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After hard-fought win, Obama vows 'best is yet to come'



Published: Wed, November 7, 2012 @ 2:44 a.m.

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President Barack Obama waves as he walks on stage with first lady Michelle Obama and daughters Malia and Sasha at his election night party Wednesday night in Chicago after defeating Republican challenger former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

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WASHINGTON (AP)

President Barack Obama rolled to re-election Tuesday night, vanquishing former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney despite a weak economy that plagued his first term and put a crimp in the middle class dreams of millions. In victory, he confidently promised better days ahead.

Obama spoke to thousands of cheering supporters in his hometown of Chicago, praising Romney and declaring his optimism for the next four years. "While our road has been hard, though our journey has been long, we have picked ourselves up, we have fought our way back and we know in our hearts that for the United States of America, the best is yet to come," he said.

Romney made his own graceful concession speech before a disappointed crowd in Boston. He summoned all Americans to pray for Obama and urged the night's political winners to put partisan bickering aside and "reach across the aisle" to tackle the nation's problems.

Still, after the costliest — and one of the nastiest — campaigns in history, divided government was alive and well.

Democrats retained control of the Senate with surprising ease.

Republicans did the same in the House, ensuring that Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, Obama's partner in unsuccessful deficit talks, would reclaim his seat at the bargaining table.

At Obama headquarters in Chicago, a huge crowd gathered waving small American flags and cheering. Supporters hugged each other, danced and pumped their fists in the air. Excited crowds also gathered in New York's Times Square, at Faneuil Hall in Boston and near the White House in Washington, drivers joyfully honking as they passed by.

With returns from 84 percent of the nation's precincts, Obama had 53.7 million, 49.6 percent of the popular vote. Romney had 53 million, or 48.9 percent.

The president's laserlike focus on the battleground states allowed him to run up a 303-206 margin in the competition for the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, the count that mattered most. Remarkably, given the sour economy, he lost only two states that he captured in 2008, Indiana and North Carolina.

Florida, another Obama state four years ago, remained too close to call.

The election emerged as a choice between two very different visions of government — whether it occupies a major, front-row place in American lives or is in the background as a less-obtrusive facilitator for private enterprise and entrepreneurship.

The economy was rated the top issue by about 60 percent of voters surveyed as they left their polling places. But more said former President George W. Bush bore responsibility for current circumstances than Obama did after nearly four years in office.

That boded well for the president, who had worked to turn the election into a choice between his proposals and Romney's, rather than a simple referendum on the economy during his time in the White House.

Unemployment stood at 7.9 percent on Election Day, higher than when he took office. And despite signs of progress, the economy is still struggling after the worst recession in history.

Obama captured Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Virginia, New Hampshire, Colorado and Nevada, seven of the nine states where the rivals and their allies poured nearly $1 billion into dueling television commercials.

Romney won North Carolina among the battleground states.

Florida was too close to call, Obama leading narrowly in a state where there were still long lines of voters at some polling places long after the appointed closing time.

Romney, who grew wealthy in business and ran the 2002 Olympic Games in Salt Lake City before entering politics, spoke only briefly to supporters, some of whom wept.

"I so wish that I had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction," he said. "But the nation chose another leader and so Ann and I join with you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation."

Moments later, Obama stepped before a far different crowd hundreds of miles away.

"Tonight you voted for action, not politics as usual," he said. He pledged to work with leaders of both parties to help the nation complete its recovery from the worst recession since the Great Depression.

By any description, the list of challenges is daunting — high unemployment, a slow-growth economy, soaring deficits, a national debt at unsustainable. To say nothing of the threat of a nuclear Iran and the menace of al-Qaida and other terrorist groups more than a decade after the attacks of Sept., 11, 2001.

There was no doubt about what drove voters to one candidate or the other.

About 4 in 10 said the economy is on the mend, but more than that said it was stagnant or getting worse more than four years after the near-collapse of 2008. The survey was conducted for The Associated Press and a group of television networks.

