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We need a new energy president

Published: Tue, October 9, 2012 @ 12:00 a.m.

We need a new energy president

Today, as hundreds of mil- lions of dollars are being distributed to local landowners, as billions are being invested by oil field companies offering hundreds of jobs, and now hearing the steady drumbeat for training to fill the seemingly endless supply of coming jobs; we must look to see who will support those industries —our future — and vote accordingly.

In short, we must become energy voters. So where does our president stand with his energy vote? Since taking office President Obama has:

1. Decimated the coal industry by killing coal fired power plants and affordable electricity.

2. Gave billions to Brazil to develop their offshore oil assets while shutting down the U.S. Gulf of Mexico exploration for nearly a year.

3. Killed the Keystone XL pipeline that would bring cheaper Canadian oil to market in U.S. refineries and create thousands of jobs to build it; while Ambassador Richard Morningstar recently said that “The United States is ready to help Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Turkey build the Trans-Caspian gas pipeline in the speediest possible manner.”

4. Enacted EPA air quality standards in 2014 that will impair the well servicing companies’ ability to stimulate wells; ultimately making it more difficult to make wells produce the oil and gas.

5. Limited drilling on most federal lands across America.

6. Given billions of dollars to now bankrupt “Green energy” companies like Solyndra, with more of them failing every day.

7. In spite of reduced demand for gasoline, American’s cost of fueling our cars and trucks has doubled during this president’s tenure. His “all of the above strategy” is skewed towards a combination of crony capitalism and NIMBYism. It bears almost no resemblance to the capitalism that brought America to the forefront of every industry in the last 200 years.

In spite of this president, the private sector increased oil and gas production in America, and we are next.

If we truly “vote our pocketbooks,” then we must look clearly at the fact that Northeast Ohio is becoming a focal point for the energy independence America must have.

We need to become energy voters or the bonus checks being distributed today might be the last of the payments we will see.

Dan Crouse, Warren


1kurtw(1266 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

I agree. Only problem is fossil energy, using it, is bad. It will increase Global Warming and within a 100 years or so Los Angelos and, most likely, the entire state of California will disappear.

On second thought, lets burn Coal!

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2cambridge(3293 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

The entire world uses more clean renewable energy every day. Anyone that thinks that drilling, mining and polluting are preferable over using the sun, wind, geothermal and other clean sources of energy are fools.

China is flooding the market with government funded solar panels and wind turbines while America gets left behind in their manufacturing.

You could take all the oil, gas and coal in the world and eliminate them and the worlds population would survive and not miss a beat. Eliminate the worlds supply of clean water and air and everyone on earth would be gone in days.

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3jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

cambridge. we tried it & lost our shirt.


Ener 1........................"
Beacon Pwr................"
Abound Solar.............."
Amonix Solar.............."
Spectra Watt.............."
Eastern Energy..........."

Oh, by the way, all of these companies were Obama Campaign Contributors.

Do you want a businessman who generated billions or a president who wasted TRILLIONS?

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4AnotherAverageCitizen(1176 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

The Gulf of Mexico did not have enough oil spilled into it. We need to pipe some extra in from Canada.

We must continue to give tax breaks to oil companies so the can profit $30 Billion a quarter.

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5DwightK(1367 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Dan, electricity prices aren't up at all. Gas is cheaper to burn so maybe those coal plants should convert instead of closing.

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6DwightK(1367 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Also, I've never understood why people want the XL pipeline. Right now much of that oil goes to refineries in the midwest. If you pipe it to the gulf of mexico it gets refined and exported to other countries. So we get higher prices because the oil supply dries up and the Canadians make all the money for selling it.

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7andersonathan(682 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

List Of Failed Green Energy Jobs & Companies – By Obama

Update: 7/19/12: The Amonix Solar: FAIL! – manufacturing plant in North Las Vegas, subsidized by more than $20 million in federal tax credits and grants given by Obama Administration, has closed its 214,000 square foot facility a year after it opened.

Solar Trust of America: FAIL! - Filed Bankruptcy in Oakland, CA, April 3, 2012

Bright Source: FAIL! - Bright Source warned Obama’s Energy Department officials in March 2011 that delays in approving a $1.6 billion U.S. loan guarantee would embarrass the White House and force the solar-energy company to close. Bright Source lost billions of dollars but is getting more money to keep trying. Can you say, “This isn’t working Mr. President?”

