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Soup kitchen visit by Ryan stirs anger

Published: Tue, October 16, 2012 @ 12:00 a.m.


Paul Ryan, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, spoke to a group of men outside the St. Vincent de Paul Society’s Dining Hall in Youngstown on Saturday. The head of the society said Ryan used the facility for a “publicity stunt.”

  St. Vincent de Paul Press Conference

Brian J. Antal, president of the local St. Vincent de Paul Society, discusses the society's position on political visits.

Brian J. Antal, president of the local St. Vincent de Paul Society, discusses the society's position on political visits.

By David Skolnick



The president of Mahoning County’s St. Vincent de Paul Society is “shocked” and “angry” that Republican vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan used the soup kitchen for a “publicity stunt.”

Brian J. Antal, who runs the society, said the campaign “ramrodded themselves in there” without getting proper permission for the visit Saturday that followed Ryan’s town-hall meeting at Youngstown State University.

“They said they got permission from the right people, but that would have been me, and I never would have given them permission,” Antal said Monday.

Juanita Sherba, St. Vincent’s Saturday coordinator for the dining hall, said she gave the Ryan campaign approval that day for the visit by the candidate and his family.

Sherba say she now realizes it wasn’t her call to make.

The event “was a photo op,” she said. “It was the phoniest piece of baloney I’ve ever been associated with. In hindsight, I would have never let him in the door.”

When an advance person from the Mitt Romney/Ryan campaign asked about the visit, Sherba said it took her by surprise.

“I didn’t know it was my place to say ‘no,’” she said. “I made a mistake.”

The event was completely staged by the campaign, she said.

“They couldn’t have cared less,” Sherba said. “The advance man said Paul Ryan wanted to come and talk to our clientele, but he didn’t.”

When asked for a comment, Christopher Maloney, spokesman for the Romney/Ryan campaign, said: “Our campaign and Congressman Ryan were pleased to bring attention to the meaningful charitable contributions St. Vincent de Paul Society makes to people in need.”

One Romney/Ryan campaign aide, who declined to be identified for this story, said Sherba told a staffer that it would be fine for Ryan to come to the center, and that she was pleased by the request.

Also, the aide said Sherba expressed gratitude for the visit.

But Sherba tells a different story.

She said she was told Ryan would talk with the society’s clientele, but he arrived so late that breakfast was over for quite some time.

Volunteers started to clean up, she said, when a Ryan campaign staff member asked them to leave some pots and pans unwashed so the VP nominee and his family could do something when he arrived.

“We just wanted to come by and say, ‘Thanks,’” Ryan said to a few volunteers who stayed behind Saturday. “This is what makes society go.”

Despite some media reports, Sherba said Ryan and his family washed a few dirty pots and pans, but it wasn’t necessary.

“It was all about him coming in and doing dishes for publicity,” Sherba said. “We had to save dishes. We would have gone home by the time he arrived. We didn’t need him to do the dishes. It was getting late, and I said that we were closing in five minutes. I waited longer than that, and he finally arrived.”

Antal said he’s received several phone calls and emails from donors who are “not pleased” that Ryan used the soup kitchen as a photo op.

“I’d have the same problem if [Vice President] Joe Biden or [President] Barack Obama came down there,” Antal said of the Democratic ticket.

But he did specifically criticize Ryan for wanting to eliminate the small amount of federal money the society gets for the dining hall.

“That is a little two-faced to say the least,” he said. “I cannot have the appearance that we are endorsing the Republicans by letting them use our facility for photo ops and publicity stunts.”

The society received $12,000 in federal money this year and raised about $175,000 to $200,000 in private donations for the dining hall, Antal said.

The nearby food pantry received $3,200 in federal aid this year and $75,000 in private donations, he said.

“If we can’t get private donations, we’re sunk,” Antal said. “It’s not a Democrat or Republican issue. It’s a faith-based organization, and we’re not here to get someone elected.”

Antal said he doesn’t blame volunteers for this.

The society’s bylaws prohibit the endorsement of candidates and political parties, Antal said.

Now it also will include a policy prohibiting candidates from visiting its facilities, he said.

The dining hall is next door to The Vindicator’s production facility and newsroom on Front Street in downtown Youngstown.

St. Vincent serves 98,000 meals to the poor annually with 200 to 250 people served lunch every weekday and about 150 served breakfast on Saturdays, Antal said. The hall is closed Sundays.

Also, those provided lunch are given bags with a sandwich or food wrap to eat at night, he said.

Those wanting to donate to the society can do so at P.O. Box 224, Youngstown, OH 44501 or at any First Place Bank.


1IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I love the specifics of Mitt & Paul's Economic Plan. They have NONE!

Failure to plan is planning for FAILURE.

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2nojimbo(286 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Ryan had nerve just setting foot inside the door. St. Vincent dePaul has position papers saying "There is no substitute for an involved, effective, and committed government ... including fully funding programs that tackle homelessness." They also call for universal health care, regardless of ability to pay. The St. Vincent dePaul Society and the people it serves would be devastated by Ryan and his Ayn Rand budget. That's the definition of a sociopath --- work to harm someone while smiling and pretending to be their friend.

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3BigStar303(28 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

The height of opportunistic sleaze.

I particularly loved campaign spokesman Christopher Baloney's vapid comment.

These people aren't even on the planet. How could any thinking, feeling person want to vote for these bozos?

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4Ytownnative(1121 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

But they are makingit a political issue. I call BS on the statement he wouldn't of let oblamer and biden in there. I will never give them another penny.

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5bobhogue(102 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Because of this ridiculous photo-op visit, I will do two things today:

1. Donate to the St. Vincent de Paul Society.

2. Donate to the Obama/Biden campaign.

Way to go, Ryan.

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6Aware(255 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

YTN: Wouldn't "of" ? Learn to speak! Wouldn't HAVE. Or do Republicans lack basic English? Romney and Ryan are fakes. You probably don't even have a penny - no one would hire you! Go back to school.

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7michael1757(490 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Where it said," The campaign,& congressman ryan,I didn't somehow think it was Tim Ryan. hahaha What a joke that would've been. Everybody talkin' to Tim Ryan,because he's got something to say,& no photo op for little cryin',lyin' ryan.

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8TylerDurden(367 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

How dare he get permission to enter and wash some dishes.

Any politician in his shoes would have done the same thing.Of course he wants photo ops in the soup kitchen. You think any of these politicans want to spend a weekend in Youngstown? It's all about votes.

This lady is obviously covering her rear now that she screwed up.

Scapegoat from the real issue here.

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9BigStar303(28 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

The "real issue" here is hypocrisy. As if a visit to a soup kitchen will somehow obscure the very real effects of the policies Ryan espouses.