In the battle for the Senate, Elizabeth Warren turned Republican Scott Brown out of office in Massachusetts, and Rep. Joe Donnelly captured a seat from GOP hands in Indiana.

Deb Fischer picked up a seat for Republicans in Nebraska, defeating former Sen. Bob Kerrey.

In Maine, independent former Gov. Angus King was elected to succeed retiring GOP Sen. Olympia Snowe. He has not yet said which party he will side with, but Republicans attacked him in television advertising during the race, and Democrats rushed to his cause.

In the presidential race, Obama won in the reliably Democratic Northeast and West Coast. Pennsylvania was his, too, despite two late campaign stops by Romney.

Romney won most of the South as well as much of the Rocky Mountain West and Farm Belt.

The president was in Chicago as he awaited the voters' verdict on his four years in office. He told reporters he had a concession speech as well as victory remarks prepared. He congratulated Romney on a spirited campaign. "I know his supporters are just as engaged, just as enthusiastic and working just as hard today" as Obama's own, he added.

Romney reciprocated, congratulating the man whom he had campaigned against for more than a year.

Earlier, he raced to Ohio and Pennsylvania for Election Day campaigning and projected confidence as he flew home to Massachusetts. "We fought to the very end, and I think that's why we'll be successful," he said, adding that he had finished writing a speech anticipating victory but nothing if the election went to his rival.

But the mood soured among the Republican high command as the votes came in and Obama ground out a lead in critical states.

Like Obama, Vice President Joe Biden was in Chicago as he waited to find out if he was in line for a second term. Republican running mate Paul Ryan was with Romney in Boston, although he kept one eye on his re-election campaign for a House seat in Wisconsin, just in case. He won re-election to Congress.

The long campaign's cost soared into the billions, much of it spent on negative ads, some harshly so.

In a months-long general election ad war that cost nearly $1 billion, Romney and Republican groups spent more than $550 million and Obama and his allies $381 million, according to organizations that track advertising.

According to the exit poll, 53 percent of voters said Obama was more in touch with people like them, compared to 43 percent for Romney.

About 60 percent said taxes should be increased, taking sides on an issue that divided the president and Romney. Obama wants to let taxes rise on upper incomes, while Romney does not.

Other than the battlegrounds, big states were virtually ignored in the final months of the campaign. Romney wrote off New York, Illinois and California, while Obama made no attempt to carry Texas, much of the South or the Rocky Mountain region other than Colorado.

There were 33 Senate seats on the ballot, 23 of them defended by Democrats and the rest by Republicans.

Democratic Rep. Chris Murphy, a Democrat, won a Connecticut seat long held by Sen. Joe Lieberman, retiring after a career that included a vice presidential spot on Al Gore's ticket in 2000. It was Republican Linda McMahon's second defeat in two tries, at a personal cost of $92 million.

The GOP needed a gain of three for a majority if Romney won, and four if Obama was re-elected. Neither Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada nor GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky was on the ballot, but each had high stakes in the outcome.

All 435 House seats were on the ballot, including five where one lawmaker ran against another as a result of once-a-decade redistricting to take population shifts into account. Democrats needed to pick up 25 seats to gain the majority they lost two years ago.

House Speaker Boehner, R-Ohio, raised millions to finance get-out-the-vote operations in states without a robust presidential campaign, New York, Illinois and California among them. His goal was to minimize any losses, or possibly even gain ground, no matter Romney's fate. House Democratic leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California campaigned aggressively, as well, and faced an uncertain political future after her party failed to win control.

In gubernatorial races, Republicans picked up North Carolina, where Pat McCrory won easily. The incumbent, Democratic Gov. Bev Purdue, did not seek re-election.

In a campaign that traversed contested Republican primaries last winter and spring, a pair of political conventions this summer and three presidential debates, Obama, Romney, Biden and Ryan spoke at hundreds of rallies, were serenaded by Bruce Springstein and Meat Loaf and washed down hamburgers, pizza, barbecue and burrito bowls.