Solyndra: FAIL! - Obama gave $500,000,000 (that’s a HALF BILLION!) in taxpayer money to Solyndra who shut its doors and laid off 1100 workers in August 2011 after billions in losses due to failure to make a solar product that works! Barack Obama was not vetted before being elected President and neither was Solyndra before Mr. Obama threw that taxpayer money down the drain of unproven technology.

LSP Energy: FAIL! - LSPEnergy LP filed bankruptcy protection and a sale of its assets in Feb 2012

Energy Conversion Devices: FAIL! – On February 14, 2012 Energy Conversion Devices, Inc. and its subsidiaries filed for bankruptcy

Abound Solar: FAIL! - Abound Solar received a $400 million loan guarantee from Barack Obama then announced in June, 2012 that it would file for bankruptcy. Many of these failed corporations, such as Abound, donated MILLIONS and continue to donate to Barack Obama’s campaign. Can you say, “Democrat Slush Fund”? Yes this is illegal. But Democrats are being protected from being prosecuted, for now.

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8andersonathan(682 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

SunPower: FAIL! - SunPower stopped producing solar cells in 2011 at near bankruptcy then restructured with the help of, get this, oil giant TOTAL, Inc. who owns 60% stake in SunPower. Irony? The company is still struggling.

Beacon Power: FAIL! – Beacon Power Corp filed for bankruptcy protection in October, 2011 just a year after Obama approved a $43 million Government loan guarantee. They remain barely in business, still struggling to make energy that makes sense or that works at all.

Ecotality: FAIL! - ECOtality, a San Francisco green-tech company that never earned any money and remains on the verge of bankruptcy after receiving roughly $115 million in two loan guarantees from President Obama, who wants to do some more of this kind of Democrat Slush Fund Guarantees after he is elected to a 2nd term.

A123 Solar: FAIL! - A123 Solar received $279 million from taxpayers thanks to President Obama’s Department of Energy loan guarantees even after the Solyndra bankruptcy and is getting another $500M from Obama after a loss of $400M.

UniSolar: FAIL! - Uni-Solar filed for Ch 11 bankruptcy in June 20, 2012 after laying off hundreds of workers. UniSolar received even more Obama money after showing now progress, no profits and is still failing… yet they still remain in business with Obama’s help.

Azure Dynamics: FAIL! - Azure Dynamics filed for bankruptcy in June , 2012 wasting millions in Obama “Stimulus” money and received abatement on taxes owed and and several tax credits. Azure Dynamics LLC filed for bankruptcy protection in Canada and the US. Azure laid off 120 of its 160 employees in Oak Park; Boston; Vancouver, British Columbia; and the UK.

Evergreen Solar: FAIL! - Evergreen Solar received $527 Million in Taxpayer money from Obama and filed bankruptcy in late 2011. Evergreen, which closed its taxpayer-supported Devens factory in March, 2011 cut more than 1800 jobs. Evergreen’s $450 million factory, turned out to be a colossal “waste” of taxpayer money.

Ener1: FAIL! Ener1 Inc. received a $118 million U.S. Energy Department grant from President Obama to make electric-car batteries but filed for bankruptcy protection January 2012 after defaulting on bond debt.

Update: In May 2012 Obama visited a dusty, desert town 30 miles outside Las Vegas Wednesday to declare he’s doubling down on failed federal efforts to boost the solar industry which has NEVER proven to produce a single working product. Like Socialism, no evidence ot works, but they just keep doubling down on the failed ideals!.

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9andersonathan(682 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-... resource for the above information

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10cambridge(3293 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

The city of Alameda, California (population 75,00) has had it's own city run power company for 125 years. All electricity is 66% clean and renewable and for an extra $6.00 a month a household can be 100% clean and renewable.

The future is already here. The sun isn't going to stop shining and the winds aren't going to die. We know how to harness and store that energy. If America doesn't step up we will be left behind in what is going to transform this planet environmentally and economically.


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11andersonathan(682 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Are you this stupid Cambridge. Read above posts. 100's of millions add it up all went under bankrupt. In fact everything Obama touched went under.

