in the Boston area for 24 years. She thinks Romney did a great job.

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34redeye1(5260 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

eggo Who is the biggest flip -flopper ? Well it's BO ( blame Others) one day he's white and the next he's black. Which is he? If that isn't a true flip-flopper I don't who is! He will go to a black rally and tell them he's for them and the next day he's for the whites. if look, most of the blacks are PO'd at him Why? I'm hearing rumors from my black friends that they aren't even voting for him . At least the smart ones aren't

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35DSquared(1531 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

The Biggest and Deadliest lie of this campaign.......Benghazi. Obama turned his back on US Ambassador and Navy Seals and allowed, yes allowed them to be butchered in cold blood! And the scariest part of this is that the military was told to "Stand Down". He really is King of the Muslim Brotherhood! (and the democrats!)

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36DSquared(1531 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

When Obama called the "SEALs", they got Bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obama, they got Denied!

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37VindyPost(436 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Romney in Trouble Once Again... With "Jeep" Shots!

Romney's campaign ads is dishonest! It's inaccuarate! No truth ; total deception!

Frankly, Romney is an" insult" to the citizens State of Ohio... and America. He simply Don't Care About You.

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38saddad(646 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Didnt the union workers at Delphi get 100% of their pension while the non-union got a percentage to be paid by the Pension Guarantee Fund?How does that prove that workers are raped by the union? Some people here seem to have lost all ability to think straight. I am made more sad by that.

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39IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Obama and Christie erasing the political lines and doing what they were elected to do. GREAT to see. No matter who wins, the country needs to get back to RESPECTING the Office of the President! We don't need to LIKE either PERSON, but the office is bigger than its occupant and should ALWAYS be RESPECTED!

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40Dagwood(314 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

RESPECTING the office of the President...Obama sure does, thats why he has rapper JAY-Z doing political ads for him. This is a guy whose most famous lyric is "I got 99 problems but a $%&@! aint one".

That lyric is PG compared to most of his songs. I love how "certain" radio stations are saying "All black people need to get out and vote for Obama, "Do you want Mitt Romney running your neighborhood?" exact quote heard on ad from Z107.9.How would this go over if 93.3 The Wolf or Y103 had ads telling white people to vote for Romney?

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41MzVirgoLuv(158 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

You know everyone on here wants to praise Romney and crap on Obama for giving out tax payer's money...It started under Bush and at least what Obama gave, GM is required to pay and have paid back most of what was owed....Now, all of you here want to bring up Benghazi and yell all sorts of irrelevant Republican talking points. Benghazi is being taken care of and at least there are suspects that have been arrested! Now, if the parents and spouses WANT Romney and you Republicans to stop POLITICIZING this, then I think you need to honor the families wishes and let our government do their job! Now, the question is, why isn't there any outrage to Romney's $15.3 Million cut of the Delphi money and bailout money. Where is the outrage for the $77,000 tax deduction for their horse? Where's the outrage for his begging the fed government for billions for the Olympics? Where's the outrage for his protesting IN FAVOR OF THE VIETNAM war in a country that we so hated during the Iraqi debacle? Where is the outrage for his vp's pick of bashing the bailout then begging for some of that mullah? Where is the praise for the President for keeping this country from falling off the grid financially? Where is the praise for the president for keeping this funky state afloat financially? That bailout didn't just save GM, it saved so many other businesses that depend on GM and it's workers to keep in business? Where is the praise for our president on the 14% rise in oil production? The rise in employment and lowering of the unemployment...and don't give me that crap about, oh not counting those that have left the work force (which accounts for 10,000 daily retiring of baby boomers), and this way has been done for decades, but when Obama is president, for some reason, it's not acceptable! Where is the praise for our president for taking down more potential terrorist and terrorist acts in our country in the history of any president. Where is the praise for the ONLY 1.4 TRILLION that he has added to the deficit that so many of you Republicans try to lie to the American ppl saying that he is the most spending president in history...and that has been debunked by EVERY SINGLE ECONOMIST AND CBO, MBO AND MORE! You know, I really wish that ppl would just be honest with themselves and in turn can be honest with others. I have an answer for Benghazi....Bush over 12,000 American lives lost under his policies and 4 Americans dead under Obama's watch...But Bush's policies altogether! Be honest ppl, all of those that can't stand having this Black man in office telling you what to do (which is a crock because we are a free country) just think how we (us colored, all of us colored ppl) felt for over 200 years! Now, here's a test....Take everything that he accomplished, and imagine his face and his body and his family as....wait..........