Obama was elected the first black president in 2008, and four years later, Romney became the first Mormon to appear on a general election ballot. Yet one man's race and the other's religion were never major factors in this year's campaign for the White House, a race dominated from the outset by the economy.

Over and over, Obama said that during his term the nation had begun to recover from the worst recession since the Great Depression. While he conceded progress had been slow, he accused Romney of offering recycled Republican policies that have helped the wealthy and harmed the middle class in the past and would do so again.

Romney countered that a second Obama term could mean a repeat recession in a country where economic growth has been weak and unemployment is worse now than when the president was inaugurated. A wealthy former businessman, he claimed the knowledge and the skills to put in place policies that would make the economy healthy again.

In a race where the two men disagreed often, one of the principal fault lines was over taxes. Obama campaigned for the renewal of income tax cuts set to expire on Dec. 31 at all income levels except above $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples.

Romney said no one's taxes should go up in uncertain economic times. In addition, he proposed a 20 percent cut across the board in income tax rates but said he would end or curtail a variety of tax breaks to make sure federal deficits didn't rise.

The differences over taxes, the economy, Medicare, abortion and more were expressed in intensely negative advertising.

Obama launched first, shortly after Romney dispatched his Republican foes in his quest for the party nomination.

One memorable commercial showed Romney singing an off-key rendition of "America The Beautiful." Pictures and signs scrolled by saying that his companies had shipped jobs to Mexico and China, that Massachusetts state jobs had gone to India while he was governor and that he has personal investments in Switzerland, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.

Romney spent less on advertising than Obama. A collection of outside groups made up the difference, some of them operating under rules that allowed donors to remain anonymous. Most of the ads were of the attack variety. But the Republican National Committee relied on one that had a far softer touch, and seemed aimed at voters who had been drawn to the excitement caused by Obama's first campaign. It referred to a growing national debt and unemployment, then said, "He tried. You tried. It's OK to make a change."

More than 30 million voters cast early ballots in nearly three dozen states, a reflection of the growing appeal of getting a jump on the traditional Election Day.


Comments

1palmer16121(111 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Now...which should happen first...tax code reform, or the Surpreme Court repealing People United? Seriously, I hope the congress deals with each other in a civil minute. I also hope that we citizens do the same. There's way to much division and name calling.

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2oldskool(95 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Good luck America...
Good luck World...
Good luck Youngstown...
Good luck GM...
Good luck Obamacare...
Good luck Obamaphone...
Good luck Libya...
Good luck FELLOW SOLDIERS...
Good luck Social Security...
Good luck Middle Class...

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3whitesabbath(738 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Would be nice Palmer , Big Brother has what it wants, its population fighting with themselves instead of Uniting as a people.

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4WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

My congratulations to all my liberal democrat friends and foes on this victory. The people have spoken and though we conservatives may disagree I hope we all see it is time now to come together, unite behind our President and work for the success of our Country. I am looking forward to a bright future and wish the President all the best and hopes for a better tomorrow. Cheers and congratulations on a hard-fought victory!

God bless the United States of America

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5WhatRUAfraidOf(85 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Well-said, William Swinger. Would that Congress would be as magnanimous.

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6paulparks(235 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

WilliamSinger,

What a dreamer you are! We actually had a chance to elect a decent, moral person and we elected Mr. Abortion.

Four more years of depravity!

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7JS(460 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Four more years of economic winter for the nation. Our founding fathers could never have envisioned such a loss of direction.

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8greene(167 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Sung to Dion’s Abraham, Martin & John

Has anybody here seen my old friend Abraham?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
You know, I just looked around and he's gone.

Anybody here seen my old friend John?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
I just looked around and he's gone.

Anybody here seen my old friend Martin?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good they die young.
I just looked 'round and he's gone.

