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Auto bailout could be key to Obama victory in Ohio



Published: Wed, October 24, 2012 @ 3:25 p.m.

LORDSTOWN, Ohio (AP) — President Barack Obama's decision to help America's automakers could end up being what helps drive him back into the White House.

Some 850,000 jobs in this critical battleground state are tied to autos, and Obama's campaign constantly reminds voters they'd be jobless if not for the decision to inject taxpayer dollars into General Motors and Chrysler.

The move, however, has not translated into automatic support for the president, even in areas that depend on the industry. Republican Mitt Romney also is pitching these voters hard with his message that Obama hasn't balanced Washington's checkbook the same way voters must.

One in eight jobs in Ohio can be linked to the auto industry — whether it's working on a factory floor or selling groceries to plant workers. The presidential race's outcome could boil down to whether voters interpret Obama's move as saving Detroit or bailing it out. But like other flashpoints in this rough campaign, there is little middle ground between the versions of events and what it means for voters' neighbors.

"I couldn't imagine what Lordstown would be," said Brian Axiotis, a 37-year-old Obama supporter who works in information technology and lives in nearby Newton Falls. "A lot of folks would lose their houses. Consider the mess that would have resulted. It'd be a ghost town all over the area."

Since its restructuring, the General Motors plant in this town of 4,000 people has added a third shift — and 1,200 new workers with it — to produce the popular compact Chevrolet Cruze. GM has pledged $220 million in updates to the factory and to keep the 4,500 workers, suggesting this town in the former steel-heavy Mahoning Valley has some stability ahead.


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1IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Mitt-Flopper wanted to let GM close permanently and now he wants to turn Medicare into a voucher program.
He already admitted that he doesn't care about 47% of the American people. That includes military families, veterans and all public employees.

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2nascar74(43 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

IslandMike. Glad to see you are at it again. Romney did not want to see GM close permanently. He wanted GM to file bankruptcy like other organizations do when they can't pay their bills and are in financial trouble. Romney also didn't say that he doesn't care about 47% of American people. Get your stories straight. Why don't you go hold picket sign outside of Bottom Dollar so you can put more people out of work like you buddy Obama.

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3IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

nascar,

You mean he wanted GM to file bankruptcy like Lehman Brothers. Mitt-Flopper DID say that he doesn't care bout 47% of the American people, but hey, that was a month ago, he now probably loves those 47% and now hates the other 53%. Ya know those repubs, they've ALWAYS got to be hating someone. Muslims, latinos, african-americans, women....
Mitt-Flopper wants to turn Medicare into a VOUCHER PROGRAM!! Get real.

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4nascar74(43 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

IslandMike. I am a Republican and proud of it, especially so here in this union blinded Democratic Mahoning Valley. I am also proud to say that I don't hate anyone. With your mentallity maybe you should be on an island - by yourself. By the way, how about the voucher programs that Obama has taken to the next level. And let's not forget the free phone program.

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5gdog4766(1468 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Romney wanted the auto industry to fail to bust the UAW. But dont worry by the day before the election Romney will be claiming it was he who personally saved GM. He has become a more dishonest liar then even Nixon. I didnt think that was possible.

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6James_S(268 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

thethinker- And as long as "Government Motors" is indebted to the Government (primarily to the international banksters who own our government), "Government Motors" is owned by the banksters and their US Goverment. And, UAW union workers are government workers.

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7olddude(197 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Island man really likes throwing the first stone...Regardless of ownership, paychecks in the valley are a good thing, I just cant understand folks thinkin it is all good when the federal govt. bails out a private companies pension plan to 100%.. This is why many are screaming...."wheres my bailout"..

The bailout society took a big turn, beginning with Katrina.. And part of the big plan to Redistribute the wealth..

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8IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

olddude,

Bush started the bailout. And the shipwreck of Katrina and The Invasion of Iraq are all on him. Now you have the Mitt-Flopper wanting to turn Medicare into a VOUCHER PROGRAM.

