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Both parties 'messed' up, Ryan tells Youngstown crowd

Published: Sun, October 14, 2012 @ 12:01 a.m.
  Skolnick talks to MSNBC

The Vindicator's David Skolnick was on MSNBC Saturday, Oct. 13, to discuss his views on this year's presidential  campaign in Ohio.

The Vindicator's David Skolnick was on MSNBC Saturday, Oct. 13, to discuss his views on this year's presidential campaign in Ohio.

  St. Vincent de Paul Press Conference

Brian J. Antal, president of the local St. Vincent de Paul Society, discusses the society's position on political visits.

Brian J. Antal, president of the local St. Vincent de Paul Society, discusses the society's position on political visits.




U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, the Republican nominee for vice president, aggressively criticized Democratic President Barack Obama, saying he’s “never seen a president so partisan as this one.”

Ryan told a crowd Saturday at Youngstown State University that he and Mitt Romney, the GOP’s presidential nominee, will fix the problems of job loss, dependency on foreign aid and oil — making “North America” energy independent “by the end of this decade” — and health care, if elected.

Ryan, who lives in Janesville, Wis., said Youngstown reminds him of his hometown.

“We come from similar areas,” he said. “Please know we want to get these manufacturing jobs back here. We want to make sure that this is a country and a society where we are the envy of the world, where we’re No. 1 in manufacturing again, not second to China, like we are right now.”

Since Obama took office, about 600,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost, Ryan said.

That’s true, but according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, 1.38 million were lost in 2009, Obama’s first year as president. Since then, the manufacturing sector has seen growth every year, with a net loss over those three-plus years of about 600,000, according to labor statistics. Also, those years were the first since 1997 in which the nation increased manufacturing jobs.

Ryan spoke Saturday for about 17 minutes to the crowd of about 1,400 in YSU’s Kilcawley Center — including an overflow room of 200 who watched him on a giant-screen TV — and then answered six questions during a 42-minute town hall.

Under Obama, the nation is “heading in the wrong direction,” and “this president isn’t doing anything about it,” Ryan said.

Ryan said Democrats and Republicans in Washington created the increased national debt.

“Both political parties messed” up the budget, he said, repeating a phrase he used on CNN in May 2011.

Ryan campaigned in the heart of one of the most Democratic areas of Ohio, a key battleground state. Obama won Mahoning and Trumbull counties in 2008 over Republican John McCain by 20 percentage points.

But Republicans have not shied away from coming to the area recently. On Tuesday, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a prominent Romney surrogate, campaigned in Lordstown.

In a written response, Danny Kanner, an Obama campaign spokesman, said: “A PowerPoint can’t hide the simple truth: all Romney and Ryan are offering is the same failed policies that led to the crisis and punished middle-class families in the first place.”

Ryan used PowerPoint graphs and charts Saturday at YSU.

Before Ryan spoke in Kilcawley Center’s Chestnut Room, he stopped at the overflow room, near the building’s food court, and spoke for about two minutes.

“Unfortunately, the room got full,” he said. “That’s a good problem to have.”

Ryan added: “Mitt and I are offering solutions;we’re offering ideas how to fix problems.”

As for Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, Ryan said, “They’re offering distortions. They’re offering blame. They’re offering four more years of the same. We’re not going to fall for that.”

Ryan also sharply criticized Obama for not labeling China as a “currency manipulator.”

“We are going to stop this kind of cheating,” Ryan said. “If people are manipulating our currency, we are going to say that they are manipulating our currency.”

On behalf of Obama’s campaign, Kanner responded: “Congressman Ryan’s tough rhetoric can’t hide the fact that Mitt Romney will never crack down on China’s cheating. Just look at his record. When President Obama stood up to China [in 2009] on behalf of American tire workers, Romney called it ‘decidedly bad for the nation’” in his book, “No Apology.”

Stronger reaction to Ryan’s remarks came from U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan [no relation] of Niles.

After the event, Tim Ryan said he was “stunned” to hear the other Ryan criticize the president for not labeling China as a currency manipulator. Paul Ryan was among only 79 House members who voted against his [Tim Ryan’s] Chinese currency bill in 2010, the 17th District Democrat said.

“What won’t these guys say to try to get elected?” Tim Ryan asked. “Paul Ryan had his chance to stand up to China, and he caved to the corporate interest. Now he wants us to believe he cares about this issue. Give me a break.”

