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Romney’s GM and Chrysler ads are an insult to Ohioans

Published: Thu, November 1, 2012 @ 12:00 a.m.

Mitt Romney’s widely debunked claim that GM and Chrysler are moving auto manufacturing jobs to China after being bailed out by President Obama isn’t just dirty politics. The claim suggests that the Republican nominee for president believes the voters of Ohio are not sophisticated enough to separate fact from fiction.

The fact about Chrysler and Jeep is clearly laid out in a statement from the company’s chief executive officer, Sergio Marchionne: “I feel obliged to unambiguously restate our position: Jeep production will not be moved from the United States to China.

“North American production is critical to achieving our goal of selling 800,000 Jeep vehicles by 2014. In fact, U.S. production of our Jeep models has nearly tripled (it is expected to be up 185%) since 2009 in order to keep up with global demand.”

The fact about GM is contained in a searing critique of the advertising campaign.

“The ad is cynical campaign politics at its worst,” Greg Martin, GM spokesman, told the New York Times. “We think creating jobs in the U.S. and repatriating profits back in this country should be a source of bipartisan pride.”

Romney first spun his fiction about Chrysler during a campaign stop in Defiance, Ohio: “I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state Jeep — now owned by the Italians — is thinking of moving all production to China.”

The story he referenced appeared in Bloomberg News. The story did not reflect what Romney had said.

So, how is the GOP presidential standard bearer responding to the widespread denunciation of his charge against the president? By refusing to withdraw the TV campaign commercial playing in Ohio, and even doubling down — with a radio spot that comes close to repeating the charge, and expanding it to include GM.

It does not seem to matter to Romney that every legitimate news organization that has reported on the story has reached the same conclusion: There is no truth to the claim that Chrysler will be eliminating jobs in Toledo and other plants in the U.S. so as to build Jeeps in China. Nor is there a basis for his saying that GM is cutting jobs in America and creating them in China.

It is true that Chrysler, which is owned by the Italian auto maker Fiat, is considering reopening its Chinese plants that were closed in 2009 in the midst of the American auto industry collapse. It is also true that GM has plants in China.

The two companies were struggling to keep afloat when Republican President George W. Bush and his successor, President Obama, correctly concluded that the federal government had to intervene with cash.

The bailout of GM and Chrysler — Ford chose not to take public dollars, but the company’s CEO urged the White House to provide assistance to the other two — has become a major issue in the state of Ohio. More than 800,000 jobs are related to the auto industry, and for regions like the Mahoning Valley, which boasts one of GM’s highest-rated plants because of the success of the Chevrolet Cruze, the bailout was a godsend.

Heavy investments

Not only are the two auto giants making healthy profits, they also are investing heavily in Ohio.

People need only look at GM’s Lordstown assembly facility to see what the bailout has produced. The Cruze is the top selling compact car in America, and GM is pumping in $200 million to prepare the plant for the second generation of the car.

As for Chrysler, it will invest $500 million directly to tool and expand its Toledo assembly complex that will be adding 1,100 jobs on the second shift by 2013. The complex produces the Jeep Wrangler, and will build the successor to the Jeep Liberty.

Romney’s attempt at disinformation won’t work. He is on record as opposing the government bailout of GM and Chrysler and is now attempting to distract Ohioans with the latest fiction about President Obama.


1AnotherAverageCitizen(1183 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Romney = LIES LIES and more LIES !!!!

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2Eagleman1969(9 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

I DID read two individual stories last week. One considering taking all Jeep production to China. The other, moving the rest of Chrysler to Italy to save Fiat!

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3VindyPost(436 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Romney is an insult to Ohioians and American Middle Class Citizens. Former Gov. Romney & Gov. Kasich and cronies have distorted, lied, and deceived the public to no end. Open up your eyes and listen with your ears people.
What the heck do people think? If you really think Romney is in it for you...THINK AGAIN!
This guy is a habitual / twisted liar, deceitful, and frankly, hurts himself EVERY time he opens his mouth.
Not to mention his recent "photo-ops" along with Ryan...BOGUS!!!!!

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4chuck_carney(499 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

President Obama gave Chrysler to Italian owned Fiat for no money. Of course, Fiat is going to say it is not moving jobs to China to build the Jeep. (Remember too that Obama doen't take action against China as the world's largest polluter. Querry if vehicles in China are subject to the same strict CAFE standards as ours).

Notice how Vindypost and Another AverageCitizens always make personal attacks and ad hominem arguments. We citizens do think and listen, just not to the two of you. It's not worth our time and effort

4 more days for real change for the good of our country.