I would respect him a lot more if he would just be up-front like Romney and come right out and say he doesn't give a damn about anyone but his rich cronies.

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10Ypboy(64 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

If the St. Vincent de Paul Society isn't political then why did they advertise in favor of Obamacare?

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11rumppy(119 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Ypboy, u and everyone has a right to vote. If they feel that its in their best interest to support their canidate and or their views than, thats their prorogative. The last time I looked this is America. Even though we have Romney who lies to your face, flip flops, cares only for the rich. In Ytown thats not a good fit. Even if you live in Poland, Boardman, Austintown, Canfield, the suburbs, you are not a 1 percenter, MANY of you are just perpetrating a fraud. Wantabees

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12mgourley(32 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

"The society received $12,000 in federal money this year and raised about $175,000 to $200,000 in private donations for the dining hall, Antal said."

"The nearby food pantry received $3,200 in federal aid this year and $75,000 in private donations, he said."

“If we can’t get private donations, we’re sunk,” Antal said. “It’s not a Democrat or Republican issue. It’s a faith-based organization, and we’re not here to get someone elected.”

Sounds to me like the private donations are doing just fine. If that 12k in taxpayer funds goes to cover those 98k meals served, that's about 12 cents per meal. That 200k in private funding covers a little over two dollars per meal.

What do you say everyone in Youngstown and the surrounding communities give one dollar, just one dollar to St. Vincent dePaul and then they won't need those taxpayer funds and will have a huge food pantry.

Many of you are missing the whole point here. Ryan, and many conservatives, have repeatedly said that if we are serious about reducing government spending, then communities have to be serious about making up the shortfall.

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13seinfried(19 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I wonder what percentage of the populations hangs out down there? Should of visited the red part of the state and stayed with his base.

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14taxme(361 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

This UNDECIDED has just decided.
Republicans are sleeeeeeezzzzeeebags!

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15harleydog(243 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

If Obama or Biden walked in the door this would be a non-issue. Since St. Vincent de Paul is making a issue out of it, they will never get a dime from me again.

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16Ytownnative(1121 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Romney or Ryan could save a thousand children from a burning schoolhouse and people in this valley would still have bad things to day about them. For a president that forced GM into backruptcy so the government could own it noone seems to see the obvious. Government controlled healthcare, banks, etc.....

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17CantStandYa(222 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Take a drive down Nelbert Lane in Boardman and tell me how many Obama signs are in the yard at 744.

When you are in the business of assisting others via charitable donations, You shouldnt muck the waters with your political preferences. Antal should know that.

If anyone should be reprimanded by Antal here, it should be Juanita Sherba for letting them in. Im sure the only reason she is talking to the press now is because of the pressure from Antal.

I used to donate to the organization, and will no longer do so.

A visit by any member of the media, regardless who they are there to cover, brings attention to the organization and could have very positive effects for the future amount of charitable donations. Antal should have used it for the good of the organization, not the gain of the candidate he supports. Instead, this dumbass decides to try to create a negative political spin in hopes that the candidate he supports will benefit.

Enjoy the lack of donations "Mr. President"

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18Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

they will never get a dime from me again.
I will never give them another penny.
These are comments from above
BS, these kind of people never gave anyway .
And you give to those who NEED ,not to St. Vincent DE Paul. If you think feeding the poor is wrong , then I'm sure you will be voting for the GOP/TEA

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19chevinsea(32 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

It never surprises me how BIASED the Vindicator is! Come on people! Its a charity! This allows the community awareness about ST Vincent de Paul Society. Its OBVIOUS Sherba doesn't support THIS candidate and his partner. ON top of THAT, the Vindicator thinks this is FRONT PAGE worthy!! I'm canceling my subscription NOW!!!

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20isaac45(412 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

yep, sounds like the type of guy who cut his marathon time in half...is it down to an hour now?...and with all the px90 does anyone want to take a guess on how much he benches...i'm saying minimum 400

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21greene(167 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

When I fill my tank with $65.00 of gas today, this is all I will be able to think about...

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22Max(98 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

They're POLITICIANS, people! That's what they do ... photo ops aplenty! Do you really think the Obama campaign wouldn't have done the same thing?! And considering Antal is a huge Obama supporter, he's taking this opportunity to bash on the Republicans.

I agree it was a silly thing for the Ryan campaign to do. But it was a photo op just like ANY campaign, including the Democrats, would have taken advantage of. The only difference is that this area is so pro-Democrat, and they're grabbing the opportunity to demean the opposition.

Ridiculous that such an issue is being made over this. Of course, it's a much more important story than the fact that our government dropped ball in Libya, allowing 4 Americans to be killed, and is now LYING to us about it. Not a problem.

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23Herb(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Wow, How could you bad mouth a practicing Catholic.who embraces the teachings of the church. Unlike the other side who pushes abortion, Government interference in the church.You can be sure i will continue to help Trumbull county ST Vincent but until you get rid of self centered activist like Mr Antal I will not give time or money to Mahoning. County.

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24pjst81(7 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Well to all of you that are now saying that you will not give another penny to them....shame on you. Truly you are upset because we obviously see who you are supporting this election. Clearly you can see that photo of mr. Ryan doing the dishes is phony with his wife standing there with a grin on her face doing nothing. So fake. It's pathetic. You can see by the photos that everything in the article is true. Pictures don't lie. It's ashame and embarrassing.

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25valleyred(1103 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Ryan was in a 'damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.'

He was late so if he doesn't show up, they will make it political.

If he doesn't show up, they will still make it political because he was late and was not able to do everything you intended.

Wonder if the media will uncover the fact Juanita Sherba in this article is an Obama supporter? Obviously she wants to make the story political to help President Obama win. Here is my proof: Juanita Sherba is an Obama supporter... Wonder if that has anything to do with the fact they are making this political: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5U95o8CE...

Quoted in an AP Article:

Juanita Sherba of Canfield, Ohio, has been attending the demonstrations for 12 years..........

"We believe that Obama's words are true," she said. "He seems to be a man of conscience and I think he's going to look into the way our government does business and truly make it a democracy again."

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26peggygurney(408 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Well I'm not a member of the Diocese, So I feel no shame in saying What in the world did they think Ryan was using it for?? Do you actually believe he volunteers at soup kitchens on a regular basis?

I'm betting it's the first time he's ever even been in a soup kitchen... unless of course he volunteered in one the last time he ran for something.

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27walter_sobchak(2716 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

These kind of photo-op's are done by all politicians. Their advance people set them up and the candidates show up with their press entourage in tow. Spend 15 minutes and leave for the next stop. Wash, rinse, repeat. Every candidate does it but the buck stops with them for responsibility.

