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Clinton, Biden rally Democrats at the Covelli

Published: Mon, October 29, 2012 @ 5:40 p.m.

President Bill Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden rallied Valley Democrats at the Covelli Centre.

"He's doing the job the president is supposed to be doing," Biden said of President Barack Obama, who opted out of Monday's rally to monitor Hurricane Sandy developments. Obama canceled his appearance yesterday, sending Biden to join the rally with the former president.

Biden sounded familiar themes while attacking Republican challenger Mitt Romney, saying he was willing to bend on foreign policy, but not on women's issues. He also attacked Romney's budget plan, saying it "isn't sketchy. It's Etch-a-Sketchy."

Biden said Romney and his running mate U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan are "running from their shadow and you can't outrun your shadow."

"America is not in decline," Biden said as he wrapped up his 36-minute speech. "Gov. Romney and Congressman Ryan are in denial."

"Obama's education plan is better for the future of America," Clinton told the crowd earlier. Later he said, "3 million young people have health insurance under their parents' health care plan for the first time."

Meanwhile, the Covelli Centre was over it's 4,500 event capacity, reports Dave Skolnick, on hand for the Clinton/Vice President Joe Biden rally.

About 8,000 tickets were distributed and at least 500 ticket-holders have been turned away, a source told The Vindicator.

While the Covelli managed to get capacity up to 4,800, reporter Danny Restivo is outside the Covelli and he reports hundreds are outside chanting "We want in!"

Ronald G. Norwood, who just moved to Youngstown from Florida, said he is a lifelong Democrat and he plans to address the situation outside the Covelli with Mahoning County Party Chairman Dave Betras.

"This is disingenuous at best and egregious at worst," Norwood said, adding "It just dampens my spirit."

Reporter Ashley Luthern said Harry Meshel led the crowd in the Pledge of Allegiance, the Rev. Georgina Thorton gave the invocation and Chiara Williams drew a huge applause from the crowd with her rendition of the National Anthem.

U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan got a rousing welcome.

Keep watching Vindy.com for updates on the rally all afternoon.


1djgolf(6 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Yes, as a life long area Democrat I am now Independent. The candidates take this area for granted which leads me to vote Republican> They can promise anything never deliver and still get a vote here. Also we lost a small business, asked for a 10% reduction to an SBA payback; Obama's SBA lost our paper work then emailed us we were wealthy. Paid the whole loan and payroll out of pocket and savings. And all while GM unions were bailed out using tax payer dollars. 23B lost on our investment. NICE. Good to see the jobs stay but Romney's managed bankruptcy would have done the same. As usual, Democrats give all to special interest. Tell me how a Catholic can vote for these guys? Amazing

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2djgolf(6 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Dear delphi retiree...just signed the petition. Under the last 4 years we have turned to class and special interest warfare: Rich vs. poor, black vs. white, union vs salary, we could go on and on. This is the most divisive administration of my lifetime. Spend, promise and criticize with no plan for the future.

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3Silence_Dogood(1342 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

From several miles away I was able to tell when Biden started his speech,the wind picked up by about thirty mph.

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4walter_sobchak(1910 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

The Obama/Biden team rhetoric is getting very shrill because their ship is taking on water and sinking fast! America can see that Romney/Ryan are a viable alternative to get the economy growing again. The farce "War on Women" campaign has not worked and BHO no longer enjoys the huge lead among women. But, Romney has maintained his lead with men, especially white working-class (read "racist") men. Plus, in Ohio, this Delphi retiree issue will cost the ticket dearly.

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5HonestAbe(274 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Seriously, I cannot wait to see all of you eat your words next week. No chance Ohio will go for Romney...ergo...Obama is re-elected. The only way Romney takes Ohio is if he steals it. Gee...like that's never happened before....

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6commoncitizen(961 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

The vindicator and TV news should get their stories straight--one says 5,000 tickets and the other 8,000??
Biden said that the president couldn't make this rally "because he was doing what the president was suppose to be doing", what about what the president should have been doing in Lybia or doesn't saving American lives mean anything to him!!

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7HSG(123 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

This is the most divisive administration in my lifetime??? How old are you? Three? If you paid any attention to the news or picked up a newspaper once in awhile you would know that it's the republicans in congress that will do anything and everything to sabotage this president- including voting down a jobs plan that may actually create jobs. However, clueless people like you and others that have been brainwashed will continue to perpetuate these lies. I'm actually kind of embarrassed for you.

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8whybother(5 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Clinton is a whore, Biden is a puppet and Obama is afraid of a storm!!!!!

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9pwhite1027(106 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Only 2500 showed up for this joke. Wow, what a disgrace for the campaign.