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5Letstryagain(217 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

This is from Bloomberg online:
"Bloomberg News reported Oct. 22 that Chrysler’s majority owner Fiat SpA (F) planned to resume Jeep output in China and may eventually make all of the brand’s models there. The report stated that potential production in China would be in addition to output at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio, where Chrysler is adding shifts and hiring more workers."

( http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10... )

This is CBS news has to say about Romney's reference to the Bloomberg article in Defiance, OH where the issue was first brought to light:

"I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state Jeep -- now owned by the Italians -- is thinking of moving all production to China. I will fight for every good job in America. I'm going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if it's fair America will win."

The Republican was seemingly riffing on a series of right wing blog reports circulating Thursday that incorrectly interpreted a Bloomberg story from earlier in the week. Bloomberg reported that Chrysler was considering moving production of Jeeps sold in the Chinese market to China, but emphasized that Jeeps sold in the American market would continue to be manufactured in America.

The confusion stemmed from the first paragraph of the Bloomberg story, which explained that Chrysler-owner Fiat "plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in the country."

Now this is not so hard to understand. CBS reports that Bloomberg did produce a news story that says Jeep plans on returning Jeep production to China, and may eventually make all of its models in the country. The link is posted above so everyone can read and interpert for themselves.

Romney said:
"I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state Jeep -- now owned by the Italians -- is thinking of moving all production to China. "

The Bloomberg article says the company is thinking about moving all production to China, Romney said he read a story saying Jeep is considering moving all production to China. Where is the lie?

The lie here, is the spin the President's campaign has placed on the story, and Romney's speach, that production in the US would be moved to China. This was never mentioned by Romney or the Bloomberg article. Instead it was manufactured for the the voters in Ohio to benefit the Obama campaign. Of course, neither of the manufacturers responded specifically to Romney's quote, that Jeep was thinking, or considering the move of production to China.

(Sorry if there are any typos, have to run, out of time!)

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6saddad(651 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

I wonder what is in Romney's tax returns. No other Presidential candidate has ever kept such a secret. I wonder what his tax plan is for the rest of us if he should win the election. Ive never before seen someone seek election by saying that he will not disclose his plans. I dont understand how anyone in their right mind could find this acceptable. You Romney voters need to ask yourselves what has happened to your intellect.

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7dmacker(498 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

"It is true that Chrysler, which is owned by the Italian auto maker Fiat, is considering reopening its Chinese plants that were closed in 2009 in the midst of the American auto industry collapse. It is also true that GM has plants in China."
My question is what are they going to build in those plants if not cars?

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8DwightK(1530 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Whos is voting for this guy? He insulted the British during the Olympics, "misinterpreted" this Bloomberg article about Jeep and won't admit that the Obamacare is really his idea. He really can't be trusted to make a good decision.

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9rocky14(818 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Romney----lies and liars who lie=Willard

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10jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

VindyPost says that Romney is an insult to Ohioans. Obama is an insult to all Americans.

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11redeye1(5529 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

DwightK I'm voting for Romney because I'm tired of waiting for the big CHANGE.. I know we were in rough times when he wen in t, but he knew that too and still promised things he knew he couldn't produce. But thats okay with alot of you, Well, it isn't with me. All I have seen since he entered the office is higher food prices, higher gas prices, higher unemployment etc. I know your next answer will be look at all the prices (gas etc) that have come down in the last few weeks. That is only because we are in a so-called swing state. Once the election is over watch prices climb even higher.

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12AnotherAverageCitizen(1183 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Romney started Romney care. won't admit it.

Romney said he will get rid of all of Fed Romney care.

Romney also said he will keep part of Romny care.

Come on man, make up your mind.

Romney was to cancel his Tuesday Rally in Dayton. He didnt even stand up to his word then. He had his rally, just with a different name.

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13AnotherAverageCitizen(1183 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Much better then 4 years ago when 800,000 losing their jobs every month. THANK YOU MR. OBAMA

NEW YORK - Companies added 158,000 jobs in October, data from a payrolls processor showed on Thursday in a revamped report on the private sector labor market.

The historical data for the ADP National Employment Report was revised as part of the new methodology, which was used for the first time in the October report. September's increase has halved to 88,200 new jobs from an initially reported 162,000. Economists had forecast October's report would show a gain of 135,000 jobs, according to a Reuters poll.

Meanwhile, the number of Americans filing new claims for unemployment benefits fell last week, a sign the labor market's slow recovery was gaining traction.


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14InterestedInAll2(11 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Did anybody see that Obama's original Auto Czar Steve Rattner admitting it was him and the US Treasury who decided who would get to keep their pensions? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/... The Obama Administration has said it was GM, then Delphi, then the PBGC. Truth has a way of coming to the surface, and it only hurts if it is supposed to. Watch out, Obama, this one is going to hurt! He should just resolve the issue now and be fair to all the middle class workers, not just the union-represented workers. 1700 jobs for our area alone depend on it!