That is unless you allege you never get the buck and your Secy of State takes the hit for you!

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28tadigiacomo(15 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

>> If Obama or Biden walked in the door this would be a non-issue. Since St. Vincent de Paul is making a issue out of it, they will never get a dime from me again. <<

This. I call BS on them, because if Biden would have shown up you would have heard how honored they were, how glad they were that he took the time to stop by, what a great Catholic he is, etc. After living away from the area for 20 years one can really see just how biased the area is as a whole. It's too bad because there are so many good people in the area, but essentially only one way of thinking.

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29SunnySkies(20 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

This article is just ridiculous. Where is Bishop Murray? The fact that Paul Ryan even came to the St. Vincent de Paul kitchen is a credit to his compassion and Catholicism. Where are the Catholics welcoming him? No matter where a Presidential candidate goes, it will be a media event. Instead of criticising the guy, how about making a donation today to feed the hungry in the community instead of depending on federal/tax dollars?

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30sue(179 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Ironic that Brian Antal, is angry that a Paul Ryan, a Catholic candidate would go to St. Vicent's. Perhaps he would have liked PRO ABORTION OBAMA and Biden to go there. Unbelievable. I would suggest those who donate to the needy, send their money to Salvation Army instead.

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31peacelover(839 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I'll give you that this is something lots of other politicians do. But to come to the soup kitchen and wash a few dishes that the volunteers had to save for him to wash, and get his picture taken doing so, while at the same time saying that this soup kitchen and food pantry should not receive any federal funding, smacks of hypocrisy to the highest degree, especially by a guy who claims to be such a staunch Catholic. I say shame on him and the whole GOP.

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32dmacker(536 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Wake up America!!! If you think these "photo ops" are limited to the Republicans you are quite naive.
When John Kerry visited this area while campaigning for President, in an effort to gain the support of hunters, he staged a phony "goose hunt" with some local professionals. The geese were already shot and passed out to Kerry and the other hunters all of whom had no ammunition for the shotguns they were carrying. A prominent local attorney was one of the hunters and can attest to this information. Kerry got off of the campaign bus and was handed an unloaded shotgun and a dead goose. Kerry posed for the photos and got back on the bus and left. The local news carried the story prominently. We have now politicians who consider themselves as royalty.

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33saddad(655 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Somebody should have clued him in: Youngtown Ohio is the toughest place you'll ever play.

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34Tjay(8 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

LOL! There is no greater demonstration of people's ability to be taken in by show and avoid substance than this story.

"A credit to his compassion and Catholicism" – LOL! Instead of the show of Ryan donning an apron for a few minutes and washing clean dishes, how about we look at the POLICIES he espouses. If St. Vincent de Paul is busy feeding the poor now, what will they be if the Romney-Ryan ticket prevails?

If any of you genuinely believes that the number of clients they serve will lessen, I'd love to have a hit of what you're smokin'.

But what the hell...they're all members of the 47 percent, right? As Romney has said (and remember, this is a direct quote), it's "not his job" to worry himself over them.

You guys can triumphantly shout "Aha!" because you've found out the woman in this story is an Obama supporter. Go right ahead. I'm sure it helps drown out the noise of the real substance here, which is the cynicism and breathtaking hypocrisy behind Ryan's visit.

But then again, I guess you all feel better seeing the world through all that wool.

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35republicanRick(1736 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Sounds like Mr Antal is an incompetent manager. He should be fired/demoted because he has harmed the organization.

I can and will direct my donations to those that are concerned with poor people, not an organization like this one that pushes a political viewpoint.

Shame on Mr Antal and Ms Sherba.

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36YSUPenguins(16 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I almost always put a couple of dollars in the collection plate for St Vincent dePaul Society after church, but I'll find another charity to donate to until Antal & Sherba are gone. Antal says they " ramrodded themselves in there". Sounds like they ramrodded themselves in there after getting permission from Sherba. She probably didn't know Ryan was a Republican until later.

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37candystriper(575 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

they need every dime they can get as donations to charities are way down...gas and food prices are so high...my local salvation army is $500k in debt...they just let go of a dozen employees.

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38jojuggie(1723 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

43 a.m.

A123, which received a $249.1 million federal grant in 2009 to build a U.S. factory, needed a financial lifeline after struggling with costs from a recall of batteries supplied to Fisker, the plug-in hybrid luxury carmaker. A123 announced in August that it was working on a deal with Wanxiang Group Corp., China’s largest auto-parts maker, for financing in exchange for a majority ownership stake.

Wanxiang plans to invest as much as $465 million in A123, giving the Hangzhou, China-based company a stake of as much as 80 percent, A123 said in an Aug. 16 statement. In yesterday’s filing, A123 said it was considering strategic alternatives including “one or more potential transactions” to address its liquidity problems. There is “no assurance” that A123 will be able to find a way to continue to operate its business as a going concern, the company said.

Obama’s Call
President Barack Obama called A123 Chief Executive Officer David Vieau and then-Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm during a September 2010 event celebrating the opening of the plant in Livonia, Michigan, that the company received the U.S. grant to help build.

“This is about the birth of an entire new industry in America -- an industry that’s going to be central to the next generation of cars,” Obama said in the phone call, according to a transcript provided by the White House. “When folks lift up their hoods on the cars of the future, I want them to see engines and batteries that are stamped: Made in America.”

Electric-vehicle sales since 2011 totaled fewer than 50,000 through September, just 5 percent of Obama’s target to have 1 million such vehicles on U.S. roads by 2015.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said last month that Obama has picked “losers” for alternative-energy loans and grants. His running mate, Paul Ryan, has called for all green-energy subsidies to be eliminated.

A123 has posted at least 14 straight quarterly losses. Its shares have fallen 85 percent this year to 24 cents at yesterday’s close in New York and traded at 16 cents at 8:29 a.m. before the start of regular trading.

The case is In re A123 Systems Inc., 12-49658, U.S. Bankruptcy

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39Rooster(80 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Well, this kind of mess is what defines this valley. Some tone-deaf yayhoo wants to be real clear we need to be written off as so deep in the Democrats camp we aren't even worth campaigning over or worth any election promises. So whoever's running, doesn't need to bother working for any votes here. Especially the Democrats. This St. Vincent's donkey just let Obama/Biden know they don't need to worry about this area at all.

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40Rooster(80 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Well, this kind of mess is what defines this valley. Some tone-deaf yayhoo makes it real clear we need to be written off as so deep in the Democrats camp we aren't even worth campaigning over or worth any election promises. So whoever's running, doesn't need to bother working for any votes here. Especially the Democrats. This St. Vincent's donkey just let Obama/Biden know they don't need to worry about this area at all and let the Repubs know it just ain't worth coming here.

