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Romney tied with Obama

Published: Sun, October 28, 2012 @ 12:07 a.m.

By Darrel rowland

The Columbus Dispatch

Boosted by a surge among male voters who think he’s the best candidate to fix the economy, Republican Mitt Romney has come back to tie President Barack Obama in battleground Ohio.

They are deadlocked at 49 percent in the new Vindicator/ Ohio News Organization poll. Obama was ahead by 5 percentage points in the same poll published Sept. 16.

Obama’s lead in Northeast Ohio, the most Democratic portion of the state, took a big hit in the poll. Last month, Obama led Romney by 16 percentage points — 57 to 41 percent. But the new poll has the president up by 9 percentage points — 54 to 45 percent.

Also, Obama was ahead 51 to 46 percent in Northwest Ohio in last month’s poll. Romney leads 53 to 46 percent in that region in the latest poll.

How does that tie get broken in the next nine days?

“In the final days before the election, both campaigns will focus on turning out their bases, appealing to independents and attracting the few undecided voters that remain,” said Eric Rademacher, co-director of the University of Cincinnati’s Institute for Policy Research, which conducted the poll for Ohio’s eight largest newspapers, including The Vindicator.

“Absent any more twists and turns, a remarkable presidential campaign may end with the campaign that executes the best ‘ground game,’ narrowly delivering Ohio for the next president of the United States.”

The Buckeye State, the nation’s top presidential bellwether since 1900, is always important in a presidential election. But this year may be giving Ohio voters an attention-surplus disorder, with more than 70 visits by presidential candidates or their running mates, unprecedented ad spending, and reporters from around the world fanning the state. Last week, a New York Times statistical analysis called Ohio more important than the other 49 states combined.

In the new poll, Obama wins support for his foreign policy and for pushing the auto-loan package for GM and Chrysler.

Of those polled, 29 percent said they’re more likely to vote for Obama because of the bailout with 21 percent less likely to vote for the president. Obama does a little better in northeast Ohio with 32 percent saying they’re more likely to vote for him because of the rescue while he remains at 21 percent less likely to vote for him in the region.

The president also benefits somewhat from damage to Romney from his secretly recorded remarks about the “47 percent” of Americans he said are dependant on the government.

But the former Massachusetts governor scores with his performance in the debates. And on the crucial question of who would do the best job handling the economy, Romney prevails by 6 percentage points among all voters — and 18 percent among independents. “If this poll reflects final voting patterns among Democrats and Republicans, Ohio’s independent voters may hold the keys to both Ohio and the presidency,” Rademacher said. “The poll suggests independent preferences may move around depending on whether they are asked about the economy as a whole, the president’s handling of the auto industry or the 47 percent issue.

“Even so, Romney’s current advantage among independents in perceptions of which candidate would do a better job handling the economy gives him a leg up on the issue as the candidates make their final appeals to independent voters.”

Male voters have swung sharply toward Romney in the past month. In September, he was winning by 2 points among men on who could best improve economic conditions in Ohio. Now, he’s up by 19 on a slightly different question, who can better handle the economy. Overall, his lead with men has jumped from 1 to 12 points.

Romney wants more voters like poll participant Wesley Allen, 41, a welder at southern Ohio’s Ripley Metal Works, where he said employees have worked with a 25 percent pay cut for almost two years. Allen said he voted for Obama in 2008.

“Four years ago, I made a mistake. I fell for the whole ‘change’ thing,” he said. “I got on the ‘change’ train. But there wasn’t any change.”

This year, Allen already has made plans with four co-workers to meet in front of his Ripley home at 6 a.m. on Election Day and go vote together — all for Romney.

“I honestly believe that Romney will, with his business sense, be able to get us out of this. Four years with Obama and we haven’t succeeded in anything.”

Obama wants more voters like respondent Bruce Meyer, 46, a sales director from Akron who said he is backing the president despite the country’s economic struggles.