Don’t you see the one we have been waiting for is here
Don’t you love the things Obama will create?
He will try to find some good in you and me
And then we'll be free
Yes today is the day, yes today, we can ...

Now my savior Obama is here
Can you tell me where to kneel?
I thought I saw him leading up over the hill,
In front of Abraham, Martin and John…

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9blutarsky(25 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

i cant believe how dumb and lazy the x-greatest country in the world has become. last night people voted for only selfish reasons and not for love of country. we are on only one track which is that of spain or greece. if any one still believes in God they better start praying now.

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10Georgio(25 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

LORD help us!

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11Lifes2Short(3867 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Thank GOD it's over!!!

Next 4 years should be interesting.....

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12DwightK(1179 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

I really do expect the president and congress to get something done now. Everyone thinking about any kind of future office should understand that they must have a record to run on. Simply saying you oppose the other party will not be enough. Future candidates will have to list their accomplishments or lose in the primaries. Hopefully this means congress gets some real work done.

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13kensgirl(540 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

What about the trillion dollar debt my kids are inheriting? What happened in Libya with our ambassador? No one mentions THAT? Do they even know??? Let's be honest. Blacks voted for Obama because he was black. I don't vote on color. I vote on the man. We are truly a house divided. Not since the civil war have we been at each other's throats (literally). I want illegal aliens gone. My family were immigrants but they came over legally. They worked hard and didn't ask for handouts. Everyone thinks they're entitled now. I am so sad for our future generations. The world has gone crazy. No morals, no values and it's just getting worse every day. Obama is only part of the problem. I hope both sides do pull together. We need to whatever our party affiliation is. Otherwise we will get eaten up by other countries who truly are after our blood. Good luck Mr. President and God bless us every one.

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14natureman(66 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The best man for the job won. The people have spoken and it is time for us to put aside our differences and work together for the betterment of all. Congratulations President Obama. We sincerely hope for the best in the coming four years!

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15busyman(239 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The Republicans need to watch the Christmas Carol this year if they want to have a future to compete in the political arena. The people won this election. Are there no prisons, are there no poor houses, you get the drift. Talk about the Republican arogance. They totally forgot about the other 50 percent of the citizens that are not White. We are a country of many different groups, some one needs to tell the GOP.

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16commoncitizen(949 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

WOW, who woul;d have thought(besides the union people)!!! But it happened and the Country should move forward, BUT that doesn't mean that the Republicans just "cave in" to all of the whims of the Dems. Someone has to stand up for ALL of the people NOT a select few.

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17whybother(5 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

May our Lord have mercy on us.

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18JoeFromHubbard(875 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Apparently Romney was wrong about 47 %.

The election results indicate that the number is much higher.

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19georgejeanie(731 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Busy man, don't forget who built this great country. Now all I see is a Democratic party which wants to give handouts to ev eryone, including the middle class, so they become more and more dependent on these hand outs so they vote fpr the Democrat. All sounds good until we become a country like Greece ad Spain. By then it will be too late and you will see anarchy in the streets of the "new USA",

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20fcb(313 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

It struck me funny when I saw the crowd in Chicago waiting to see the President. Whites,blacks,people from all walks of life,all dressed in normal street clothes waving flags and dancing. Then I saw the crowd in Boston where they were waiting for Romney to give a victory speech. All whites,men dressed in suits,women dressed in formal dresses like they were going to a wedding. all of them with glasses in their hands drinking. What that said to me was two different type of people,rich and normal. This country was built on the hard working,normal people,not people who were born with the silver spoon in their mouth. I hope and pray the the Republican congress will start trying to work together with every one including the President and help this country move forward. Until they do,and loose that "Holier than Thou" attitude they will never have a Republican President. Mitt Romney and the Republicans thought that they could say any thing and that the middle class was so stupid that we would believe any thing they said.Well they were mistaken!!

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21gdog4766(1254 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Hey Paul Parks when that skank Coulter used the R word to describe Obama, I think it really applies to you. Go away!

