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Youngstown, suburbs sealed Obama’s big victory

Published: Sun, November 11, 2012 @ 12:09 a.m.

By David Skolnick



Republican Mitt Romney failed to win one voting precinct in Youngstown and Austintown, and he captured only two of Boardman’s 47 precincts on his way to a 27.7-percentage-point defeat in Mahoning County.

An analysis by The Vindicator of raw precinct-by-precinct results in the county, a traditional Democratic stronghold, shows Youngstown provided 30.5 percent of President Barack Obama’s 74,346 votes in the county.

In 2008, Obama picked up 79,173 voters in the county. Overall, 128,914 of the county’s 178,270 registered voters cast ballots that year.

With the county’s population decline, there were 170,079 registered voters this year with 119,171 people casting votes in this election.

In the city, Obama, the incumbent Democrat, beat Romney 85.5 percent to 13.8 percent. The rest went to others on the ballot.

Obama won 63.1 percent of the vote in the county on his way to winning Ohio, a key battleground state, and the presidential election.

“We did more with less,” said county Democratic Party Chairman David Betras. “We had less [voters] go to the polls than in 2008, but we had a bigger plurality for the president and a higher voter percentage than in 2008. We did better in a very difficult political climate than four years ago. We focused on the strong Democratic areas of the county and got out the vote.”

Obama was exceptionally popular with voters in Youngstown, winning all 77 of the city’s precincts.

In the city’s 2nd Ward, Precinct H, on the East Side, Obama received 306 votes to 1 for Romney. Richard Duncan, an independent from Aurora who only had his name on the Ohio ballot for president, outperformed Romney in 2-H. Duncan, who received 0.23 of a percent of the statewide vote, received two votes in Youngstown 2-H.

The same precinct in 2008 gave Obama 280 votes compared with two votes for Republican John McCain. Ralph Nader, an independent who received 0.74 of a percent in the 2008 election, matched McCain in Youngstown 2-H with two votes.

In addition to 2-H, there were 12 other voter precincts in Youngstown in which Romney failed to get at least 10 votes.

Some of the results are brutal.

In Youngstown’s 1st Ward, Precinct B on the East Side, Obama beat Romney 451 to 4.

In that same precinct four years ago, Obama beat McCain 436 to 3.

“We took whatever assets we had and poured it into the city,” Betras said.

The Romney beat-downs were all over Youngstown.

He lost to Obama 295 to 3 in the 3rd Ward’s Precinct E on the North Side. Romney lost to Obama 303 to 8 in the 5th Ward’s Precinct M on the West Side, and 342 to 7 in the 6th Ward’s Precinct C on the South Side.

That wasn’t unexpected, said Bill Binning, Youngstown State University political science department chairman emeritus and a former county Republican Party chairman.

When Ronald Reagan ran in 1980 as a Republican in an election he easily won, he received no votes in a few Youngstown precincts, Binning said.

The closest Romney got in Youngstown was in Ward 5, Precinct B in Cornersburg. He got 36 percent of the vote there.

“We can safely say, ‘Youngstown is a Democratic city,’” said Paul Sracic, YSU’s political science department chairman. “Also, Mahoning County is remarkably consistent. The voter percentage for Democrats is about the same. Mahoning County voted the way it always does. Ohio is changing. Hamilton County is turning blue, and south of Mahoning County is turning red. There are changes throughout the state, except in northeast Ohio.”

Also, Romney failed to win a single precinct of the 40 in Austintown and won only 2 of Boardman’s 47 precincts. McCain had the same results in 2008, except there were 3 more precincts in Austintown and 4 more in Boardman four years ago.

“We wanted to keep Boardman kind of close, but I don’t think it was a complete surprise” Romney lost, said county Republican Party Chairman Mark Munroe.

Obama beat Romney by 4,215 in Boardman, 13,065 for Obama to 8,850 for Romney.

Obama swept all precincts in Struthers, Campbell, Coitsville, Jackson, Milton, Lowellville, New Middletown, Washingtonville and Craig Beach [the latter two only have one precinct each].