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10Knightcap(699 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

16 trillion in debt. 12 million unemployed americans. $4 gas prices. No plan for economic expansion. Middleclass income shrank. More americans on welfare and food stamps.

That was the last 4 years. And you want to give this idiot another 4 years. Get your head examined before you do something stupid and vote for Obama.

@DelphiRetiree - You have my support. Too many employed got thrown under the bus with this administration.

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11GTX66(343 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Biden is as dumb as a box of rocks.


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12Woody(451 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

8000 tickets for 4800 seats. Waiting in lines. No room. Over crowding.

In other words like medical care under obamacare will be.

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13Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

To delphiretiree, you should have joined the union.
This is the truest statement on the whole page . How stupid are you

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14Friendo(8 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Although Bill Clinton and Joe Biden would run a more moderate White House than Obama, this is a darned uninspiring event. Reminds us how empty the national Democrats are - of both talent and good ideas. Kind of sad.

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15olddude(201 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Prolly well, maybe right Issac.. But it may say something about folks who own computers, smart enough to use them, care about real issues, make valid points based on facts,,,,,,,and Care...
Lot of Obama voters only know about the freebies..nothing else

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16SandiKing(1 comment)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Sitting here watching President Clinton and Vice-President Biden....they both seen to be slurring their speech..what's up with that?

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17buckeye123(2 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

The Pres and Hilary and White House staff watched drone videos of the Benghazi compound and CIA station assault for OVER 7 HOURS without sending help while Navy Seal Ty Woods and colleagues were slaughtered in Benghazi . This Ohioan simply cannot vote for Obama http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/...

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18pwhite1027(106 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Maybe Hussein Obama can organize a hurricane relief effort next week in NYC, he will have time on his hands. Gdog, wonder what he looks like?, my dog probably. Gdog can assist in helping him as he has no job to go to. Sounds like Gdog would.be awesome at helping. We dont want him to have to think as his brain capacity is that of his username. Soon all of his fellow union takers can file for their annual winter unemployment welfare and carry around their pitchforks at Bottom Dollar Grocery. Meanwhile, President Romney will fix our problems. God Bless Mitt and give him the strength to fix the horrible mess left by his socialist, foreign predecessor.

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19HSG(123 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Really? We'll be paying for decades for Obamacare? Since most of it doesn't kick in until 2014 we'll just have to wait and see- but somehow I don't see the hell scape everyone else is predicting.

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20IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Where is George Bush hiding?

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21AnotherAverageCitizen(1174 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Walt says. "America can see that Romney/Ryan are a viable alternative to get the economy growing again"

Do you mean the economy that died under George Bush 's watch? At that point 800,000 people losing their jobs a month and Obama stopped that is not enough for you. Or do you mean the stock market tanking under GWB? BVy the way the stock market has also recovered under Obama.

Walt. Please explain why the economy needed to be revovered. It happened before Obama took over, and I get told to not blame Bush.

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22AnotherAverageCitizen(1174 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Oh, I see, you are counting on this job creator.
On job creation, Obama beats Romney
Republican had one of the weakest employment records in the nation as Massachusetts governor
When Mitt Romney ran for Massachusetts governor in 2002, the private equity magnate said he was uniquely qualified to create jobs, particularly in the private sector, and to lure employers to the Bay State.
Instead, under his leadership the state was the fourth-weakest in the country for total job growth and the third-weakest for private-sector job growth — causing hundreds of thousands of his fellow residents to leave Massachusetts, seeking opportunities elsewhere, the data show.


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23VindyPost(436 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

President Obama Will Absolutely Win the State of Ohio. He's Definately got it Wrapped; Signed, Sealed, Delivered.

Do you see George Bush Anywhere???...Typically "the former" rallies along... BUT since Bush is Ultimately at fault for crisis, Romney and reflubs will not bring him into the arena.

Ohioians saw what Kasich TRIED to pull off and realize Romney is the Same Kind. Kasich is directed to stay out of the arena , also. and they're buddies. Reflubs Lost. Nobody can trust this Mitt Flip Flopper. Nooo-wayyy! Romney is just "shadowing" Obama where he sees approval and hears applauds.

Now, Obama Wins Ohio...There You Have It. Done deal. He's Our Re-Elected President! It's that simple.

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24newsmaker1(127 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Don't Vote like a Pagan:

Pope Benedict calls it secularism and neo-papanism. We are all in danger of paganization. It is an attitude that isolates God and that detaches God from our everyday life......short excerpts from a great homily--should be read by all voters

For a powerful sermon that churches of all demoninations should read and for all believers and non-believers

goggle: Assumption Catholic Church website- Jacksonville, Fl.