But hey your talking 1 city and it is the future of America WOW LMAO

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12HappyBob(285 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Dear Andersonathan,
How many times did Thomas Edison fail?
How many times did Apple fail?
You get the idea...
As every venture capitalist knows (including Mitt Romney)," nothing ventured, nothing gained"
A better, more revealing question is this: What percent of the money allocated for advancing green energy are failures?
If the failure rate is excessive, then consider curtailing investment.
But just because you experience some failures, is not a valid reason to abandon the search for new technologies. Giving up is defeatism, and I would propose that American is not about defeatism.

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13cambridge(3293 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

cathylukasko....More than a trillion dollars of taxpayer money for OIL in Iraq. Just because that is bush's pet project, why should Americans pay for FAILURE?

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14walter_sobchak(2170 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

If the foray into Iraq was all about making money for Bush, Cheney, anf their oil company friends, why is gas almost $4 per gallon after almost 4years of Barack Hussein Obama, our first black muslim president?

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15cambridge(3293 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Gas is almost $4 per gallon so big gas and oil can make record profits quarter after quarter. It's what they do.

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16jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

I Too Have Become Disillusioned.

By Matt Patterson (columnist – opinion writer)

Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, the result of a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job?

Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League, despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community organizer;" a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions.

He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor"; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?

Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal: To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberal Dom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass. Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass - held to a lower standard - because of the color of his skin.

Podhoretz continues: And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) "non-threatening," all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest?

Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon - affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves.

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17Ret(39 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

"How many times did Thomas Edison fail?
How many times did Apple fail?"

Good point, But just how many US tax dollars where given to Thomas Edison to invent the light bulb?

And was Steve Jobs was also on the goverment's dime the same as Solyndra?

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18chuck_carney(499 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Gas at the pump has doubled because of the weak US dollar from the Obama-Fed quantitative easing.

Monetary policy is driving this increase, not the oil companies.

Also, great job, andersonnathan on your post

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19cambridge(3293 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

hunter2....We just disagree what energy should be used.

You are for workers going down in coal mines and burning coal. I'm for those same workers building and installing wind turbines and solar panel farms.

You're for using our clean water supply for forcing oil and gas to the surface so we can burn it. I'm for using the energy of the sun, wind, tides, geothermal and any other clean and renewable source. Call me crazy.

My way is the future of the worlds energy but America is getting left behind because of people like you.

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20jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

We need someone like Henry Ford, Tom Edison etc. to come along with an idea to mfg wind turbines & solar panels efficiently & at low cost for mass marketing before they become commonplace. Solyndra et al is an example of why we are not ready for your idea.

OH WAIT, with all of the regulations put forth, by this adm, that's nearly impossible.

1 of the founders, of Home Depot, recently stated that with all of the current regulations, in force today, they would not be able to start a company like Home Depot. It would be impossible.

You're on the right track cambridge, but what you are dreaming about is impossible in this day and age.

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21JME(801 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Not too many months ago you defended Obama and said the high gasoline price was due to the higher barrel price for oil; which it was then and under Bush.
Now your saying it's all because of the greedy gas/oil companies and their profits?
Good to see you still flip-flop and change your stories. I suppose now you'll change the subject.

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22jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Dreams of My Real Father.

Election battlegrounds will soon see ‘true story’ of Obama’s radical origins
(Dr. Jerome Corsi) – Filmmaker Joel Gilbert has mailed 2.7 million copies of his full-length documentary DVD, “Dreams from My Real Father,” to households in key swing states, with 1.5 million going to Florida, 700,000 to Colorado and 500,000 to Iowa.

This follows an earlier mailing last month, in which Gilbert sent 1.38 million DVDs of “Dreams from My Real Father” to households in swing state Ohio and an additional 100,000 to New Hampshire and 80,000 to Nevada.
Gilbert told WND the direct mail program is aimed at bypassing the mainstream media blackout on his film.

“It’s shocking that in the land of the First Amendment, in the ‘information age’ no less, a state of censorship exists on so many levels in the American media today,” Gilbert said.
By mailing millions of DVDs to households in swing states, Gilbert aims to get his message heard despite the media blackout: “As long as the major media refuse to cover my film, we are going to continue this publicity campaign by shipping DVDs state-by-state, million-by-million, until the media covers the findings in ‘Dreams from My Real Father.’”