“I sort of look at it as he inherited a mess. I remember how bad things were roughly four years ago. I put a lot of the blame on why things were so bad on the previous eight years,” Meyer said.

“I think we’re on the right course, and to change course now would be a big mistake.”

He said Romney’s remarks about the “47 percent” solidified his thinking.

“I don’t think he has any understanding whatsoever of raising a family and getting up and getting to work on a day-to-day and month-to-month basis. I just don’t think he gets people like me.” After months of negativity in campaign ads, mailers, automated phone calls and stump speeches, perhaps it’s not surprising that 61 percent of Ohio voters say they are “scared” about who may prevail in this year’s presidential election. But it’s an equal-opportunity fright: 29 percent say they would be scared if Romney wins, and the exact same percentage expresses fear if Obama gets a second term.

And then there’s the 3 percent who say they are scared no matter who wins.

Kevin Taylor, 39, of Monroe near Cincinnati, an attorney and account manager for a sales team, said he is voting for Romney as “the lesser of two evils.”

Taylor said he had high hopes for Obama four years ago, but they have been dashed, so now it’s time for a fresh start. But he worries how much of Romney’s experience “translates to a more global setting that the president would require.”

Taylor’s mirror image is Rosemary Crum, 68, a retired pharmacist from Pickerington, southeast of Columbus.

“Obama’s the lesser of two evils,” she said. “I’m not necessarily a supporter of Obama, but there’s something about Romney I just can’t stand. There’s nothing about him that says ‘trust me.’ His mouth says that, but nothing else.”

Nearly 1 in 5 Ohio voters said they already had cast an early ballot, and Obama was ahead among this group by 27 points, 63 percent to 36 percent. More Democrats than Republicans say they will “definitely vote.”

However, 58 percent of Republicans describe themselves as “very enthusiastic” about the election, compared with 48 percent of Democrats.

The poll — using both telephone land lines and cell phones — conducted by the Institute for Policy Research at the University of Cincinnati between October 18 and Tuesday of 1,015 likely voters has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points. The response rate was 19.5 percent. The partisan composition of the randomly chosen respondents: 47 percent Democrat, 44 percent Republican, 10 percent independent. Rademacher said, “This is just inside the range of what we normally see from election to election, which varies between an advantage toward Democrats of plus-5 to an advantage toward Republicans of plus-5 among likely voters.”

Contributors: David Skolnick of The Vindicator, Jane Prendergast of The Cincinnati Enquirer and Randy Ludlow of The Columbus Dispatch


1greene(167 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

islandMike, do not read the next five words. Detroit Free Press endorses Romney.

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2Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

""And then there’s the 3 percent who say they are scared no matter who wins.""

I guess I'm in that 3%. There both useless.

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3IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

All eyes are going to be on Youngstown. Has a sitting President and a former President EVER been in Youngstown before. Obama and Clinton, this will be historic and the world media will be watching. Pretty cool for Youngstown!!

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4uselesseater(229 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Detroit Free Press
Grand Rapids Press
Chicago Tribune
Des Moines Register
Orlando Sentinel
Chicago Jewish Star
Las Vegas Review-Journal
Omaha World-Herald
The Reno Gazette-Journal
Sun Sentinel
Nashville Tennessean
Intelligencer/News-Register (Wheeling, WV)
New York Observer
Boston Herald

All those publications endorsed Romney. Surely are others like the major Columbus paper. Momentum is shifting against Obama.

Former Chrysler CEO Iacocca also has endorsed Romney.

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5chuck_carney(499 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Obama and Clinton are coming to Youngstown which is supposed to be one of the areas of strongest support. They should be in Hamilton county. It shows Obama is worried about losing his base.

Real Change will be here in 9 days

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6Knightcap(697 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

@Life2Short and @ Hulkster

If you want a good laugh this morning look for the video "Obamaphone Lady from Cleveland". LMFAO. Even the liberals will get a good laugh.