Obama won 10 of Poland Township’s 16 precincts, and won the township vote 3,977 to 3,734. He won 3 of Sebring’s four precincts, and the village’s vote 911 to 821.

Obama also won two of Poland village’s three precincts and the village by a vote of 806 to 799. In 2008, McCain beat Obama in the village by 22 votes.

“Poland Village and Canfield used to be reliable Republican areas,” Binning said. “Now it looks like it’s only Canfield.”

Canfield Township was good to Romney. He won seven of eight precincts and got 2,855 votes to 2,063 for Obama.

Romney won 7 of 10 precincts in the city of Canfield with Obama winning two and a 235-235 tie in the city’s Precinct 2.

But several of the results from Canfield city were close, and Romney only captured 52.9 percent of the city’s vote, beating Obama 2,456 to 2,167.

“We were hoping to do better in Canfield,” Munroe said.

As McCain did in 2008, Romney won in rural areas of the county with smaller populations than the cities and large suburbs such as Austintown and Boardman.

Romney won Beaver, Beloit, Goshen, Green, Smith and Springfield. He also won in Berlin, but only by two votes, 563 to 561; and in Ellsworth by 20 votes, 633 to 613.


1slappysmith(55 comments)posted 3 years ago

its comforting to know that there are intelligent voters in the mahoning valley, not just these pea brained ignoramus buffoons that post their right wing nonsense on every single political article the vindicator publishes.

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2saddad(647 comments)posted 3 years ago

LOL Well said slappy

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3lee(544 comments)posted 3 years ago

Standard lib form, call people names when he doesn't even know them

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4chuck_carney(499 comments)posted 3 years ago

Cuyahoga County sealed Obama's win. Mahoning Couty was merely the icing oin the cake

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5NoBS(2393 comments)posted 3 years ago

The question is, will this area's actions gain us anything? Will we receive even a small favor from the Prez? Or will we once again be taken for granted?

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6saddad(647 comments)posted 3 years ago

lee, He chose those words because he can read what is posted here. We do know them.

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7saddad(647 comments)posted 3 years ago

The good news is- We can see from the numbers that Republicans are not as stupid, racist, obstructionist or frightened as the brand has appeared nationally. The GOP will be stronger next time after they shed a few nuts and start acting like the loyal opposition instead of Franco's army.

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8JJ(28 comments)posted 3 years ago

Small favor? nothing owed nothing gained, see pre-election favors...GM bailout and NAMI ($60M) R&D facility in downtown YTOWN!

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9rhcpfan28(2 comments)posted 3 years ago

So is that why you voted for Obama? So that the valley gets some small favor?

That is as pathetic as the politicians who give out millions in federal contracts in exchange for a $5000 political donation. Selling one's soul for a few bucks. Shameful. But the Saul Alinksy's of the world knew that they could succeed in gaining the votes of the ignorant masses for peanuts.

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10peacelover(826 comments)posted 3 years ago

V & M Star Steel -- made possible with stimulus funds

Loan to GM which has come back strong and has kept Lordstown humming

Tech Belt Initiative to promote additive manufacturing innovation

Yo. Air Base continuing to expand

I know all you negative complainers like to carp about "what has the Dem party done for this area" . well here you go.

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11saddad(647 comments)posted 3 years ago

Dont get too crotchety there old dude-like you and me- they just want a job that will keep body and soul together

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12cambridge(3621 comments)posted 3 years ago

Early returns just in from Florida (five days after the election), Obama wins. Say what you want about the valley but at least they know how to count.

romney lost because he doesn't know how to run a campaign with a 400 million dollar bankroll, so he had no chance at knowing how to run the country.

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13Silence_Dogood(1558 comments)posted 3 years ago

Its comforting to know that there are intelligent voters in the mahoning valley, not just those pea brained ignoramus buffoons that post their LEFT wing nonsense on every single political article the vindicator publishes.

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14southsidedave(5169 comments)posted 3 years ago

I am happy it is all over and now the armchair experts can comment...ha ha.