Gilbert argues in the documentary that Frank Marshall Davis, the radical poet and journalist who was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party USA, was the real, biological and ideological father of Barack Obama, not Barack Obama, the Kenyan, who came from Africa in 1959 to attend the University of Hawaii in Honolulu.

“Barack Obama built his political career on personal appeal – the son of a Kenyan goat herder who stood above politics,” he explained.
“However, ‘Dreams from My Real Father’ demonstrates that Obama has a deeply disturbing family background, which he intentionally obscured, to hide a Marxist political foundation. Dreams from My Real father is the story Barack Obama should have told, revealing his true agenda for ‘fundamentally transforming America.’”

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23jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

The White House on Friday said Vice President Biden was speaking for himself and President Obama when he said the administration was unaware of additional requests for security in Libya.
“He was speaking directly for himself and for the president,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said at his daily briefing.
The explanation came after Biden made waves during his debate with GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan by indicating the administration was unaware of requests by State Department officials for additional security in Libya.
Oh, so the Obama White House isn’t part of the Obama Administration? And “The White House” is an organization distinct from B. Hussein Obama and J. Biden? They’re just a couple of guys the “White House” occasionally meets for drinks after work? You learn the most amazing things listening to Jay Carney.
The staggering incompetence of the Obama Administration has rocked even some of their media supporters. The best thing they can do at this point is try to downplay the significance of what Obama, Biden, and their spokespeople are saying. They report the news as quickly as possible, in the softest whisper they can manage, and hope readers don’t absorb the import of what they’re saying.
Some reporters are doing nice work on the Benghazi debacle, but Big Media, as a whole, is not building a “narrative” that ties it all together, they way they most certainly would for a Republican administration. If Vice President Sarah Palin had tried to excuse patently false statements made during a debate, concerning a debacle that claimed the lives of four Americans, by claiming that she and President John McCain really weren’t part of the McCain Administration, you’d be seeing 24/7 “America in Crisis” news coverage of it all weekend.
Leaving the Administration’s deceits unconnected by a narrative thread allows ridiculous falsehoods to be taken as serious responses. Obama’s people keep insisting that they’ve been calmly and rationally “investigating” the Benghazi attack, and releasing the best information they have at each given moment. That’s nonsense – they haven’t “released” anything since the “spontaneous video protest” fantasy. All the valid information Americans have about the Benghazi attack has come from investigative reporting and Congressional oversight. The Administration hasn’t given us the truth; we’ve taken it from them.
The White House keeps blaming everything on faulty intelligence reports. Biden blamed the intelligence community for misleading him and the President about the “spontaneous video protest.” A media interested in building a narrative would be asking why they don’t name these criminally negligent intelligence officers, fire them, and call for massive shakeups in the intelligence agencies that failed them so badly… especially since

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24jojuggie(1607 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Proverbs 29:9
"If a wise man has an argument with a fool,the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet."
Proverbs 29:9
Look it up


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25WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

I guess it's safe to say that DwightK, Cambridge, AAC, FLHTCUI and the rest of the Green Energy Goofballs aren't Engineers, Scientists or Mathematicians. If they were they would EASILY understand that all the "Green Energy" in the US, combined, cannot even BEGIN to scratch current production levels.

Electricity production from natural gas outperforming coal? Obviously a completely moronic statement. Go look up the number of megawatts produced by an NG facility versus coal. Not even close. We'd need double the number of NG plants versus coal plants just to keep even. Wind? Joking, right? The industry would be blowing in the wind without TAXPAYER SUBSIDIES. The "industry" is SO expensive it cannot exist without mama feeding the baby constantly. The second that subsidies dry up the wind farms are toast. Cost per megawatt is sky high compared to coal. Solar? Same. Worse even.

Even a basic grasp of Thermodynamics for the users mentioned would answer all of their questions and more. And therein lies the point. The people spouting off about green this and green that simply are uneducated on the topics and are unable to understand the needed material- Calculus, Physics, Thermodynamics, Engineering. Go back to school folks and maybe you'll stand a chance of understanding how stupid the current concepts of "Green Energy" actually are. Until then maybe you could just stop spouting off about things you know nothing about. Thanks!