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9IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Mitt-Flopper is a liar and a hater. He hates women and minorities and his Medicare VOUCHER PROGRAM is going to stick it to seniors. He wants to cut taxes, increase military spending AND balance the deficit. Anyone who believes that doesn't have the brain they were born with.

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10MLC75(528 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

I can't wait until this mean spirted election is over. I'm sure the insults will continue regardless of who is elected.

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11olddude(197 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

And the current commander in chief is a truth-teller and lover.. He loves women and minorities and he is going to print up more money for Medicare.. Raise taxes, decrease millitary spending and NOT BALANCE THE BUDGET.. And anyone who has a brain, cannot use it to make more money than IslandMike...

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12uselesseater(229 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

To all the Obama supporters:

Do you think that your quality of life, that the financial state in your neighborhood and in the communities around you has been improved or decreased since Obama took office?

Do you see prosperity? Are your schools producing well educated literate graduates without bankrupting you and causing your neighbors to move to lower tax load localities?

Do you think that a country which continues to amass record debt load and is nearing the point where paying anything other than the interest owed to debtors is a good idea?

Are you glad to see more citizens stripped of their properties through foreclosures? Are you glad to see more gambling on Wall Street with your investment money and with your retirement dollars?

Is it good that manufacturing of basic necessities like clothing continues to be shuttered in the US and shipped abroad by the very big companies that manipulate and monopolize the limited buying choices in many areas (Walmart, Target, etc.)?

Do you believe we should life the world up to our standards and have a fair world or do you believe we should have our country and standard of living brought down to third world levels with child labor and slavery (i.e. China)?

Look Obama sold us all on Hope and Change. It is a refrain directly borrowed from the Communists. He said prior to election that he would unite people. He failed to and drove even larger and albeit false divisions between folks over non existent issues like skin color and socioeconomic status (middle class vs. working poor).

We can't afford four more years. Time is up for Obama or it's just may be game over for this country.

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13youngspartanrepublican(92 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

The UAW is towing a desperate, stupid, Democratic party line. All I see in the South (and in central Ohio, for that matter) are thriving foreign auto plants. OH WAIT! NO UNIONS!

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14IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Can anyone tell me why Mitt-Flopper who they claim to be soooo great as a former governor of Massachusetts is not even going to carry his state in the election? Seems to me if he was able to get elected governor and having done such a great job as they claim, well he should be projected to carry the state in the election. Go ahead Neo-Cons, I'll await your brilliant answers!!

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15youngspartanrepublican(92 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Hey islandmike, do you remember how Al Gore did in Tennessee in 2000? Since he's so brilliant? The fact Romney got elected as governor was enough of a miracle. That home state argument is meaningless.

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16oldskool(97 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Island?
Do you gots your obama phone?
Is you low poverty?
Do you live in youngstown? or Dreamtown?
Wake up people, it's obvious we need a change now more than we did 4 years ago.
wasn't it the idea of the Bush administration to assist the auto industry? I guess that is the one issue that wasn't Bushs' FAULT, so lets run on that now. the guys a liar and a fraud, we gave him a chance, he friggin blew it. I am typically a democratic subscriber but I am first off a citizen and a realist.

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17IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

I'm still awaiting an answer to the question...........
Can anyone tell me why Mitt-Flopper who they claim to be soooo great as a former governor of Massachusetts is not even going to carry his state in the election?
C'mon Neo-Cons, not everyone all at once. LOL!

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18oldskool(97 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

island
blind and backwards is no way to go thru life son,
young par rep made the argument

LOLRL dork- all you hafta do is READ instead of listen to the happy jobless and not looking population, with any luck at all OBAMA will need his own heath care plan first of the year.

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19oldskool(97 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

But as it stands, I guess the answer to your question is...
THEY ARE AS DUMB AS YOU!!!!

