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Judge plans to deny bid for park Xmas displays

Published: Mon, November 19, 2012 @ 3:21 p.m.

Judge plans to deny bid for park Xmas displays

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A Los Angeles federal judge has indicated she will deny a bid by churches to force suburban Santa Monica to reopen spaces in a city park to private displays including Christmas Nativity scenes.

U.S. District Court Judge Audrey Collins announced her intent in a tentative ruling given to attorneys in advance of a hearing this morning.

An attorney representing a group of Christian churches says he will appeal. The group contends its free-speech rights are being violated.

Christmastime Nativity scenes had been erected in Palisades Park for decades. Last year, atheists overwhelmed the city’s auction process for display sites, winning 18 of 21 slots and triggering a bitter dispute.

The city then banned private, unattended displays at the park.


1paulydel(1508 comments)posted 3 years ago

That judge is a moron. Christmas Day is a holiday it is not called anything else. I think that those of you who oppose Christmas should have to work a regular shift and not get the day off. If get employed at a job they should have something there for the holidays you oppose that way they can make up a works schedule to include you.

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2LtMacGowan(693 comments)posted 3 years ago

Good. The city has no business displaying religious materials to begin with.

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3paulparks(235 comments)posted 3 years ago


My atheist friend... how are you? Still railing against Christianity, eh?

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4NoBS(2389 comments)posted 3 years ago

I don't think this should have been left to the courts at all. The atheists 'loaded the meeting' last year. Shame on the churches if they allow that to happen again.

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5charms(228 comments)posted 3 years ago

Wikipedia says this:

Religion is a collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that
relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values.

This is a pretty good definition of religion. Under this definition, government now promotes the "religion" of atheism in public. I can call atheism a religion because atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. This is a belief system (or "non-belief" system, if you like) that is promoted above the deistic view. So atheists have succeeded in turning the Constitution on its head.

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6Lifes2Short(3879 comments)posted 3 years ago

All this over a Christmas Nativity scene. Is this world that "petty " that because some certain non-believers have to go to court (court that is) to fight for not having a "innocent" Nativity scene displayed for everyone to enjoy. You don't like it, don't go to it. Real simple.
You atheists are pitiful, you don't believe in nothing so how could you ever be happy? You can't. But let others enjoy the life we all been given instead of hating all the time.
I will keep "Christ in Christmas" till the day I die. And that, you atheists, you will never be able to take away.

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7LtMacGowan(693 comments)posted 3 years ago

Nobody is saying you can't have a nativity scene or whatever on PRIVATE Property. Its having it on public property that is the issue.

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8Lifes2Short(3879 comments)posted 3 years ago


"Its having it on public property that is the issue."

And exactly why is that a issue?

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9LtMacGowan(693 comments)posted 3 years ago

The Establishment clause? Which the courts have ruled time and time again that public venues are no place for religion.

Have an issue with it take it up with the Supreme Court

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10Lifes2Short(3879 comments)posted 3 years ago


""Which the courts have ruled time and time again that public venues are no place for religion.""

""Christmastime Nativity scenes had been erected in Palisades Park for decades. ""

So for "decades," this innocent Christmastime Nativity scenes were really pushing "religion?" Christmas Time is celebration of Jesus Christ's birth, whether you believe it not, it's just pretty decorations for people to enjoy. It's not forcing religion on anyone, if anything, I'm sure all the people, including little children, for "DECADES" went to this display and enjoyed this pretty scenery. But because of these "few" morons now no one can enjoy it.
What pitiful ignorant people we have in society today. When they get left behind, there the ones that are going to suffer and for good reason.

Merry Christmas! They will never stop me from saying it.

This guy in the picture must really hate running by these pretty scenes. I'm sure he is scarred for life now because religion was forced upon him.


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