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22GTX66(331 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The people in this country are as dumb as dog do do! Obama bought the election with the GM bailout. Ford did not need one. Maybe they have a better idea. Obama=Hardworking yada , yada-- is BS. He never had a real job in his life.

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23seinfried(19 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

A great day for the health care bill, and for those with preexisting conditions..

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24blutarsky(25 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

hey hellabb, you mean obama's dad wasn't around? hard to believe.

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25georgejeanie(731 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

I see Wall Street is really impressed with the Obama reelection. You think this is bad wait until next year when this guy has time to work his socialist magic.

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26AnotherAverageCitizen(1172 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

I hope for the better of the USA that the Congress and President can work together. It will take both to give in some. The excess spending has got to stop.

Instead of the Social Security, where employess pay 4.2 now and was 6.2, can't they work it out where it increases to 6.2. Make employess pay 4.7 in 2013, 5.7 in 2014 and back to 6.2 in 2015. That way it is not a Big decreases in bring home pay all at once.

They MUST work together and smarter, not harder.

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27blutarsky(25 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

brains, ambition and affirmative action. you don't think he went ivy on his grades do you? well, you probably do. don't be so angry though, your welfare and free cell phone are safe for 4 more years. community organizer to the rescue!

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28James_S(259 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Justice Roberts- "Obamacare's a tax..."

Expect income tax to equal that of Canada.

Everybody thinks Canada has free healthcare.

But facts are facts and they pay a 52% income tax up there so that their "free" healthcare is properly funded.

I have relatives in Canada who informed me of this. That's just the way it is folks.

Be prepared- a 52% income tax is around the corner just waiting to fund Obamacare.

"Don't be fooled..."

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29walter_sobchak(1750 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

AAC,
I, too, hope for a better America but it is going to take a meeting of the minds which I'm not sure is going to happen. Social Security and Medicare are on track to bankrupt the Treasury; a long-term solution is needed. But, the rigid thinking has to be abandoned or the republic is doomed. The "no new tax" pledge these guys made with Grover Nordquist is absurd. Those at the very top can certainly pay a few percent more even though it won't have much of an effect other than symbolic. The biggest problem was that Obama's stimulus package was targeted to specific people and industries and did little to expand the workforce. Trillions of dollars with little to show for it. His only option now is to try another stimulus that will have to be paid for by borrowing or printing new money. Any way you cut it, inflation is certainly around the corner.

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30franc004(71 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

@Blutarsky,
The cell phone program was put in place by Bush, not Obama.

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31LtMacGowan(622 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The people have spoken. So don't go away mad, just go away.

Obama 4 more years!!

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32JS(460 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

When Obama says that there is more to come he means that you aint seen nothing yet! Perhaps this time around he will destroy the electrical grid that serves Washington DC. Will solar panels be enough to run the White House?

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33cambridge(2918 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

OOPS!

teabaggers, don't be sad, michele bachmann and rick perry both said they are gong to study up and run again next year. Maybe they could be running mates. Now that would be a ticket.

bachmann/perry 2013!

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34IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Bachmann and Palin
or
Palin and Bachmann?

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35IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Obama's transcripts and birth certificate are in the pages of Mitt-Flopper's tax returns.

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36IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

THANK YOU PRESIDENT W. BUSH!!
Bush nominated Chief Justice Roberts!!

THANK YOU GOVERNOR CHRISTIE!!!
Christie swung it Obama's way in the final week of the election!!

THANK YOU NEWT GINGRICH!!!
Gingrich said Romney was NOT QUALIFIED to be President!

THANK YOU TEA PARTY!!!
If it weren't for the Tea Party, the Senate would be in the hands of the Repoobs.

THANK YOU FIXED NOISE NETWORK!!
28% of people surveyed said they TRUST FIXED NOISE NETWORK!!!