*Get a clue and stop being hateful....stop TRYING to be Christian and actually BE Christian!*

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42borylie(900 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

You're correct. I don't want a black man in the white house. Especially a full blown socialist and borderline communist. Bringing up Benghazi is about four Americans being murdered and could of it been avoided with proper leadership. Yet you and your ilk hung Abu Ghraib around President Bush's neck like he was the one pulling the terrorist by the leash. Hypocrite.

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43jojuggie(1608 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, respect the office of the President only when a Dem is in the office, HUH?.
How about when Bush was in office? He was hung in effigy more times than I can count.

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44cambridge(3451 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Obama 2012!

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45jojuggie(1608 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

This is mind blowing. Must watch!


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46IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago


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47dawn421(265 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

haha good one mike.

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48DwightK(1399 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, like Romney is going to give Delphi Retirees their pension back. LOL.

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49cambridge(3451 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

It would almost be worth it for romney to win just to see him tell the Delphi retirees to go pound sand....but that's not going to happen....win that is.

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50jojuggie(1608 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

More on Benghazi"


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51IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

A Liberal a Moderate and a Consevative walk into a bar..............

The Bartenders says, "whatta ya have Mitt?"

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52WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

A man with little intelligence, a man with little reason and a man with little genitals walk into a bar.

The bartender asks "What'll ya have IslandMike?"

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53faith(200 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

This is for the Delphi folks, I think I know where your pensions went, Willard Swiss bank account!! lol You folks were ignorant then and are ignorant now. That is a FACT!
WASHINGTON – A coalition of community, labor and good government organizations is calling on the U.S. Office of Government Ethics to investigate presidential candidate Mitt Romney for noncompliance with the Ethics in Government Act and compel him to either disclose his investments or divest them.
The Nation recently reported that the Romney family personally profited by at least $15.3 million from the auto loans of 2009 through his investment in the Delphi Corp. auto parts company. Yet Romney's June 1, 2012, Public Financial Disclosure Report to the Office of Government Ethics did not reveal this windfall because he did not disclose the underlying holdings of his private equity and limited partnership funds.

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54woodfoot(2 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Romney is a pathetic LIAR. He will say and or do anything to gain power. He has a sleezy history. Do NOT vote for this power hungry egomaniac.

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55faith(200 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

delphi salary folks would rater see 100,000 folks pensions go in the toilet than the few that did. In fact only 20% of delphi folks lost anything, and the ones that did were making more on retirement that a top paid UAW worker.Mitt made MILLIONS off of you and now you support him. What a joke. Sherrod Brown has been fighting for you, introduced legislation to get you paid and you fools will vote for the tea party puppet mandell. can you say IGNORANT. Thats what you are, ignorant fools.

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56jojuggie(1608 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Hey Faith & woodfoot, enough of your crap. How about FAST & FURIOUS At least 1 dead here. Have Obama answer the questions. How about BENGHAZI at least 4 dead here.

As for lies. Remember when Obama said a mariage was between 1 man & 1 woman? What happened?

Remember when he said that he will reduce our Natl Debt by 50 %? Well, he increased it by 50%.

Remember when he said that with his STIMULUS that unemployment would never exceed 6%? What happened?

All I ever hear is LIAR, SLEAZEY, IGNORANT from you DEMS.

Remember the DNC where they removed GOD from their platform? When they voted to put God back in, they had to take 4 votes & there were more nays than yeas? Finally they put God back into the platform & God was BOOED?

I'm an Independent. Never registered as a Dem or Repub. Voted for Clinton in his 2nd term, but this SOCIALIST Obama has to go. I don't want to see our debt go to 20 Trillion.

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57IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Sunday at 8 O'clock on National Geographic Channel


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58AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago


It amazes me that some Delphi folks will bite the hand that has tried to help them, Sherrod Brown.

I think they want mandell in the senate since we all know he never shows up.

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59saddad(646 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Those of you that understand the Democratic party to be their best hope must now chose between your own interests and those of the Delphi retirees. This guy Delphi Retiree has declared himself to be sided against the candidates we need to be elected. We dont need to side with him now however sympathetic we may have once been.

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60JD0101(2 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Obama slept and people died in Benghazi

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61rocky14(777 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago


You and Willard are Dumb and Dummer

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62AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Even NJ Gov Christie, (whom I have a new found respect for) has given GREAT PRAISE to OBAMA.