It's Father Fred's homily of Oct 28,2012--You will truly enjoy it

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25UticaShale(854 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

The Democrats let the 20% liberal bent lead for a change and realize their mistake. The majority of the Mahoning Valley are and have always been conservative democrats. Like the silent majority, they will vote for free enterprise and industrialization. The experiment with Marxism will end with a businessman leading the great USA.

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26uselesseater(229 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Democrats will get theirs one way or another.

Romney is leading in early voting totals supposedly 52% to 45%.

Listened to Channel 21's terrible feed of the hoopla speech. Uggh.

Do Clinton and Biden think education is going to fix everything? What is the unemployment rate of recent college graduates?

53% of Recent College Grads Are Jobless or Underemployed

Education debt for college level studies cumulatively is at or above level of all consumer debt in the US. Small percent of folks go to college, so that tells you how much debt each student is amassing and just how futile education has become.

It was just another GIVE ME convention for Democrats.

I swear I saw Bill Clinton asleep at one point when Biden was rambling.

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27uselesseater(229 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Breaking news: Democrats so desperate for money, they accepted donations from OSAMA BIN LADEN.


Obama accepts 'Osama bin Laden' donations
No block to foreign money – not even from dead terrorists

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28uselesseater(229 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Wrapped up my foot.

If Obama had it here, Rahm wouldn't be coming to visit this weekend.

Who else from the Chicago Crime Family is going to come to the region to lie to us?

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29Ryan_Sharpe(7 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Before voting, there is a lot to consider. New rules and regulations have killed nearly a million jobs in the country (http://eng.am/KP3Ruy). How many jobs could we have if we focused on enforcing the regulations already in place instead of just adding new job-killing ones?

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30David_at_Engage_America(3 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

The current administration touts job growth, but the jobs that are being created are low paying, part-time jobs. In the retail and wholesale sector, a million full-time jobs have been cut since 2006, while more than 500,000 part-time jobs (http://1.usa.gov/Riud6o) were added.

The leaders at the top need to change to get the jobs we need.

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31bsafeandproud(45 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Its ironic that the Obama/Biden/Clinton rally was held at the Covelli Center. The wretched financial state of the Center matches the bankrupt philosophy of the Democrat party.

A big government run enterprise, pork barrel spending and deep deficits is written all over this noose-of-a-center hanging around Youngstown taxpayers' neck. The Democrat platform of taxing a city's, state's and an entire nation's way back into prosperity is on display at 229 E. Front St. The black hole that has been created is the crown jewel of the Democrat party that has been in charge of the Mahoning Valley for the past 40 years.

In contrast, lifelong Democrat Mayor Sammarone needs to be honored and supported for his independent stance in bucking against his liberal peers in his proposition of selling the Center and cutting the losses of and running, especially with no hope in sight of the Center ever being financially self-sustaining. This failed experiment proves once again that free enterprise in the private sector is KING, and in 7 days on a national & state level we have a choice between 4 more years of destitute Covelli Center results out of Washington DC or redirecting our $$ away from the public feeding troughs and back into the pocketbooks of job-creating businesses and middle-class households.

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32uselesseater(229 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

@bsafeandproud, right on. Good summary of the bridge building between the minds that brought us Covelli Center all the way to the leaders in DC who signed NAFTA, GATT and preferential trade status with China (yeah that will Bill Clinton).

Then we have the Obamacare fiasco that Biden and Obama are so proud of.

It isn't government's job to forcibly extract wealth from the productive and redistribute it to the non productive, under paid or whoever else declares their open handed need.

Biggest issues in the land are:

2. National debt incurred by Obama and his cohorts.
3. China's collection of US debt, promissory notes and imports.

I don't hear anything out of Obama or Biden on these points. Well other than the 5 million job creation mythology. Bogus, lying, fools.

It's coming folks. Election day is going to be mighty interesting.

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33HSG(123 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Attention DELPHI retirees!!!!
Singer and Romney bought Delphi's debt, sacked the workers and refused to pay salaried workers' pensions EVEN with 1.4 Billion on hand.
Still wondering why Ann and Mitt don't want to show their tax returns?
Paul Ryan continues to promote the lie that the Delphi debacle was all Obama's fault. Don't believe it for a second!
Check out:
www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/30/115... Ryan-blames- Obama

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34ajselig(2 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

"The job he is supposed to be doing". I don't think so. The current administration wants to impose new regulations on fracking, but what happens is that Ohio gets less investment, less development and more regs. You basically wind up with the equivalent of DMV employees being responsible for whether or not Ohio’s economy grows. Don’t we have enough rules and regulations already?

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