THANK YOU AGAIN TEA PARTY!!!
Only 39% of WHITE PEOPLE voted for Obama!!!
You alienated ALL demographics that aren't WHITE. Slogans like, "Lets Take Our Country Back" tend to do that. African-Americans, Latinos, Gays & Lesbians vote (whether you like it or not). Keep pushing to the right.

THANK YOU MITT-FLOPPER!!!
No one knew where you stood and your 47% comment was the icing on the cake!!

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37redvert(2007 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

When we vote, we get what we deserve!

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38IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

@315,

C'mon man!! He was polishing the pots and pans, he knows how important sparkling culinary collections are to the homeless.

HILLARY 2016

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39blutarsky(25 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

come on hochie, w's grades were released and were better than john kerrys or don't you remember. you y-town hood rats make me laugh. you really think life in the hood is where its at. 315 glenwood av. is poverty central, not to mention stupid central. now that i think of it all of y-town is poverty and stupid central. nice school system and murder rate.

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40Bill1776(20 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

All these things must come to past for the second coming of the Lord and the final battle of Armageddon.

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41blutarsky(25 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

yo baby, easy wit dat. i knows one of you baby daddys and he would't like you spouting like you is. you knows about as much about gpa'sis as i knows about birthin childs.

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42IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

According to an article in the Wall Street Journal, Obama was not well-known among classmates after he transferred to Columbia University from Occidental College in the early 1980s. The article quotes a former roommate who states that Obama’s performance improved after he stopped taking drugs (which Obama has admitted to openly). Since Obama did not graduate with honors, that means his GPA was between a 2.0 and a 3.3 — although, since he was admitted to Harvard Law School, it’s hard to imagine his GPA was much lower than a 3.3.

Obama graduated from Columbia in 1983 with a degree in political science. He specialized in international relations.

Law school was another story for Obama. He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School (the second highest honor available) in 1991. He also was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, a very prestigious honor.

Obama WINS Repoobs LOSE (again)

HILLARY 2016!!!

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43commoncitizen(949 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

z123, sounds like you want the "old people" to stop collecting S.S. so you can free load more from the people that DID earn their S.S. Don't worry your savior will provide for you.

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44rumppy(106 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Kensgirl, or whatever your names is. You have to be ignorant and racist. Black people voted for President Obama because he is black? No because he is qualified. No other reason. Give me a break. Sounds like you have your head in the sand.

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45whitesabbath(738 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Big Brother has what it wants, its population fighting with themselves instead of Uniting as a people !!!

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4676Ytown(1150 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.

From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.

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47southsidedave(4709 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The election is over and people still want to debate...never-ending rhetoric.

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4876Ytown(1150 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

"every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship"

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49IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Tonight on FIXED NOISE NETWORK

HANNITY swallows his tongue

RUPERT MURDOCK fires the entire staff.

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50IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

TOP 10 LIST for Obama's 2nd Term

1. Gets the Flag of Kenya tatood to his head.
2. Has Rapper Common play at his second inauguration.
3. Changes his last name to Mohammed
4. Includes Free Kleenex Tissues in the ObamaCare program for crying Repoobs.
5. Gets a Dental Program in place, the Repoobs need it because they just got their teeth kicked in.
6. Paints the White House Black.
7. Names Bill Ayers to head The Department of Homeland Security.
8. Has a Koran place on the nightstand in the Lincoln Bedroom.
9. Has The Lincoln Bedroom renamed The Sarah Palin and Glen Rice Love Shack.
10. Reaches accross the aisle by legalizing Oxycontin. This should make Rush Limpdick very happy

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51IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

2016 Hillary Clinton
2020 Hillary Clinton

Repoobs better hope to God she decides not to run. Could you think of a worse outcome for the repoob party? They'll be soundly beaten by the two things they hate most in this world:

1) a minority
2) a woman

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52JoeFromHubbard(875 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

@ IslandMike:
the two things
1) a minority
2) a woman

Speaking of Hilary Clinton, a minority and a woman?

That is how you posed the point.