Thank YOU Mr Bloomberg.

Thank YOU Mr. Powell.

And Wed AM I will say thank you America and OHIO for re-electing PRESIDENT OBAMA.

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63IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Thank you Justice Roberts!!!

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64IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

SEAL TEAM SIX: The Hunt for Bin Laden

National Geographic Channel this Sunday at 8pm.


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65cathyrandino(1 comment)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

gm auto workers are over paid cry babies

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66walter_sobchak(2306 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

When Barack Hussein Obama called on Navy Seals to take out bin Laden, they saluted and they did their job. When the Navy Seals called for premission to help Americans in distress at the consulate in Benghazi, they were denied, told to stand down, thereby allowing Americans to be killed. Or, maybe White House officials just didn't want to wake the President since he was preparing for his fundraiser in Fabulous Las Vegas!

Remember the 2008 political ad by Hiilary Clinton asking who you want answering that 3:00am phone call? How prophetic!

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67IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Wow Walter,

That isn't what the CIA said. Of course why would you take their word for it when you can get the "no spin, fair and balanced" information from the Fixed Noise Network?

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68IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago


You act like the SEALS could have been in Benghazi in 15 minutes, as if you were ordering a pizza. At least you're crediting Obama with making the decision to have the SEALS take down Bin Laden. Mitt-Flopper would've NEVER had the guts to make the call Obama did.

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69IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Hey HATERS, read it and weep!!!

Obama has taken the lead back in Florida and widened his lead in Ohio!!


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70dmacker(397 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

And you wonder why Congress can't agree on anything.
Just read these comments and understand.

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71WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago


Check the numbers. The study is a dem +9 oversampling. Know what that means? Than means the numbers are skewed because far more dems the repubs were asked the polling questions. When the data is corrected for proper statistics O-bout-to-lose is actually trailing significantly.

Nice try though! So much for the MSM.

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72WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

NBC Propaganda Poll Finds Obama Beating Romney In Ohio By 6-Points, Uses D+9 Sample


"The likely voter pool in this survey included 38 percent who said they were Democrats, 29 percent who said they were Republicans, 32 percent who said they were Independents and 1 percent who said they had another affiliation."

"The same poll found 45% of likely voters in Ohio consider themselves “conservative” and only 23% claim to “liberal” and yet they still show Obama up six."

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73HSG(174 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Attention DELPHI retirees!!
Singer and Romney bought Delphi's debt, sacked the workers and refused to pay salaried workers' pensions EVEN with 1.4 Billion on hand.
Still wondering why Ann and Mitt don't want to show their tax returns?
DON'T BELIEVE THELIE that the Delphi debacle was all Obama's fault. Don't believe it for a second!
Check out:
www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/30/115... Ryan-blames- Obama

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74WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

If you think this is good performance then by all means vote for Bronco Bama.

-43 months of 8%+ unemployment
-16.2 trillion dollars in DEBT
-Al Qaeda is ALIVE
-Ambassador DEAD
-47 million on FOOD STAMPS
-MILLIONS left the labor force
-Grocery prices up 15%
-Income down 8.2%
-Gasoline prices up 250%
-Benghazi cover up.
-Fast n Furious cover up
-Billions in fraudulent "green" projects

Ohio votes for ROMNEY!

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75saddad(646 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

It seems that all of DelphiRetiree's post have been deleted. I think the Vindicator owes the public an explanation as to how this happens. Did he see the error of his ways after The Nations' article? I am not familiar with a user delete option here!!

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76saddad(646 comments)posted 2 years, 11 months ago

Come on Vindy--fill us in. What does it take for a posters recent history to be deleted in toto?

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77IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

HILLARY 2016!!!!

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78southsidedave(5126 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

I love reading the (generally) moronic comments in these posts...makes my day!

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79IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

Here is one,


Check the numbers. The study is a dem +9 oversampling. Know what that means? Than means the numbers are skewed because far more dems the repubs were asked the polling questions. When the data is corrected for proper statistics O-bout-to-lose is actually trailing significantly.

Nice try though! So much for the MSM

Looks like Will Swinger was WRONG (again), but hey, at least he's CONSISTENT!!!

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80IslandMike(764 comments)posted 2 years, 10 months ago

Swinger and his mathamatically challenged buddies at FIXED NOISE NETWORK fail to understand math (polling) and science (global warming). That's how you get an Obama victory and a hurricane hitting the northeast in late October. Karl Rove still thinks they've won.

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