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20IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

@oldschool,

I see you can't answer my question, nor can you spell at the first grade level.

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21walter_sobchak(1893 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

The key to winning Ohio this year is voter turn-out. Barack Hussein Obama, our first black muslim president, needs to have the same people that turned out for him in 2008 to win this year. His problem is that the young people are not that enthused this year because they see dim job prospects. I have seen many people say that they voted for the Chosen One in 2008 but they either will not vote this time or will vote for Romney. But, I can't recall seeing anyone say that they voted for McCain in 2008 but will vote for the Benghazi Liar this year. Thus, Cincinnati and Columbus will decide the state of Ohio this year.

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22IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

I'm raising my hand.

•He's killed Bin Laden
•Eliminated several other Al-Qaeda leaders
•Ended the War in Iraq
•Begun the drawdown of forces from Afghanistan
•End-run Republican obstructionism by recess-appointing Richard Cordray to run the Consumer Financial Protection Board.
•Advanced women's rights in the work place
•Ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) in our military
•Stopped defending DOMA in court.
•Passed the Hate Crimes bill.
•Appointed two pro-choice women to the Supreme Court.
•Expanded access to medical care and provided subsidies for people who can't afford it.
•Expanded the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP)
•Fixed the preexisting conditions travesty [and rescissions] in health insurance.
•Invested in clean energy, putting us on the road to energy independence by 2020.
•Overhauled the credit card industry, making it much more consumer-friendly.
•Passed the Dodd-Frank bill re-regulating the financial sector.
•He created a Elizabeth Warren's dream agency: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
•He got help for people whose health was injured during the clean-up after the 9/11 attacks.

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23DwightK(1251 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Walter, come on. What's up with this Muslim stuff you're spouting? You're too good of a debater on these boards to resort to that nonsense. We have a certain standard around here.

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24cambridge(2996 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

The Auto Loans will have nothing to do with Obama winning. He will win by a landslide because he is by far the better choice. Anyone voting for romney/munster making less than $250,000 a year is voting against their own best interest and there just aren't enough stupid people for that to happen.

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25walter_sobchak(1893 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Dwight,
If one gets their news for the MSM, they most definitely heard that Madonna is proud of the fact that we now "have the first black muslim in the White House". Who wants to dispute Madonna? Now, seriously, I do know that the President declares himself a Christian. But, as a Christian, he should confess his lies to the American people about Benghazi and "Fast and Furious". Good AMericans lost their lives in both cases.

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26oldskool(97 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

island
Whatever, your ignorance shows in every post you've made.
If the muslim does win, you will see me next to you at the welfare office to gets mise Obama Phone and free healthcares! it's not a miss spelling di@# I figure I'l write it in terms you cans udeustand.
Hope he does win so the good people of youngstown can hear see you brag about how good you have it.

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27IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

oldschool,

Sorry, but I've never been on public assistance and unlike what you've admitted in your post, I don't even know where the office is. Sounds like it's on your weekly route.
As for Obama being a Muslim, you speak of being a Muslim as if it were a crime and secondly, John McCain even said Obama is a Christian.
As for how good I have it, yes, I do have things pretty good and I'm grateful for the gifts in my life. Now you can keep up the racists rants all you want, but at the end of the day, Obama is a Harvard graduate and you can't spell at the first grade level. So enjoy your formal Tea Party Dinner tonight and remember to dress appropriately. Only the best for you Tea Party folk. Yep, black tie and white sheet! After dinner you can enjoy the Tee partie spellin be. LOL.

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28IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

hunter,

News Flash for you. Obama is The Commander-in-Chief, that means that he is reponsible for Bin Laden's death and for the deaths of all other al-Qaeda leaders killed by our militarty. You righties credit Reagan for knocking down the Berlin wall, but I never saw him with a hammer.
Obama is a Harvard Graduate and I'll trust his judgement over yours. Keep on hating hunter, it must be sad to be you!!