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41DOLE2(595 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

When Barry's wife comes through here with her bare arms flapping on her way to vacation in Spain thats ok because she's a Dem.....Never thought a charity would be biased,I am sure they would bend over backwards for a liberal socialist dem......

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42Tjay(8 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

"I credit the guy for stopping by just to see what is going on in Y-town."

And there you are. If Ryan truly were interested in nothing more that "seeing what is going on," he could have managed to find out without putting the apron on, right?

You guys have a truly remarkable ability to see only what you want to see. Antal says the policy applies equally to any politician. You say he's lying. The Romney/Ryan aide says Sherba was pleased about the visit and expressed gratitude, contradicting her statements. But you believe the aide because...gasp!...Sherba is an Obama supporter.

How's that wool visor working out for all of you?

This is, in the end, a tempest in a teapot. The real story is the policies of the individuals and parties in question. You'd all much rather ignore that and focus on this and get your back up and say you'll never donate money to St. Vincent de Paul again (and I agree it's likely you never did before).

People just crack me up.

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43Rooster(80 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

This news rag and that charity donkey is telling both campaigns that for a measly $12,000 worth of federal money that neither the democrats or the repubs have to put this valley on their campaign stops. Nope, we're solid Obama, don't need any campaign promises there - and no Repubs need bothering to call here at all. Maybe those charity types don't want to be put out of business, is all I can figure. If we had some job promises here from whoever wins this thing, those charities might not be such a big deal

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44Aware(255 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Pj has the same take I have on this - not only is his wife just standing there but he is doing this in front of his kids!!!!! We all understand how photo ops work - Ryan used extremely poor judgement here. It tells much about a person's values when he sets an example like this for his own children. He can claim he is a good Catholic over and over - that means nothing to most voters, myself included. I am confident Mr. Biden would not stoop to this level. No one should attack any of the players here EXCEPT Paul Ryan. He is a liar and this stunt speaks to his real character - lack of....he is undeserving of my vote.

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45mygirls(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

It is election time..St. Vincent de Paul Society didn't think that this would get some publicity no matter who came there to visit. Maybe that is really what the soup kitchen wanted was the publicity..if not they didn't have to let him in..

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46JeffNEOhio(2 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

It is a shame that Brian Antal, a Catholic (hard to believe) can claim that his organization is not supporting a candidate. Come on, Brian, you don't think that your attacking Ryan isn't showing your support of the abortion loving Obama?

I donated monthly via my church to the St. Vincent DePaul Society. I am sorry that I can no longer do that.

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47Dagwood(504 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

The United States of America is not a "Soup Kitchen", Obama and his parasite followers need to stop acting like it is.

The Quote of the Decade:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, "the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better." ~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

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48redeye1(5663 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Well, once again the true feeling of this valley chosen few have picked on a man that they really don't know a thing about. How many of you D party goons really know Paul Ryan, my bet none. Also, my father always told me those that brat the most about how good they are , are usually the worst. Paul Ryan and his family have worked in food kitchens in Wisconsin. But as i can see by these posts the people of this valley would rather have a MUSLIM lead them then a good catholic. Well that is your choice, but if I were you I would start studying about ALLAH and really fast. So far as St Vincent DePaul , since you are so bias angainst another catholic I too will not be donating again . So I hope the great Antal figures out how to pay for things when the money stops coming in.

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49Rooster(80 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

All I'm saying is can't we figure out how to play just a little hard to get? Folks, we need to start thinking strategic here. Lining up behind this little charity donkey selling his turds cheap to the Obama campaign and this newspaper hack helping him do it, is the wrong kind of thinking. These two yahoos will get pat on the head from whatever assistant to the assistant on the Obama campaign that might have this valley on his radar, but we're letting people like this sell this Valley's votes awful cheap. This aint' a Democrat/Republican game. THis is a Valley vs. Federal dollars game. Whoever gets in there hands out the dollars. How do you think those places in California got all those Obama billions for alternative energy experimentations? Could have been here, is all I'm saying. OHio is a big deal in this race. You're letting this Valley get ignored. These politicians want votes, that's why they come here, you numbskulls. What you folks dont' seem to get is - what do we want? Do we want some little turds getting a pat on their heads or do we want some jobs here? Lord, it's what I used to try to get through a co-worker's head - play a little hard to get sometimes. We got to make these outfits worry about us some. This sorry newspaper and this little charity prima donna, has done us some damage.

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50topsailwatch(80 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I can't believe what I'm reading. Is this Anthal guy a real loser under his phony facade. And who in Youngstown thinks that a Republican can get any good publicity in this town ?? Yea, I can see him turning down Obuma. Talk is cheap !!!

I have supported St. Vincents for over 30 years, but that just ended. I'm glad that they are picking up new donors because they just lost mine.

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51WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@Dems, Libs, Dumb Valley Residents

A man visits a soup kitchen and washes some dishes with his family. WOW! You really have those Republicans on the ropes this time!

Benghazi? Dead Ambassador? Intelligence coverups? Embassies attacked? First amendment apologists? Terrorists? Fast and Furious? 4 years of 8%+ unemployment? 23 million unemployed? 47 million on food stamps? 16 trillion in debt? Gasoline and grocery price crisis?

If only the looney leftist union goofs here had the courage to admit they are simply filled with seething, bigoted HATE. That is the truth. Plus they love to talk about anything at all EXCEPT the things that make their demigod look bad, e.g. the real issues facing people.

DNC=Party of HATRED.

The Democrat Party

-Fought for slavery
-Began the Civil War
-Founded the Ku Klux Klan
-Created Jim Crow
-Levied poll taxes
-Fought against Civil Rights
-Ensured Japanese internment

The Democrats have been working to keep minorities on the plantation and in chains for 250 years!!

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52nojimbo(286 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Gee Jeff, you must not have read the St.Vincent dePaul advocacy for universal health care regardless of ability to pay and calls for full government funding of programs for the homeless. It's all there on their website. http://www.svdpusa.org/Resources/Voic...

That's what you were funding Jeff, a SOCIALIST, commie left wing organization trying to continue the work of that long ago lefty Jesus Christ --- healing the sick for free, feeding the multitudes without just compensation in return.