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7lee(544 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

All you union men I just read GM is spending 450 million , where? Not in Detroit not even Cleveland nope not even in the US it is going to Argentina. Boy that's good use of your tax dollars.

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8fomoco(3 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Willard ROBme keeps pushing the lie about Jeep. Just because he's stupid does he think we all are?

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976Ytown(1239 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Paragraph 2 says: They are deadlocked at 49 percent in the new Vindicator/ Ohio News Organization poll. Obama was ahead by 5 percentage points in the same poll published Sept. 16.

Where did they get their numbers? This is directly from the vindy poll:

Barack Obama 41%
Mitt Romney 57%
Other 0%
10449 total votes Vote in this poll.

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10JJ(28 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Media sources shouldn't be endorsing candidates they should be reporting the news, oh wait they are in the business of selling newspapers not objectively reporting information!

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11300(554 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

hahahahahah, 76Ytown thought they meant their unscientific online poll!

Now who says that the dullards aren't by and large Republicans?!

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12MLC75(528 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

It doesn't matter who wins,we will be screwed either way.They both are bad for the country.It is picking the worse of two evils.

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13commoncitizen(961 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

MLC75, you could be correct BUT we do know what Obama has (and hasn't done) in his four years. Like he said in 2008, if you can't run on your record--bad mouth the opponent!! Who will he blame IF he gets reelected??

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1476Ytown(1239 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago


Please direct us to the "other" Vindy poll referenced in this article so we can see the "deadlocked 49%" numbers.

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15rojode(1 comment)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

It is really surprising that anyone in Ohio would vote for Romney and Ryan lies. That is how you repay someone for saving your state. President Obama should have let the car industry go bankrupt as Romney wanted it to do. Maybe then you would vote for Obama instead of Romney. You must be drinking Kool-Aid. That is the only explanation as to whyj anyone would vote for a phony lying individual such as Romney or Ryan. To those who are voting for President Obama--God bless you! We will win!!!!

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16greene(167 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

rojode, you own GM stock purchased for $50.00 plus dollars. It is now in the $20.00's. You want to, "repay," with a vote. hmnn.

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17Brandis5(1 comment)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Corporate profits are at a 50 year high..while unemployment is also at a 50 year high.
Any correlation?
Rich are getting richer, and the poor getting poorer.
Look at what they are doing to the American worker in Freeport Illinois...Sensaa technologies.
Fact: Bain made 138.9 million in PROFIT for first 3 quarters 2012..up 10% from last year.
Fact: Mitt owns 8 million shares of Sensata Technologies...he will PERSONALLY PROFIT from the loss of 178 jobs in a town of 25,000
Fact: Sensata is closing plant and moving it to China, where the employees at Sensata make 99 cents an hour.
Fact: Employees BEGGED Romney to help save their jobs. They were banned from his speaking engagements. Romney didn't give them the respect of listening to their fears...not even for a minute.
Fact: Employees had to train the Chinese worker...(while they removed the AMERICAN flag for the week, before the Chinese worker got there, and put it back up when they left)...
Fact: Bain went to Freeport this week and told employees...SHUT UP...or we will close the plant today.
Fact: Bain promised one thing for severence pay, and has done another.
So, 178 people have to go home, fear the unknown,some newer employees will probably have to sign up for food stamps and welfare.
How does he point at Obama and say...we need to stop importing from China.

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18southsidedave(4780 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

I lke the comment "the lesser of two evils"....which one fits that billing?

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19gdog4766(1491 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

I don't understand how with the message this person brings he's still in the race. He's a proven liar, a cowardly draft dodger, who has raised five sons to be cowards, has deliberately ruined people's lives to make a,few bucks, is a,elitist snob who has never earned a thing in his life, hates women, has no grasp of the wants and needs of the common man. After,all that, if Obama were white this guy would be dead in the water. If elected the damage this guy will do to our society will be unprecedented.