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15jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Hey AAC, much better than 4 yrs ago, infact the last 2 yrs of the Bush adm. Pelosi & Reid ran the show. That's where our trouble began.

All I hear from you Dems is that this adm. is providing jobs, jobs, & more jobs.
Yet there are no jobs to be had. The economy is in the dumper. Calif. cities are declaring bankruptcy, every day another company is laying off more people. Interest rates are the lowest that anyone can remember & still people are not buying homes.
Sure there has been a blip in new home purchases. But that has been a blip. Not worth a hill of beans.
You always judge a person by his past. The past 4 yrs stunk.
Remember when Reagan took over from Carter? During the Carter adm. we had 16% interest, on new const, the result was no new const.
Remember the high inflation then. Reagan didn't complain about the economy he inherited. He went about & fixed it in 2 yrs.
Also answer me this. If Romney is elected, will he have inherited this economic mess from Obama or Bush?

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16jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Dwight is another one. He speaks of the insult to the Olympics. Many Englishment agreed with him.
Dwight let's talk about something serious like Fast & Furious, & Bengahzi.

This is mind blowing. Must watch!


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17DwightK(1530 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

The Delphi retirees should get their pensions but there's no way Romney will help them. Their best shot is to get someone like Sherrod Brown and Tim Ryan on their side but they haven't figured out how to do that yet.

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18jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Obamacare is a health plan we are forced to purchase, & fined if we don't. A plan which will cover 20 million people, without adding a single new DR, but provides 16,000 new IRS agents.
It was written be a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it. It was passed by a congress who didn't read it, but exempted themselves from it. will be funded by a treas. secy. who didn't pay his taxes, for wich we will be taxed for 4 yrs before any benefits take effect. By a Govt which has almost bankrupted Soc Sec & Medicare, bankrupted Amtrack & the Post Office. All this to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese & financed by a country that is broke
Also Romneycare is no where near 2700 pages long.

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19redeye1(5529 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Sherrod Brown and Timmy Ryan could care less about anybody but themselves. They both have shown that over the years , neither one can stand on their own two legs and vote for themselves its allways along party lines with them both. The only time you see either, is if there is a photo -op. To me they are both like diapers , they are both so full of crap that they both need to be changed.

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20redeye1(5529 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Sherrod Brown and Timmy Ryan could care less about anybody but themselves. They both have that over the years , neither one can stand on their own two legs and vote for themselves its allways along party lines with them both. To me they are both like diapers , they are both so full of crap that they both need to be changed.

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21AnotherAverageCitizen(1183 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago


800,000 doing better this month then 4 years ago. Another 800,000 are not losing ther jobs like 4 years ago. The stock market is not tanking like 4 years ago.

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22comprehension(1 comment)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Romney's truth deficit. I love how fans try to misread the published articles in the same way Romney's spin tries to.
Bottom line, no plans to shut down US plants. In fact. Jeep is hiring thousands more US employees.
Shameless, to profit from shutting down businesses and laying off Americans through Bain AND throwing the American auto industry to the wolves like Bain which absolutely would defund the pensions, break the union contracts, and offshore the jobs. But now Romney takes credit for the bailouts AND claims the successful bailout is somehow a failure.
Obama is superman. Slowed an accelerating decline, reversed it and now leading an accelerating uptrend!
That is how it is done in spite of Republicans trying to make America fail so they could beat Obama in 2012, their highest priority and most ruthless methods!

Next thing you know Republicans will be augmenting terrorist attacks on Americans by blaming Americans, any Americans, and calling for the ouster of the only candidate running who prioritized getting Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda leadership and DID IT!

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23jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Hey sad, I wonder what Obama is hiding in not answering questions about Fast & Furious. What is he hiding about not answering questions about Benghazi. Why won't he expose his college applications and transcripts.

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24jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

comprehension, I noticed this was your 1st comment on this message board.

Where have you been when the following went bankrupt?

Energy 1
Beacon Power
Abound Solar
Amonix Solar
Spectra Watt
Eastern Energy

All of these companies were Obama campaign contributors.

Solyndra alone was over $500 million.

Now when you figure that 35%, of the funds given to the above, were borrowed, we are now paying the interest on the borrowed funds

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25Politico(28 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Read this piece. Romney is right, and has been. It's the continous stream of lies, distortions, and deception that's fooling the ignorant, misinformed, blind democrats who can't seem to develop a brain for themselves.