Earlier, during Paul Ryan’s appearance, he joked with the Youngstown audience about sharing a surname with his Democratic colleague.

“I get a lot of mail from you by the way,” he said, referring to the common mix-up of his mail with Tim Ryan’s.

“It happens to us all the time,” he said to laughter.

But Tim Ryan wasn’t laughing.

After the YSU event, Paul Ryan and his family visited the St. Vincent De Paul Society Dining Hall, next door to The Vindicator, to serve food to the poor. But breakfast time had passed, so instead, they washed dishes.

“We just wanted to come by and say, ‘Thanks,’” Ryan said to a few volunteers. “This is what makes society go.”

Ryan and his family arrived by airplane late Friday at the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport in Vienna and spent the night at a hotel in Boardman.

Ryan and his wife, Janna, ate at Chili’s after getting into town. After a Boardman High School football game, five freshmen saw the couple eating dinner and waved and gave a thumbs up. Ryan went to them and invited the five — Taylor Campy, Jennie Neapolitan, Kris Santilli, Jack Bresnahan and Mark Gothem — to his table to talk for a few minutes.


1IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Mitt The Mormon and his buddy Paul The Moron.

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2WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

See folks? IslandMike is just another example of the ugliness present in the looney leftist liberal union democrats these days. Avoid voting any of them in this November. Remember when they all BOOED at the inclusion of "God" in their convention? Religious intolerance much, leftists? How about you, Mike?

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3isaac45(413 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

"looney (sic) leftist liberal union democrats"...now that's beautiful

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4bmanresident(607 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I'm surprised the Union folks of the Valley haven't pitched a fit about Ryan doing a job for free that a Union Brother can do for a fat wage and unlimited sick days.

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5slappysmith(55 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

well even the people up here in wisconsin think ryan is an imbecile and a poor choice for vp. but of course they arent as smart as the rocket scientists that reside in youngstown

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6timOthy(802 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Look! Eddie Munster serving food and BREAKING CODES ! Where IS YOUR HAIR NET EDDIE ?? Typical Republican breaking ALL RULES !!!

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7TylerDurden(367 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Whenever I read posts from some of you I can hear the dueling banjoes playing in the background. You are poster children for the remedial arts in Youngstown.

Harry Reid is a mormon as well, and well, Nancy Pelosi certainly fits the bill of moron, so what gives?

Paul Ryan was washing dishes, not serving food. The article makes that clear. I don't think you need a hair net to wash dishes.

Now go home and get your shine box. Spit shine timOthy and spit shine Mike.

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8UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Photo Op! Ryan doen't care about anyone but the Rich One Percent's of which he and his are are members. The valley must come out BIG for Obama & Biden in this 2012 election.

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9MLC75(661 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Some of you are just ignorant people,who lack any type of class.

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10WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago


"looney (sic) leftist liberal union democrats"...now that's beautiful"

I'm not sure what you're shooting for here Isaac but based on your collective commentary I am assuming the point is a thinly veiled criticism of my political positions through denigrating of my grammatical choices.

Nice try but you should go do some more studying before you stick your foot in your mouth again. Let me help you:

The Latin adverb sic, short for sic erat scriptum or "as it was written," is usually reserved for citing erroneous or unconventional usages of words penned by other authors. The adverb is customarily placed just after the questioned usage and is contained in square brackets, for example "[sic]." So remember to use square brackets when you question or challenge usages to avoid committing the exact error you think you are criticizing in others but are actually committing yourself. Irony?

The spelling "looney" is an homage to Leon Schlesinger's "Looney Tunes" and is not erroneous or unconventional. The reference is standard usage for illustrating claims of absurdity or lunacy through oblique reference. Do you understand? Questions? No?

I'll have a spit shine please.

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11chuck_carney(499 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

UnionForever, I couldn't agree with you more that little timmie ryan had to make his photo op at YSU wearing his YSU sweatshirt. At least it was nice to see he is still alive.

Paul Ryan's career has shot past little timmie at the speed of light. little timmie can't even carry Nancy Pelosi's jock strap. But he sure can carry her party tray

Oh I almost forgot to mention some of the 1 per center's supporting timmie ryan,:

Richard Trumpka, Jimmy Hoffa, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kerry Heinz, John Edwards, George Soros, plus a cast of characters.

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12peacelover(839 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

They probably had to show him how to wash that tray since I am sure he's never washed a dish in his life before now.