I'm glad you saw the light Jeff, and can stop trying to help your fellow man with donations and get aboard the Paul Ryan/Ayn Rand express to "greed is good" land. You know Ayn Rand, don't you Jeff --- Paul Ryan's guru and main inspiration. The lady who hated religion and hated altruism (charity) even more. Why not take your donation and give it to the Ayn Rand Society where it can go to inspire more right wing heartless nutjobs like Ryan. http://www.aynrandsociety.org/

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53JeffNEOhio(2 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Well, nojimbo, I guess forcing others to pay for these programs is fine with you. Liberals are so good at spending other people's money. Just not so charitable with their own. I supported what I though was an organization that helped people in need. Although, Obama may be in need, but not the kind of person I was thinking I was helping. I guess you believe all the good works must make up for the intrinsic evil that the Catholic Church calls abortion. I guess you must believe that if you kill unborn babies, there are just less mouths to feed.

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54Rooster(80 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Well this is all an education I guess. It's what happens when folks aren't working, they start talking about Ayn Rand and St. Vincent philosophy. Problem is, both sides are right about the politicians on the other side. We need jobs here, and some soup kitchen donkey isn't who to line up with. Wish someone could collect our votes and pay them over to whoever promises a few billion this direction. We need to forget this political talk and figure out how to play this game like the politicians do and sell our votes for something we can use.

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55redeye1(5663 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

nojimbo . I ,myself will help anyone who is trying to help themselves, but I will no longer will an enabler to people who have made this their lifestyle. Plain and simple!.Call what you want, , but I'm calling it HARD LOVE!

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56WhatRUAfraidOf(85 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

What I don't understand about the near-sycophantic following of Ayn Rand is that she was a lesbian atheist, and I thought the Republican platform states unequivocally that everyone is supposed to be a Christian who thinks homosexuality is a mortal sin. Talk about a bunch of hypocrites. The only morality that Repubs want to legislate is for everyone BUT themselves! THEY won't have to worry if someone in their family wants contraception or an abortion in the case of rape or incest because they can typically well-afford to go somewhere and get it where it IS legal.

How many of these Republican arbiters of morality have turned around and been found to be a HECK of a lot less moral than they let on? Moral majority, my foot!

I have donated to St Vincent de Paul, because I've read about the actual Saint Vincent de Paul and believe in his mission, and will continue to do so. And if I have to throw an extra $5 in the basket after mass once in a while to help offset the idiots who would quit donating, then so be it. That is one McDonald's lunch, which I don't need anyway.

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57kurtw(1822 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Ryan was an idiot for going there in the first place- considering the political bias of the organization.

What was he thinking? They weren't going to let him use their turf to score political points. It sounds to me the whole deal was a setup: he let himself get blindsided.

One fact is clear- he didn't just bully his way in, he was invited in by the soup-kitchen manager- who, when she got reprimanded by her superior- had to cover for herself.

However it happened, Ryan was an idiot for going there- it's tantamount to a union organizer going to a Chamber of Commerce meeting and passing out promotional literature.

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58slammindoor(5 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

It's funny I didn't see a mention in the Vindicator when Biden came to the Canfield Fair for a photo op. The entire 4H court was told to go home and get dressed up because he was going to meet them. He blew by them with a wave (and a grin of course). It's ok for a democrat to use the Valley for a photo op...but not a Republican. This is just another witch hunt from Betras and his goons, because they have no positive record of their own to stand on.

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59meadebakes(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Juanita Sherba should leave for her angry outburst...Sorry for placing the blame on Brian Antal. The words I take issue with came from Sherba.

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60Jive_Turkey(32 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Every chance, every opportunity, every smidget of hope to bash on republicans is taken advantage of by the Vindicator and it's loyal goons. Some of you leeching the system need to wake up and start carrying your own weight.

Good for Ryan for taking the time to visit the Valley, albeit it wasn't the best choice and he went about it in a terrible way, it doesn't make him a bad person. Blame the soup kitchen for not following it's own bylaws and guidelines, afterall, that's what they were written for.

I think William Swinger is one of the few people on this thread that are actually awake, some of you other drones are stuck in this primitive thought process where you think you're owed something simply because your alive and you reside in this city, state, country. Look outside the U.S... People are standing up for their rights and going through the struggles just for basic freedoms. We take advantage of those and ask for more!?

This world is rapidly changing, we need to change with it or be left behind. With $17T in debt, we need to come up with some new ways to boost our economy, not beg for an increase on the debt limit or be forced to shut down! Wake up people! We need REAL CHANGE.

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61twin(18 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Island Mike

How's Obama plan working out?
23 million unemployed
47 million on food stamps
47% of people don't pay taxes
Obama plan is working out Great.

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62rick98(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Perhaps the objectiveness of the president of that St.Vincent DePaul Council is the larger issue. Paul Ryan and his wife to give back to church and larger community.I am a supporter of the society and the great work it does but think in this case its' local president needs to be reveiwed,funny how the Post created this story with his help.

Whether one agrees with Paul Ryan or not, at least he is not willing to compromise his faith for the job unlike Joe Biden did during the last debate.
Let's do a fact check into the agenda of this local president of St.V. DePaul

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63Westsider(269 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I guess this leaves me with a big "So What?" He was allowed in - he didn't force his way in - all politicians do photo ops - I think a change of leadership at the St. Vincent de Paul is in order. This should not have caused the uproar that it did

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64peacelover(839 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Here, take my picture washing the tray that a poor man's food sat on. Aren't I a wonderful, caring fellow? (dashes out the door) By the way, you can kiss your $12,000 goodbye.

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65PAborn(21 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

For everyone who says they will stop donating until Juanita Sherba (who is a dedicated volunteer) is gone, I must ask how many of you have had the privilege to serve along side her at the soup kitchen? She is a passionate advocate for social justice in this community and serves at the soup kitchen, along with other volunteers, to make sure those less fortunate are able to have a good breakfast. Juanita doesn't just talk the talk; she walks the walk. I challenge you detractors to get up from your warm beds on a bitterly cold winter morning and go serve along side Juanita and the other volunteers. Donating to a charity is admirable and necessary for the survival of the charity; but, working hands get the job done.

The anger here should be directed toward those who use charitable organizations for personal/political points; not toward those who serve day in and day out to help those who are truly in need.

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66republicanRick(1736 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

"The anger here should be directed toward those who use charitable organizations for personal/political points; not toward those who serve day in and day out to help those who are truly in need."

You are exactly right PAborn -- Mr Antal and Ms Sherba have tried to score political points with the liberal media. Both should be removed from their jobs.

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67whitesabbath(738 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

That pan was washed Clean, way to go Ryan family. Would of liked to see him and his family actually eat the food.

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68WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Paul Ryan is a U.S. Congressman. Let's compare him to Jesse Jackson Jr., also a U.S. Congressman.