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53uselesseater(229 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

F' both of the clowns who ran. They should have been running mates. Same crap out of both of them.

Republicans get what they deserve running the same empty suits. Reruns. Maybe they'll think twice about how they treated Rep. Paul and his delegates at the Convention?

Oh the choices, such great choices. Can't let 3rd party folks in the debates or even fairly on the ballot.

Do I pick Opium or do I pick crack cocaine? Which is the lesser evil?

More opium for the dumb masses.

I am surprised by the results. Really was close on popular vote and all votes still haven't been totaled. Not a convincing win or landslide. Very much was 2008 result with some loses by Obama. Two states and a bunch of votes.

Want to know how much confidence one big segment of business has in Obama?

"The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 313 points, or 2.4%, logging its worst daily decline since November 2011."

I'd say we are in for four more years of crushing decline.

Ask Japan about their decade of stagnation and how they propped their banks up with federal dollars. They are on their second or third decade of that. STAGNATION.

Guess what? The US has been doing the same since around 1997-8. Dot com bubble pummel, then September 11, then Bush phony wars, then Obama's first term.

We aren't going to catch any serious relief until next election in 2016.

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54wcid(26 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

KENSGIRL posted "Blacks voted for Obama because he was black"

This is the most RACIST stupid remark that irritates me to DEATH! First off, Ken Blackwell was a black man running for GOVERNOR in Cleveland Ohio, and who got elected? Ted Strickland a WHITE person. Look at what happened to Allan west in Florida last night! He's BLACK and lost to a white man! By saying that WE vote on color you are implying that we are INCAPABLE of understanding politics! I'm VERY offended by your remark! Obviously you live in a shell. I VOTED against a man who LIED and flip flopped

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55wcid(26 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Awwwee, look at these predictions again...I remembered the idiot neo-cons claiming that Obama was going to TAKE their guns once he's elected. Did that happen? NOPE! Now people are coming up with a NEW threat, increased taxes. *twiddle thumbs* yeah ok and Santa Claus delivers toys to EVERY child in the world in one night.

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56IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Neo-Cons are crying today. some have threatened to move to Canada, to which I say GOOD RIDDANCE!!

HILLARY 2016!!!

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57kurtw(766 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The first post by Bill Swinger- "Let's all unite and hope for a bright future..." Give me a Break!

There's a word for that kind of thinking- it's called to be "pollyannish"- which means to be absurdly optimistic in the face of devastating facts.

How the hell can we possibly expect a "bright future" when our National Debt just exceeded the level of our GNP and we have in the White House someone pledged (with his policies) to carry that debt "onward and upward".

How can anyone possibly be optimistic in face of those facts.

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58Lifes2Short(3867 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

rumpy and wcid

"""KENSGIRL posted "Blacks voted for Obama because he was black""""

"Black people voted for President Obama because he is black? No because he is qualified. No other reason. "

"This is the most RACIST stupid remark that irritates me to DEATH!"

Your sadly mistaken, I know plenty of blacks that voted for Obama because he's black. They admit it, they don't deny it, they didn't want the rich white dude to win. Their exact words.
When I went to vote, a black guy and his girlfriend came out, waving there hands and yelling, no white guy in the white house anymore, and kept saying it, till his mother with a walker, told him "boy shut up and go get the car". That was priceless.

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59kurtw(766 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

You know, some of the people in this forum defending Obama and Liberals in general are real morons. Don't you know it all comes down to Economics- the rest is just fancy language, sophistry, and empty rhetoric.

The economic reality is that our National Debt (for the first time ever) just exceeded our entire Gross National Product. Do You Know What That Means?

It means that pretty soon Washington, DC and Athens Greece will be one and the same thing. That's the direction we are moving in thanks to Barack and his friends.

Granted, Bush wasn't much of a help. He started us in the direction, but Obama (and his ultra-left friends) is the one that really pushed us in the direction of complete insolvency.