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20EricL(2 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

To the gentleman above who used newspapers endorsement of Romney as an argument, here is a sample (not a complete list) of rather well-known papers that endorses Obama's second term. An Detroit Free Press is one of them, so you got facts wrong:

The New York Times
Los Angeles Times
The Los Angeles Times
Chicago Tribune
The Denver Post
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Star Tribune
Tampa Bay Times
The Plain Dealer
The Star-Ledge
The Seattle Times
Detroit Free Press
San Francisco Chronicle
Kansas City Star
The Sacramento Bee
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
The Miami Herald
The Buffalo News
Charlotte Observer
San Antonio Express-News
The Hartford Couran
The Salt Lake Tribune
Asbury Park Press
Arizona Daily Star
The Blade

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21EricL(2 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Sorry, after NY Times there was supposed to be Washington Post and not LA Times twice. And I can recommend The New Yorkers endorsement of Obama for a good read.

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22300(554 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

76, the poll is in the f-ing article! Seriously, you just read it if you bothered to read the article before posting! It's an Ohio News Organization poll.

That poll on vindy is absurd. You can vote as many times as you want, and yesterday at one point someone had voted hundreds of times for Romney, who was leading 95%-5%.

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23JoeFromHubbard(1038 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

"When the going gets tough, the tough get going."

Looks like people are coming to their senses and doing the right thing by supporting Romney even if they find that difficult to do.

This country needs to get back to what made it strong in the first place so it does not become a European socialist second place, as it surely will go if Obama continues.

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2476Ytown(1239 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago


Using profanity to express yourself makes you appear to be not well-educated, and that you don't know how to use other words to express emotion

Your response seems to infer that they used some other Vindicator/ Ohio News Organization poll.

Here are the latest poll results and the link to the poll on the vindy.com home page.

Barack Obama 40%
Mitt Romney 59%
Other 0%
11020 total votes

Again, if there is another Vindicator/ Ohio News Organization poll that I'm not aware of, please do post the link.

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25300(554 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

76, read the article. If you're still confused and don't know the difference between the 2 DIFFERENT polls you mentioned, then there's no hope for you. It also means that the print media need to rethink their practice of writing at a 4th grade level. It might need to be dropped down to a 2nd or 3rd.

I'm not going to google for the Ohio News Organization poll's website, do it yourself. Also, learn the difference between scientific and unscientific. I'm sorry if you find my posts too direct, but only an idiot would confuse Vindy's website poll for the one they named IN THE 2ND PARAGRAPH. You didn't even have to read the entire piece to know which poll they were using!

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26Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago



Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone


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27pwhite1027(106 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

And it never will happen Island Mike! Obama cancelled when he found out he couldn't even fill the Chevy Center in his stronghold Mahoning County. What a joke played on the herd of cows that stood in line last week. How you like the hope and change now!

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28IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

I guess a MAJOR HURRICANE had nothing to do with the LIE you just told.

Obama is WINNING by 4% in the latest CNN Poll of Polls and 5% in the latest Quinnipiac Poll, I've got a bit more faith in their polling than the Vindicator's.

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29AnotherAverageCitizen(1174 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Hman, those blue states including Mr Christie in NJ will hope Obama is there for them.


Mitt Romney In GOP Debate: Shut Down Federal Disaster Agency, Send Responsibility To The States

During a CNN debate at the height of the GOP primary, Mitt Romney was asked, in the context of the Joplin disaster and FEMA's cash crunch, whether the agency should be shuttered so that states can individually take over responsibility for disaster response.

"Absolutely," he said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"

"Including disaster relief, though?" debate moderator John King asked Romney.

"We cannot -- we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids," Romney replied. "It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all." The clip was flagged by HuffPost blogger Eric Zuesse.

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30Ryan_Sharpe(7 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

People NEED and WANT change. The current administration touts job growth, but the jobs that are being created are low paying, part-time jobs. In the retail and wholesale sector, a million full-time jobs have been cut since 2006, while more than 500,000 part-time jobs (http://1.usa.gov/Riud6o) were added. Are these really the jobs you want added in Ohio?

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