Paul Ryan (R) Wisconsin, was welcomed into a soup kitchen in Youngstown by an employee, unlike the original claim that he forced his way in. He washed some dirty dishes, unlike the original claim that the dishes were already cleaned. Photographs and video were taken. The liberal dems in charge of the place manufactured a controversy and delivered it to the press to sabotage a political candidate days before a national election.

Jesse Jackson (D) Chicago hasn’t showed up for work in four months. His representatives say he is too depressed to appear. He is under two distinct federal investigations- by the FBI for embezzlement and fraud, and by the Justice Department for attempting to "buy" a Senate seat vacated by BHO. Though too depressed to come to work Jackson has been consistently observed and now photographed smoking cigars on the porch of his $1.3 million home. The photos were taken the same day he was accused of embezzling campaign funds to decorate his home and of drinking away his nights at bars with women other than his wife.

Now, which of these should the biased, worthless national media whip into a froth?

What a joke. A sad one at that.


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69CrazyforYeshua(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Where was all the backlash when Barry came to town, and the pizza shop owner lifted him up and gave him a bear hug? You do realize that was a sham, correct? NO ONE gets to rush the President for any reason, anywhere, at any time..but, it was Barry, so that's ok, right??? It's ok for him to take an opportunity and run with it.....

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70WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Antal and Sherba should be fired and the organization's 501(c)(3) status should be questioned. These two and by extension the organization conspired to engage in political action and affect political outcomes days prior to a national election. There is nothing tax exempt about that.

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71republicanRick(1736 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Brian Antal described himself as an independent. However, voting records show that he has voted in the Ohio Democratic primary for the past 17 years.

This story has Antal (in connection with David Betras who told him to call the Washington Post) and the Vindicator working in concert to try to embarass a Republican Vice President nominee.

Remember these facts next time to want to donate money, hire a lawyer, or find out the news from unbiased sources.

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72WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

From the IRS...

"Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office."

"...public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity."

"Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes."

Now, who is breaking the rules again you democrat scumbags? Ryan did nothing wrong here. The same cannot be said of Sherba, Antal and the organization. Come on Dems. You say let's get the rulebreakers and cheaters. Let's get the lib dems at the SVd'P.


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73wolfhawk(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

To St Vincent De Paul president,
I can not for the life of me understand why you made a big deal of this. You should inform your volunteers of your rules, Ryan didn't do anything wrong here.
Why aren't you complaining about the current administrations assult on the Catholic religion and why we catholics have many lawsuits against this administration. I think you should take the" St" out of your name, so that good catholics will not donate to your bias organization. I promise that my friends that live in Youngstown , if I have anything to do with it,will not donate anything anymore to Vincent De Paul. What you did was political !!!!Catholics beware!!!!

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74McLovin(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

LOL at the partisanship of the right. You claim the charity broke 501(c)(3) because they tried to be neutral, but see nothing wrong and shouldn't make a big deal of letting the REPUBLICAN VP CANDIDATE use your kitchen for a political photo op?

Biased and hypocritical aren't we?

And LOL at those of you attacking the charity (and withholding supposed 'donations') because they spoke out against this stunt. The poor don't need your kind of conditional charity.

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75republicanRick(1736 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

David Betras prodded Mr. Antal to contact the Washington Post and Vindicator. The liberal editors at both papers then put this story out there to try to embarass a Vice President nominee.

501(c)s non-profits are not allowed to do this. Thus, their non-profit status should, by law, be suspended and a review and audit conducted.

This is how a corrupt process works in Youngstown.

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76uptowngirl(139 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I give Paul Ryan credit for being a practicing Catholic who believes in sanctity of life. All the other Catholic hypocrites including politicians, some clergy and nuns apparently feel that "social justice" includes abortion. Antal and Sherba should be gone, they are an embarassment. The more I read about this the more I think it was a set up.

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77harleydog(243 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@youngstown for life, you are dead wrong. I have donated plenty so you do not know what you are talking about. I have also volunteered, have you?? I resent the fact that they are making a issue out of this because if it was Obama or Biden dropping by this would be a totally different story. Yes I am a Republican and PROUD OF IT>

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78Westsider(269 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I challenge Mr. Antal to share his political affiliation and the board of elections to share his voting record since he has chosen to make such an issue of this. If St Vincent de Paul is nonpolitical then he should have just let it go instead of providing national fodder that again put Youngstown Ohio in such a great light. Those who are concerned should send letters and emails to the Bishop of Youngstown because of course the local SVdP does not have a website.

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79antidem(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

What a joke you radical lefters in this Valley are! Instead of being grateful Ryan stopped and gave the center some much needed exposure, you complain. Can't you put the hatred aside and be reasonable for once? Had it been Obama or Biden you'd be gloating right now. Do you forget the zillion of photo ops our dear President has displayed in the last 3.5 years? Come on......Get a grip.

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80bonniec(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Come on people, do you not think that both sides stage photo opportunities???? Would you be saying the same if this was Obama? Show some intelligence and pride; you should be proud that your city is receiving national attention

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81tadigiacomo(15 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

>>LOL at the partisanship of the right. You claim the charity broke 501(c)(3) because they tried to be neutral <<

I wouldn't say they're being completely neutral. It sounds to me as though they may have violated this twice: First time for letting him have the photo op, second for causing a stink about it and claiming to be victimized. Like it or not their rant is a highly political given the time and the political climate. They should have told Ryan at the door, thanks, but no thanks unless you came here to volunteer with no cameras and entourage. We don't want to violate our 501(c)(3) status by being construed as promoting political party or candidate.

Of course it was a photo op. Whoever doesn't know that really has their head buried in the sand. Maybe they would have felt used by Biden had he done the same thing, but I have a strange suspicion that we wouldn't have heard anything about it. Face it - Y-town has an extraordinary left-leaning political bias that dates back to generations before us. It was a ballsy move by Ryan, just maybe not a well thought out one. Like someone said earlier - he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. The right will say he was reaching out like a good Catholic, and the left will call him names and say he was seizing a political opportunity. Why can't folks just accept it for what it was - a politician being a politician. That's what they do - ALL of them. We should expect this, especially at this time. Just like John Kerry and the hunting thing. Friends of mine in the area (pro 2nd amendment types) weren't happy about that one, either, but everyone knew why he did it and just laughed it off.

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82Jive_Turkey(32 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Thank you, WilliamSwinger, for being one of the few people on this thread who does research and effectively provides links and relative information on the matters of terrible fiscal planning and failed governmental reforms.

Paul Ryan did more washing clean pans than Joe Biden has done in 4 years as the VP. Has anybody even seen the presidential / vice presidential debates? The Dems were on the fence the whole time and showed absolutely no passion in helping improve our society. The Reps, on the other hand, were fierce and intense... They want to turn this country around!