Oh, I Know the Vindy Endorsed Obama- but I guess they know where their Bread is Buttered: you don't sign up subscribers in an overwhelmingly Democratic Area by dissing the "Anointed One". Well, I guess there are some pretty good daily papers in Athens, Greece, too.

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60kurtw(766 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

The problem with the Republicans is that they don't understand who they are dealing with. The Democrat Party they are facing today is not the Democratic Party of Harry Truman or JFK- one that was reasonably centrist and actually committed to working people -rather the people in charge today- Obama, Harry Reid, Pelosi, et. al., are hard-core leftists- committed Marxists- and the only way to confront them is with someone equally committed to Conservative Principles.

You don't do it with wimps and ahistorical nincompoops like John McCain and Mitt Romney- the Dems (read Marxists) take people like these and eat them for lunch as the last two Presidential Elections have illustrated.

You need someone with a "fire in his belly". Newt Gingrich I think would have been good- he had passion and he knew history.

Speaking of History: Look up what Vlad Lenin was able to do with Alexander Kerensky in 1917 during the Russian Revolution. You had "nice guy" Kerensky (Romney) facing committed Marxist Lenin (Obama)- and guess who won?

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61kurtw(766 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Re: wcid- bent out of shape because someone said Blacks voted for Obama because of his Race.

What's there to get upset about? That's the way people are. The country is full of graying, stoop-shouldered Irish-Americans who voted for JFK simply because of their shared background. If you tried to tell them that JFK was grossly overrated and in many ways a big prick (chronic womanizer somewhat of a racist, spoiled rich boy, etc. really, a minor leaguer, except for Daddy's Money) - watch out man- It's a Fighting Mick, you'll be up against!

No different for African-Americans. I know if I were Black and I knew I had a chance to vote for the first person of my race to be President of the United States- I would bend over backwards, to find every virtue in that man and bury every flaw. That's the way people are.

Too bad that our first Black President couldn't have been someone of the caliber of Herman Cain or Condeleeza Rice.

Now, Condy Rice, in 2008 I would have supported her in a heart beat: First Black President and First Woman in the White House not a First Lady. Pretty Good. Hard to Beat.

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62oldskool(95 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Befor you get all whiney on me
I just had to do it!
I have and always will do my part to make this country the best it can be.
Now with that being said, political education is needed for every election so start now start documenting facts (true ones) for the 2016 election (unless Obama changes the 2 term restriction) so that if the Vinicator is not bankrupted by then we can all have some good blog debates!

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63Peregrine(47 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Instead of rehashing the same old political arguments and trash talk, for an interesting take on the election and America's standing in the world read:
http://app.response.stratfor.com/e/es...

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64commoncitizen(949 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

z123, You can be the FIRST to give up YOUR S.S., since you only 54 years old you could plan your own retirement, without S.S. and give your share to the person that never worked to earn their share.

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65LtMacGowan(622 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

First off keep praying for god to save you, republicans because nothing fails like prayer.

I'd also gladly pay much higher taxes if it meant we would get a nationalized healthcare system like Canada or the UK, or France, or Germany... so on so forth.

Don't get me wrong Obamacare is a great step forward but its not the solution. The ultimate goal is a universal single payer system where all americans can get access to healthcare.

No longer will we have to go years with out seeing a doctor and using the E.R. as a poor man's doctors office. No longer will we be denied a MRI because we don't have $3,000 in cash to pay.

Thank you America for not turning your backs on the man who has brought us closer to true healthcare reform that any other.

Thank you Ohio for showing our true colors last night and supporting the President.

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66IslandMike(676 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

Only 63 shopping days left until Obama's 2nd Inauguration!!

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67slappysmith(55 comments)posted 1 year, 5 months ago

its sad that so many conservatives cannot be gracious in defeat and have no clue that its going to take either bipartisanship or voting out every republican in congress to accomplish the things our country needs badly. it astounds me how blind and ignorant people can still be in the 21st century

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