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15isaac45(361 comments)posted 3 years ago

just as i said here before the election as the dominant righties here predicted victory just like their fellow national pundits, they are unrepresentative of their home, their state, and their country...hell, they are unrepresentative of the world and the entire universe

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16jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago


Obama’s complete transformation of America

President Obama has succeeded in transforming America. The constitutional republic is dead. A socialist empire has been born. This is the true meaning — and historical significance — of Tuesday’s election.

From the outset of his presidency, Mr. Obama vowed to be a “transformative” leader. His re-election shows that he has achieved his primary goal: erecting a European social democracy.

By any objective measure, Mr. Obama’s first term has been a colossal failure. His signature legislative achievements — the economic stimulus and Obamacare — are unpopular. Unemployment has remained chronically high. Economic growth is sputtering. The recovery is anemic. Inflation is rising. He has presided over multiple, consecutive trillion-dollar-plus budget deficits. He has amassed more than $5 trillion in debt. The national debt is more than $16 trillion — a staggering amount that threatens our economic security. We are sliding toward Greece and impending bankruptcy. Yet the electorate rewarded him with another term.

Why? The answer is simple and ominous: because more than half the population — 50 percent plus one — is dependent upon government benefits. For the past four years, the Obama administration has created a Franco-German welfare state whose sole purpose is to forge a majority political coalition wedded to the Democratic Party. The stimulus; the health care overhaul; the redirecting of financial resources to the inner cities; the explosion in the number of Americans on food stamps and welfare; the massive spending increases in public education, infrastructure and agriculture; the green-energy boondoggles; the bailouts of the auto industry; the contraceptive mandate; the federal funding of abortion; support for homosexual “marriage”; and pushing amnesty for illegal aliens — all of these measures directly bought off key liberal constituencies, such as unions, public-sector workers, environmentalists, blacks, Hispanics, feminists and the homosexual community.

In short, America has been fractured into two nations: the tax producers and the tax consumers, the givers and the takers, those who generate wealth and those who exploit it. Mr. Obama has peeled off the larger chunk. The productive classes are being harnessed into subsidizing the nonproductive elements. Statism and sex trump entrepreneurship and self-reliance.

Contrary to myth, liberalism is not a political ideology but a pseudo-religion

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17300(573 comments)posted 3 years ago

I'm sure you're right, toycannon. Just like 4 years ago when all theGOP claimed that by 2012 we'd have had all our guns confiscated, and the Islam would be our state religion.

Make sure to remind us in 2 years about being hard pressed to find Obama voters. Then when you're proven wrong, make sure to let everyone know your stupidity.

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18IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years ago

Looks like the Neo-Cons didn't get what they wanted (tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts). At least I'm getting what I want, 4 more years of getting to listen to FIXED NOISE IDIOTS lie, cry and moan about how Obama is a terrorist, communist, muslim and a socialist. I love listening to the righties CRY like babies!!!

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19LtMacGowan(693 comments)posted 3 years ago

Now we can all hope the GOP tears itself apart and implodes and the Democrats retake the house in 2014 so we can start really getting some legislation moving.

Obamacare is a good first step but its not the last step. We must keep pushing until we have a universal single payer system where all americans are covered and have access to the top quality healthcare equipment.

Im sure a few people will cry and post false data about how it takes 10 months to get a MRI in Canada, well you know what before I joined the Army I hadn't been to the doctor in years! I couldn't get a MRI ever because I didn't have $3,000 cash to pay for it. Even if I have to wait 2-3 months to get a MRI its better than NEVER getting one.

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20rumppy(119 comments)posted 3 years ago

toycannon,olddude,nobs, first of all he the president has not taken the valley for granted. Can't get enough of all your negative comments. Sore losers. Time for you all to get a life. Get over it. You lost. Your party, Romney was and is out of touch with society. Can you all see the majority has spoken. Go to bed, cry, wipe your tears, drank your cup of coffee and start all over again but this time join us. Don't let your racism.hatred, cloud your judgment.

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21jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago

Obama youth voters cheer for Karl Marx & socialism at election night rally.


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22DSquared(1569 comments)posted 3 years ago

I can hardly wait for the new Windmill and Solar panel factories to start hiring down on the river. Don't forget the all-new lineup of GM Electric clown cars coming soon to Lordstown. Let the good times roll!