Remember the old saying, "There are NO FREE LUNCHES."! This country, currently, is revolving around the fact that half the country is working to support the other half. The Dems continue to let this happen and continue to drive this society into the ground.

Do your part and vote for REAL CHANGE.

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83cambridge(4136 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

the teabagger/republicans are so funny!

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84iBuck(231 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I'm "shocked" and "angry" that there was any fuss at all, since Mittens and Ryan give far higher percentages of their money to charity than Obummer and BiteMe.

Likewise, I'm "shocked" and "angry" that the Obummers still have their investments in firms which engage in off-shore out-sourcing. This may help explain why the push among politicians to keep doing things to make US job markets worse is so bipartisan...

and why I'm likely to vote for Virgil Goode this time.

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85Jive_Turkey(32 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Remember what the "Tea Party" did in the 1773? They started the revolution that ended terrible socialist agendas and fought for freedom, the same freedom that you enjoy today.

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86palmer21(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

imagine that a women named Juanita Sherba. Has something to say about a republican canidate. Probably should go home to her 12 kids and her brother and his kids.. Sucking off of the govement teat

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87twootherone(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Ryan was invited, he didn't just barge in, everything was dealt with it before he arrived. This lamenting now about nothing is disgusting. The Atol is not a Christian. He should be pleased to get recognition, that means potential donations on top of it. And money is money, doesn't matter from where it comes from. But I myself wouldn't give a cent to this facility, as long this Atol is there. Sheela is a windfane, but the other one is an ischa. BTW I respect all kind of people, if they are honest, no matter which religion, or gender, or color, or ,,,,,,, but liars and egos or dishonest people can go where the pepper is growing. Shame on you Atol. People if you are hungry go somewhere else, he is a fake christian and will sell you for a cent or drops you for a cent. I wish lots of people do donate to an other place in this town, not to st. vincent, anymore, as long a this trader over there has anything to say. (And beside of it Ryan has donated to charity a lot more then Atol's Messiah. And forget about Biden, 1%, together as family. And for Rom. you (Atol) could only dream of it, what he has donated to charity).You missed a great opportunity, but unfortunately others have to suffer for your dummness. Wish the town a lot of success and that all the unemployed will find work soon. All the best to all you good people.
Somebody who cares, about all people, rich or poor, and/or .... unbiased.

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88republicanRick(1736 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

The big question now is whether the Vindicator will investigate Mr Antal and David Betras and their role in allowing a non-profit to become embroiled in politics. My feeling is the Vindy will just ignore this and hope the story fades away.

We know Mr Antal has voted for the past 17 years in Democratic primaries. What is his background, what is his "real" job?

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89redeye1(5663 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Hey dumbocrats , Another of BO's green energy companies ( a battery manufactiring company) has filed for bankruptcy. Another 250 million dollars taken from taxpayers and wasted on a harebrain idea. Just another stupid idea from BO. The only ones who profitted from were the owners.He's the one I want running this country NOT!

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90sue(179 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

According to Politico, Romney gave 30% of his income to charity in 2011 or just over 4 million dollars. Biden gave a whopping1.5% of his income to charity. It's about doing the walk not just the talk folks.

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91jojuggie(1723 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

You Ytown Dems won't believe the following:

Is it possible that it is not Bush's fault. OMG!! Have we been deceived?

This video clearly shows that George Bush warned Congress starting in 2001, that this economic crisis was Coming, if something was not done. But Congress refused to Listen, along with the arrogant Congressman, Barney Frank, Senators Dodd and Schumer. This video says it all.

People reportedly did not want this video on You Tube; it was taken off. This link is of the same video, but is routed through Canada . Everyone in America needs to see this before it is yanked off the Internet again! Let's see how far we can spread it before it's pulled off the Canadian site.


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92Spiderlegs(161 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I wasn't aware that St. Vincent de Paul Society was a political organization. I will remember this next time I'm asked for a donation. I'm sure there are other people-focused organizations that want my charitable giving.

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93carago11(44 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

One Obama supporter complains and this makes the front page of the paper? The Vindicator is run by a bunch of idiots!!! Just like IslandMike!!

Vote Romney for President and lets get this country finally back on track!

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94umyeah(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Unfortunately, the person who authorized the visit did not know they were not authorized to authorize the visit! How is Paul Ryan, Barack Obama (or anyone on their campaign) supposed to know who is authorized to authorize the visit, when St. Vincent does not even know who is authorized to authorize the visit? These folks need to stop talking before they discredit themselves and their organization any more than they have already in the national spotlight! Hopefully they sign up for PR 101 at YSU....

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95DwightK(1537 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Before anyone jumps on Antal and St. Vincent DePaul too much, let's remember that the Catholic Church is suing over implementing Obamacare provisions that force them to provide birth control at charities. Because of that I am willing to believe him when he says no candidate would be welcome.

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96Homeschoolmom(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Please remember, this was set up ahead of time, none of us are that stupid. Also Mr. Antal says he receives no pay for what he does,( at the news conference ) what he doesn't tell you is that as they ask for donations to be sent to the bank his wife is employed and is in a management position there, also he doesn't tell you as he helps the poor, he owns 2 homes, one in Boardman, one in Poland. I also know he is in charge of a local church SV DePaul society. I think maybe the Bishop of Youngstown should run a background check on this man.

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97whatdyathink(1 comment)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Uneducated sheep? I can assure you (I'd address you by username had you had enough class to choose one I'd want to address you by): speak for yourself. There are thousands of highly educated, intelligent, talented people in the Mahoning Valley, which, by the way isn't the pot of swill you describe it as. If you honestly feel the way you do about the area and those of us who are proud to call it home, please leave...and take your pathetic attitude with you. And for the record, yes, I vote every election, but I don't look for the D, I make an intelligent, informed decision for the best person for the job.

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98Lifes2Short(3882 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

All this foolishness over a President candidate visiting a soup kitchen. Are you people serious? What is the big deal, the campaign asked for permission, received it and now everyone is changing there story, ticked off, acting like little children. Get real people. There are a he@# of a lot more things to worry about then this stupid article.
What a amazing society we have here. Geez...

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99fd6636(288 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Why was this guy at a soup kitchen for?? Republican farce that backfired in the republiturds face again!!! Hey, did some one tell Ryan that those people could be part of the 47% that Romney doesen't worry about! Remember this all you people out there who feel your somehow "above" those people at the soup kitchen, and a good friend put it like this to me when I passed a homeless man down town on night and it goes like this: " Your only as good as your next pay check, and we are blessed to have what we have". I thought about it, and gave the man food money. Food for thought. Wash that in your already clean bowl Ryan!! This stunt was a disgrace!!