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26WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Under the "Green Energy President" we have:

-Al Qaeda is ALIVE
-Gasoline prices up 250%
-47 million on FOOD STAMPS
-Grocery prices up 15%
-16.2 trillion dollars in DEBT
-MILLIONS left the labor force
-43 months of 8%+ unemployment
-Income down 8.2%
-Ambassador DEAD
-Benghazi cover up.
-Fast n Furious cover up

King O-Blame-Everyone-Else has to GO!

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27WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

The complete list of Green Energy Failures. These are all faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies sponsored by President O-Blame-Everyone-Else-a:

1 Evergreen Solar ($24 million)*
2 SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
3 Solyndra ($535 million)*
4 Beacon Power ($69 million)*
5 AES’s subsidiary Eastern Energy ($17.1 million)
6 Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
7 SunPower ($1.5 billion)
8 First Solar ($1.46 billion)
9 Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
10 EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
11 Amonix ($5.9 million)
12 National Renewable Energy Lab ($200 million)
13 Fisker Automotive ($528 million)
14 Abound Solar ($374 million)*
15 A123 Systems ($279 million)*
16 Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($6 million)
17 Johnson Controls ($299 million)
18 Schneider Electric ($86 million)
19 Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
20 ECOtality ($126.2 million)
21 Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
22 Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
23 Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
24 Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
25 Range Fuels ($80 million)*
26 Thompson River Power ($6.4 million)*
27 Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
28 LSP Energy ($2.1 billion)*
29 UniSolar ($100 million)*
30 Aure Dynamics ($120 million)*
31 GreenVolts ($500,000)
32 Vestas ($50 million)
33 LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($150 million)
34 Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
35 Navistar ($10 million)
36 Satcon ($3 million)*

*Companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

Reproduced from http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/p...

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28penguin86(11 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Everybody should watch(for free on Armstrong on Demand) Obama 2016. A well done documentary on what makes Obama tick. Its something the Main stream media should have done 4 years ago.

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29cambridge(3293 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

william, swing on this....This is the second time that I've seen you post this same BS list. The very first company on your list, Evergreen Solar received NO federal funding and I've provided a link as proof just like i did the last time you posted your BS.

It took about a minute to find that link but I'm not going to bother looking up the rest for you. Don't you know by now that when you lie on this board people are going to call you out? I know that doesn't matter to teabagger/republicans, they will just tell the same lie again tomorrow. Just shows how desperate these clowns are.


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30WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago


They received taxpayer funded guarantees, just like Solyndra. $25 million worth.


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31cambridge(3293 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

Your link shows that the US government provided almost 3.5 million loans for American companies just like we always have. I guess this is the first time a hand full has failed.

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32WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago


My link? You think I am the government? You come back at me acting like the list I posted is "lies" and post some bogus, nonsense link to an almost unrelated topic in some liberal rag. I completely DESTROY your claim with a link to a government website and the correct information, which you disputed and all you have to say is some lame-assed attempt to change the subject? You are wrong and you lose dirtbag. Admit it. The company did get taxpayer funded guarantees, just like Solyndra, from O-blame-ya and now they are bankrupt- just like I said. Admit it.

But you will not admit you were wrong so you can eat it you scumbag dem loser. The list is correct and you are a LIAR. Now go get your shinebox. I want them shining like mirrors.

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33WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 8 months ago

These failures are unique. They are all "green" companies with dubious claims and products. To my knowledge previous administrations did not risk taxpayer money on these "gimmick green" companies. Only O-blame-ya has sunk hundreds of BILLIONS into worthless, fraudulent "green" companies.

Make sure you vote Romney by the way. Did you know that under O-Blame-Bush-For-Everything we have these things occurring?

-Al Qaeda is ALIVE
-Gasoline prices up 250%
-47 million on FOOD STAMPS
-Grocery prices up 15%
-16.2 trillion dollars in DEBT
-MILLIONS left the labor force
-43 months of 8%+ unemployment
-Income down 8.2%
-Ambassador DEAD
-Benghazi cover up.
-Fast n Furious cover up
-Billions wasted on fraudulent "green" projects

King O-Blame-Everyone-Else has to GO!

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