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23paulydel(1510 comments)posted 3 years ago

It just goes to show you can't fix stupid. So much for wanting honest politicians and wanting to pay less taxes.

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24Rooster(79 comments)posted 3 years ago

People are voting state and national, like they used to do local. They vote for what going to be given to them. That used to be your local vote. State and National votes were more economy and foreign policy. Democrats figured out something important, and that is that they can make the national vote just like the local vote - campaign on what voters want to have given to them. Tax the other guy - give me the benefits. Works local, now it works national. Even states like California had a special vote - did folks want to tighten their belt or did they want to raise taxes? Voted to raise taxes, because most of them getting the goods aren't affected at all by raised taxes. Doesn't get any more local than Youngstown's tax rate - sure raise the taxes, give us those tax breaks, that free garbage pickup, etc., etc.., raising taxes doesn't affect the beneficiaries. These country's following downtown Youngstown vote trends to raise the taxes on the other guy and run off business, but give benefits to the voter who isn't paying for any of it.

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25Rooster(79 comments)posted 3 years ago

People are voting state and national, like they used to do local. They vote for what going to be given to them. That used to be your local vote. State and National votes were more economy and foreign policy. Democrats figured out something important, and that is that they can make the national vote just like the local vote - campaign on what voters want to have given to them. Tax the other guy - give me the benefits. Works local, now it works national. Even states like California had a special vote - did folks want to tighten their belt or did they want to raise taxes? Voted to raise taxes, because most of them getting the goods aren't affected at all by raised taxes. Doesn't get any more local than Youngstown's tax rate - sure raise the taxes, give us those property tax breaks, that free garbage pickup, etc., etc.., raising taxes doesn't affect the beneficiaries voting for it. This country's following downtown Youngstown vote trends - raise the taxes on the other guy and run off business, but give benefits to the voter who isn't paying for any of it. Let's make the whole country just like downtown Youngstown raising city income tax rates on any workers who haven't gotten out yet.

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26youngspartanrepublican(92 comments)posted 3 years ago

Buried in all the exit polls are that WHITE millenials (age 18-29) broke for Romney 51-44. There is hope in this country.

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27IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years ago

Buried in the sand is the head of the Neo-Cons. 29% of the Latino vote! There is NO shot when your message to Latinos is self-deportation and building walls. I'm surprised the repoobs got over 20%.


HILLARY 2016!!!

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28andersonathan(682 comments)posted 3 years ago

Looks likes Youngstown is the new Philadelphia. According to voters.

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29jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago

IM get a job.

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30jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago

Hey LtMac, they're going to add 35 MILLION people to Obamacare, and no new DRS. Also, they will add 16,000 IRS agents to oversee the plan. When you get up in years, they will tell you "you are too old for an MRI."

Romney care in Mass. was 70 pages long. Obamacare is 2100 pages long.

Get a job, then you won't have to worry about an MRI.

'nuff said.

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31andersonathan(682 comments)posted 3 years ago


Ohio's Link to secede.

Even Governor Perry [R] Texas does not support the idea. El Paso has a petition to secede from Texas. And this happens every 4 years just not on this big of scale.

Get out the vote did their job well stopped at my neighbors house picked up 4 votes they called two daughters who came over with a friend and picked up 3 more votes left the family 4 cell phones that was distributed by another person separate from voting. Gave their kid a part time job getting petitions signed. Nice thing about it they explained every candidate, every issue, and showed them how to vote for that particular person or issue. So tell me the ratio would be 7-1 for the D's me being the [r] and I know the neighbors and the last election very proud to have a black-man in office even though we did not vote. Voting has changed over the last 8 years. like it or not 20 million in debt 20% unemployment and California floating in the Pacific Obama could win a third term with a ground game like this in the cities nation wide and the rural vote will never catch up. Voter reform is needed in a big way and I for one hate the PAC groups from both sides. And Willard has been running for Pres since who knows when collecting money from everyone

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32jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago

Hey frato, the GOP had a very worthy opponet in the presidential race. But you tell me how do you battle a SANTA CLAUS president. There are more people on the dole than anytime in our history. Our president is a socialist. Remember during the the presidential race, Obama advertised, on radio, for more people to apply for welfare. Can you imagine that?