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100Max(98 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Why was he at a soup kitchen? Same reason Obama was at a pizza joint, getting picked up by some random guy. Same reason Biden was hanging out with a biker chick...

Do you understand the term "politician"???

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102MNJ(5 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Wow! SAINT Vincent De Paul is supporting Obrainless? A Catholic organization supporting someone who is forcing abortion in his healthcare? What in the world are you people doing? On behalf of all practicing Catholics please change the name of your organization. And for you Catholics who approve of abortion maybe it's time you quit being hypocrites. Go to Rev Wrights church, he hates everyone!

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103uselesseater(229 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

St. Vincent De Paul has surely fallen down and lost their way.

What seems to be happening in the wake of the Ryan visit is De Paul's participation in politics. Something disallowed under the non profit tax exemption status.

Brian J. Antal needs reprimanded by the BISHOP.

Catholics shouldn't be supporting Obama as a matter of principal. Why? Forced healthcare mandates that violate religious freedoms and the Democrats insatiable love of abortions. A top down vote of confidence based these principals can meet legal scrutiny. What has been pushed by Antal, probably doesn't meet legal compliance.

Antal purported to be an INDEPENDENT. But a real newspaper like the Washington Post has set the record straight (shame that the Vindy didn't do the homework on this matter in their own front yard):

"Brian J. Antal, president of the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society, described himself as an independent voter when telling the Post that vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan came into the soup kitchen without permission on Monday and “did nothing.” But records from the Mahoning County Board of Elections show that he has voted in Democratic primaries since at least 1995. "


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104peacelover(839 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

To all of you Ryan lovers:
Your Fox news is showing.

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105southsidedave(5199 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Always something to babble about in these columns.

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106RustOnMyBelt(172 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Whats the matter,Paul? Were the coal miners busy working that afternoon?

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107WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

The complete list of Green Energy Failures. These are all faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies sponsored by President O-Blame-Everyone-Elsa-a:

1 Evergreen Solar ($24 million)*
2 SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
3 Solyndra ($535 million)*
4 Beacon Power ($69 million)*
5 AES’s subsidiary Eastern Energy ($17.1 million)
6 Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
7 SunPower ($1.5 billion)
8 First Solar ($1.46 billion)
9 Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
10 EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
11 Amonix ($5.9 million)
12 National Renewable Energy Lab ($200 million)
13 Fisker Automotive ($528 million)
14 Abound Solar ($374 million)*
15 A123 Systems ($279 million)*
16 Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($6 million)
17 Johnson Controls ($299 million)
18 Schneider Electric ($86 million)
19 Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
20 ECOtality ($126.2 million)
21 Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
22 Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
23 Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
24 Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
25 Range Fuels ($80 million)*
26 Thompson River Power ($6.4 million)*
27 Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
28 LSP Energy ($2.1 billion)*
29 UniSolar ($100 million)*
30 Aure Dynamics ($120 million)*
31 GreenVolts ($500,000)
32 Vestas ($50 million)
33 LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($150 million)
34 Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
35 Navistar ($10 million)
36 Satcon ($3 million)*

*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

Reproduced from http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/p...

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108republicansareevil(4 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

How dare they let in a Republican !
It would have been better to let anyone in except a Republican. I shudder how much they must have been traumatized. There is no worst human being in the world, including Iran,Libya, or Pakistan than a Republican ! How dare any Republicans live in Mahoning County! This is a national disgrace !! We must eradicate all of them,soon!!

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109cambridge(4136 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

william, swing on this....This is the third time that I've seen you post this same BS list. The very first company on your list, Evergreen Solar received NO federal funding and I've provided a link as proof just like I did the las two times you posted your BS.

It took about a minute to find that link but I'm not going to bother looking up the rest for you. Don't you know by now that when you lie on this board people are going to call you out? I know that doesn't matter to teabagger/republicans, they will just tell the same lie again tomorrow. Just shows how desperate these clowns are.


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110IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

You knew Ryan was out of his element when he tried to order the Calimari and the Soup du Jour.

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111IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

'm still awaiting an answer to the question...........
Can anyone tell me why Mitt-Flopper who they claim to be soooo great as a former governor of Massachusetts is not even going to carry his state in the election?
C'mon Neo-Cons, not everyone all at once. LOL!

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112cambridge(4136 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Mike....Not only is romney going to lose Massachusetts the state he was governor of, he will also lose the state he was born in Michigan, the state he lives in California and Wisconsin the state eddie munster represents. If all those people don't know who's who, who do?

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113uptowngirl(139 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

IslandMike--because MA is a Dem state and Mitt is a Republican. Just like if Kasich ran for president he would not carry OH.

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114Shot_In_Youngstown(141 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Obama will be down the street at the Covelli Center Friday. Perhaps he will drop in and wash some clean dishes. Perhaps he knows better than to bother...

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115dawn421(265 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

@Cambridge. Thank you for calling William the idiot he is. He posts the same BS in every comment, and if you disagree with him he calls you names.

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116IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago


Mitt-flopper had to beat a Democrat to become Governor of Massachusetts, so why all of a sudden do they not want there own former Governor in the White House? I guess the people there did not like the job he did. A state with one of the highest levels of education in the country had record high unemployment when he was there. Imagine the King of Outsourcing having high unemployment in his state. He didn't mind a bit sending jobs to China. Mitt & Paul are LOSERS.

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117dawn421(265 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I also love the repeated comments about people posting during the day as having no job. Did any of you judgmental opinionated blowhards stop to think maybe some of us may work afternoons or midnights? Or do you think everyone works a 9 to 5?

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118WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago


"Massachusetts, one of the original 13 colonies, joined the Union in February 1788, and has participated in all 56 presidential elections. The state has been reliably Democratic since 1928, but has voted Republican four times since then – twice each for Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan."


Does that answer your question? Mass. has been in the tank dem since before Mitt was born. Now what was your point about this again?


Everything posted is true and accurate. Debate the point please if you have one. Just admit you're mad because your candidate is getting crushed.

You say, just two sentences apart "[t]hank you for calling William the idiot he is..." and "...if you disagree with him he calls you names..."

How is this supposed to to make you look?

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119dawn421(265 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

So you feel it is true that those who post during the day are unemployed? You are truly a priceless piece of work. And you do call people rude names when they do not agree.

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120Friendo(8 comments)posted 3 years, 8 months ago

A Catholic candidate showing up to try and help out at a Catholic charity shouldn't cause anyone anger. Whether it's realized or not, this soup kitched just got national publicity and I bet donations go up next year AND I bet Paul Ryan is more receptive to pleas for a little federal help. Way to turn a positive story into a negative.

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