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29Westsider(222 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

If only all of the comments on this thread to fire the President would turn into actual votes for Mitt Romney - this area might stand a chance. The fact that the President and Bill Clinton are coming to Youngstown indicates he is worried. Bill Clinton promised us a DFAS Center - we didn't get it - Mitt Romney comes from a car family - there is no way he wanted to close GM permanently - but again - let's not let the facts stand in the way of voting Democrat....

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30oldskool(97 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

I will make it my weekly routine if OBAMA is re-elected.
I don't hafta know how to spell to make an unbiased decision.
I don't hafta agree with you.
I am far from being a racist mike, But I do infact salute to my flag. I suppose I should restate that the pretender in chief is a christian this week.
I am very well off too Mike and thankful for my gifts in life as well, I am just sick of all of the false HOPE we supported for the the last 3.5 years and see nothing more than false HOPE for this Nation. Agree to disagree.
Alot of facts are fiction and not all good will come either way.

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31IslandMike(752 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

Unemployment would be TRIPLE what it is now had GM went under and that is just what Mitt-flopper would have done. It would have gone the way of Lehman Brothers. Bin Laden would still be alive and troops would still be in Iraq.

MITT FLOPPER IS A CLOWN.

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32WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

"In the most precipitous decline it has seen in more than a year, President Barack Obama’s job approval rating has dropped 7 points in three days, according to Gallup."

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33WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

"Just one day after President Obama went on television saying that politics had nothing to do with the now bankrupt Abound Solar receiving a taxpayer-backed loan guarantee from the Energy Department, emails have surfaced that contradict these claims and suggest White House involvement in the company receiving the loan."

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/27/ema...

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34WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

"The woman named “Democrat of The Year” this year by the Jefferson County Democratic Party has been convicted of felony theft by a Jefferson County jury for stealing from a developmentally disabled 71-year-old woman."

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/10/26...

Democrats. Hmmm.

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35WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

"President Obama’s green jobs training program, which was part of his stimulus, has failed on most key jobs measures, according to a new internal audit that found it was training workers who already had jobs that didn’t need green energy skills, and was failing to place new enrollees in jobs once they finished the training.

The Labor Department’s inspector general also said grantees who received the green jobs-training money did a poor job of reporting their results.

Only 38 percent of those who have completed training got jobs based on it, and only 16 percent kept jobs for at least six months — the key measure of success for the program. …

Of those workers who already had energy-sector jobs, the auditors said they were retrained, even though they didn’t need it."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2...

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36WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

@IslandMike

President O-Bout-To-Lose stinks. Sure, he did some things right but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Take a gander at this small list of other things he did:

-Gasoline prices up 250%
-Al Qaeda is ALIVE
-Grocery prices up 15%
-47 million on FOOD STAMPS
-MILLIONS left the labor force
-16.2 trillion dollars in DEBT
-Income down 8.2%
-43 months of 8%+ unemployment
-Benghazi cover up.
-Ambassador DEAD
-Billions wasted on fraudulent "green" projects
-Fast n Furious cover up

King O-Blame-Everyone-Else has to GO!

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37WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

I love the Democrat party don't you Island? Canbridge? Who is more likely to have sheets on their heads again?

The Democrat Party

-Fought for slavery
-Began the Civil War
-Founded the Ku Klux Klan
-Created Jim Crow
-Levied poll taxes
-Fought against Civil Rights
-Insured Japanese internment

The Democrats have been working to keep minorities on the plantation and in chains for 250 years!!

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3876Ytown(1232 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

GM is again headed for bankruptcy

http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswood...

Ohioans Are No Fools: Obama Did NOT Save Your Automotive Jobs

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroder...

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39oldskool(97 comments)posted 1 year, 10 months ago

GM would have survived bankrupcy, wake up Mike.
Romney up by 2 points over Obama!!!!!!!
keep talking

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