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13Max(98 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Please realize that there is no point whatsoever in trying to respond to these uninformed, ignorant morons who make these ridiculous comments and accusations towards anyone who opposes their outdated "democratic" views. It is beyond obvious that Romney and Ryan are extremely intelligent, educated and successful men. You can't change these people's minds, and they will continue voting in the same old Dems forever. Which is why this area has sunk to the depths that it has, and will never improve. Same old, same old. I just read their moronic comments, and shake my head. They are exactly the reason that I sadly encouraged my children to leave the area for higher education and employment. It's really past time that this area should progress, but it's not going to happen God help us all.

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14redeye1(5669 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Max That has to be one of the best posts yet. I too, have told my two sons to leave "DEATH VALLEY for alot more job opportunties then they will ever get here. God helps us all

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15Steve8ko(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I wish Little Timmy Ryan would have taken the national media on a tour of Youngstown to show them the utopia that 40 years of democrat rule has built.

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16redeye1(5669 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Hey FLHTCUI Where is BO? He doesn't even show up in the Death Valley ( Y-TOWN) area because he knows he has fooled the general populace about good things he is doing. With free phones, free breakfast for their kds at schools, free lunches at schools, Then they have extra money on their EBT cards for FUN things to do They don't even have to get out of bed if they don't want to. They live by the motto " Don't let work interfere with my partying lifestyle" Just maybe if they had too work to survive there wou;ld be less crime. Oh wait Y-town would lose its title CRIME TOWN U.S.A. . Where I come from, if you want something you work for it. Last time, I checked no one died from sweating..

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17borylie(951 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

To you liberal/democrats I ask you this: If all the poor people were brought into the middle class,if all the middle class was able to maintain their standard of living and the successful were penalized into the middle class,would this make you satisfied? Is this not the dream of liberals?

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18DSquared(1788 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

God Bless Romney-Ryan. Please vote out the 2 Used-car salesman posers now in office.

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19jojuggie(1723 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Hey FLHT, One national magazine rated the top 100 cities in the US & Ytown came in 100.
I did move.

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20jojuggie(1723 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

IM got the quote wrong - The correct one is: "I would rather have a Mormon in the White House than a MORON."

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21redeye1(5669 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

FLHTCU1 Colors of states change just like the color of leaves this time of year. After NOvember 6th there will plenty more REDS then BLUES! Just wait and see

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22IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

We know where Mitt the Mormon stands on women's issues, his church feels you should be able to have as many wives as you want. NICE.

The GOP - Telling women what to do with their bodies for 200 years!!

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23jojuggie(1723 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

What a joke IM is. What's he going to suggest next - that Bush is the reason for all of the problems in the Ytown area.

Oh, Mitt doesn't believe in the EXECUTION of the unborn.

When a woman becomes pregnant, she announces "I'm going to have a baby." She never announces that 'I'm going to have a fetus."

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24TylerDurden(367 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

The senate majority leader is a mormon and a liberal.

Can you elaborate?

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25WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

The Democrat Party

-Fought for slavery
-Began the Civil War
-Founded the Ku Klux Klan
-Created Jim Crow
-Levied poll taxes
-Fought against Civil Rights
-Insured Japanese internment

The Democrats - Accusing others while working to keep 'em all in chains for 250 years!!

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26Steve8ko(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

for FLHTCUI... First, I live in Poland. And secondly, there will be a lot fewer "blue" states in 3 weeks. LOL If you think Youngstown is so great, why don't you walk the streets at night? We will read about you in the Vindy

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27Freeatlast(1991 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

I hope you do not walk the streets of Poland at night STEVE
If you do , we can put no trust in your words. Or you are off your MID's

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28Steve8ko(3 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

Who mentioned a depression? Don't put words in my mouth if you have no response. And a nightly walk in Poland was not what I said. You lose.

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29ConservativeDude(36 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

After this election there will be a major shake up in this Valley. You can look forward to the Republicans making a major move to educate the valley residents as to why 50myears of Democratic rule needs to be over come. Look back 50 years and compare to what you have now. Not much has changed.

Tim Ryan has brought money into the valley but, folks, it is our taxpayer dollars that are coming back. NO one accounted for our money that went to Solydra. Tim doesn't talk about that. Ask him where your money went. Ask him about your money that subsidizes GM.
Ask him who is paying for all the food stamps ineligable people get. WAKE UP PEOPLE, WE ARE BEING HAD!!

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30southsidedave(5199 comments)posted 3 years, 9 months ago

"Messed up"...is that new political term? Ha ha ha

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