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33jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago

This is why unions will become extinct in the next 25 - 30 yrs.

Hostess said the company is unprofitable under its current cost structure, in large part because of union wages and pension costs. Rayburn said in a statement on the company website that all employees will eventually lose their jobs, "some sooner than others."

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.comhttp://www.newsmax.com/Headline/hoste...

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34uselesseater(229 comments)posted 3 years ago


"they are unrepresentative of their home, their state, and their country"

That's rubbish.

A majority in the voting instance of electing Obama to his second term, again is a majority of a SMALL minority.

There were 121.7 million votes cast in the presidential election that went to Obama and Romney.

So 38.5% of the US population voted for either candidate. Of this 38.5%, 50.6% voted for Obama.

MEANING: 19.48% of the US population voted for Obama. Is 19.48% of anything a majority? Ever?

The other 80.51% of the population didn't vote for Obama.

If you want something else to chomp on, look at the US awash in voting Republican red:
[see: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/...

select: County results on the left and look at the US awash in RED.

Clearly, the country is divided amongst all sorts of lines. Clear that city freeloaders continue to vote the D line. You could run Mao, Stalin and Hitler on the ticket and folks would just vote straight D.

Yep, inner city Youngstown voting totals surely overlap on mooch factor and race which heavily votes Obama, cause he's one of us and he gives free stuff out (or so they think).

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35IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years ago

Only 63 shopping days left until Obama's 2nd Inauguration!!

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36HSG(178 comments)posted 3 years ago

To nacho Cheese: your lack of knowledge relative to the history of this state would be funny if it were not so pathetic.

The Connecticut Western Reserve IS, repeat IS, the area you are describing!

If you're willing to throw in 2 US Senators, i'd say okay to your kick-out proposal.

If you can do the research, compare the potential household incomes in the 2 Ohio's, then tell me which one you'd rather live in.

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37IslandMike(764 comments)posted 3 years ago


Your post is almost funny. Keyword: almost.

Obama won, get over it!! Quit crying and move forward, oops, did I say "FORWARD?"

The PEOPLE have spoken and what they said is............................................

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38jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago

I came across a new word:


A system of Govt where the least capable of producing, & when the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods & services paid for by the confiscated wealth & a diminishing number of producers.

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39jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago

Hey islandmike, when are you going to get a job.

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40jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago


Russian news outlet PRAVDA labels Obama a "COMMUNIST" in scathing oped.

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41jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago

This excerpt from Pravda:

These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties, and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more than a whimper to their masters.
Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motors) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self-given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.
So it should be no surprise that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK 's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, and so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

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42jojuggie(1621 comments)posted 3 years ago

NEUROLOGISTS ARE about to feel the sting of the Affordable Care Act. Beginning Jan. 1, Medicare will be paying them less for electrodiagnostic procedures used in identifying and treating a wide range of nerve and muscle disorders. Reimbursement rates for some tests will be slashed by more than 50 percent, and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services estimates that payments to neurologists overall will shrink by 7 percent next year.

Medicare's cuts will be implemented by changing the way fees for the diagnostic procedures are calculated. Instead of reimbursing neurologists for each nerve analyzed, the new billing codes will henceforth bundle multiple nerve-conduction tests into a single fee. The Obama administration claims that under the current system Medicare has been paying too much for neurologists' overhead costs. But the American Academy of Neurology, in an advisory to its members, warns that the cuts will devastate "neurology practices large and small, many of which rely on these services to meet their bottom line." Patients will be hurt as well: As Medicare squeezes neurologists, seniors' access to neurological care will dwindle.

Might as well get used to this. With a long-term unfunded liability of $38 trillion, Medicare will go broke if it isn't fixed, and compelling providers to accept lower fees is how ObamaCare proposes to fix it. Yet if government technocrats could keep health-care affordable by paying doctors and hospitals predetermined fees for each service they provide, Medicare wouldn't be going broke in the first place. When it turns out once again that Medicare's budget can't be tamed through stringent price controls, regulators will inevitably look for other ways to ration health care.

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