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26jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Obama the liar:

Here is a sample of the devious, unethical,

law breaking acts that this administration will go to. Obama & his

people are corrupt without honesty or an ounce of integrity. Obama &

company will lie, cheat and steal, those actions are taken against ALL

Americans. By the way the 4th. to last sentence says it all, the American

people (government-that is us tax payers) will pay the severance packages.

These guys cannot do anything above board !

Subject: Fw: Lockheed

This is absolutely

spot on true, check it out yourself Google " Lockheed pending

Keep this going and lets try to sway

a few more voters and try to avoid

the calamity that awaits us if this clown gets another [4] years

to serve up his koolaid


Lockheed Martin had planned to lay

off 123,000 defense workers on Jan

due to the sequestration law.

The law requires Lockheed to give 60-day
notice to all to-be-fired employees within 60 days.

That drop dead date
would be November 1st. Since this would be bad

for the election.

Obama has promised that our government would cover all Lockheed

severance packages to fired employees if Lockheed would not release

the names and locations of

those losing their jobs until after

the election!
Send this to all you know since this may not show up in the news. This posting is

from a defense contract newspaper called The Hill. This is blatantly

against the law.

Read details below and pass to your undecided



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27tvukovich(9 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

If you are worried about unemployment now, wait till these fine people you elect start trying to jam right-to-work up you backside.
Remember, there are 23 states with so called right-to-work law, or as it should be called Union Busting Law in effect now, then why do those states have unemployment?
Ask your elected officals why that is so.
and one more thing to think about,
you will hear that you shoudn't have to pay union dues to have a good job, if that is the case you shouldn't have to pay... a mortage for a good house...or county club dues to play at a good golf course... or pay a monthly payment to have a nice car,
get what I'm saying, republicans think Unions are the only Business in the U.S. that doesn't need funds to operate. DO YOU WANT YOU KIDS TO HAVE A SHOT AT THE MIDDLE CLASS? Have a Great Day!

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28jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

tvuk sounds like a Dem Committeeman.

"you shouldn't have to pay a mortage for a good house." WOW that is certainly a reach. Whatever that means.

50 - 60 yrs ago, unions were certainly more respected than they are today. Then they worked for their membership, but today they walk with communists, socialists, anarchists, etc. Their membership has dwindled considerably. The only membership gains they have made is with govt. employees, and you see what is happening in the state of California - bankruptcy in city after city.

I have never bought a foreign car, but if GM pulls some of those tactics they pulled, in yrs past, where one plant goes on strike, and that plant causes other plants to lay off workers, because of a shortage of supplies - I'm out of here.

Some of those foreign cars mfg down South, in non union plants, are looking pretty good to me.

I believe right-to-work laws will become THE LAW, in the majority of states, in the next 25 to 30 years, and all of America will be better off because of it.

That BMW plant, in South Carolina, has many very happy employees. I toured it sometime ago & was surprised at the energy shown, by all employees, on the assby line.

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29Letstryagain(217 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

I know this is off topic but there is a report in the Plain Dealer:

Here is the summary, four men were arrested fpr receivng stolen property. What was the property? Large 4x8 Romney campaign sings. Now we are not sure they were all union members, but two of the four list themselves as business agents for Toledo district.

Class act union members -- race must ne a little closer then we think.

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30jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

The Washington Examiner reported on Wednesday on their analysis of the SEC filings of 15 publically traded companies that received taxpayer assistance from the Obama administration. The Examiner found that executives and corporate insiders had “pocketed tens of millions by selling their stock after the government's money poured in and before their companies' values plummeted.”
These executives bet against their companies after asking taxpayers for help, and cashing out as taxpayer money went to waste.
In two cases, insiders sold off stock worth nearly the amount of their government funding. Executives at Amyris, which received $24.3 million in government support, sold off $21 million worth of stock since 2009. At Solazyme, which received $21.8 million from taxpayers, executives made $18.4 million selling their stock in the company.
These profits by executives dependent on taxpayer support underscore one of the fundamental problems with the President’s green energy initiatives – a problem his administration has been curiously uninterested in addressing: the President’s programs ask taxpayers to take all the risk of funding “green” startups, but let the private individuals who asked for help keep all the profits.
In an even more outrageous example reported earlier this year, the CEO of First Solar – recipient of $3 billion in government loan guarantees – sold nearly half a billion dollars wprth of stock in his company as the price fell.
Despite the President’s determination to continue funding green energy companies on the taxpayer dollar, the Washington Examiner found that so far his “investments” have performed abysmally:
"The Obama administration gave more than $700 million in grants and guaranteed an additional $500 million in loans to publicly traded green energy companies through its 2009 stimulus package. If Obama had invested all that money in a Standard & Poors index fund of the top 500 publicly traded companies, his investment would have seen a 73 percent return since he took office. In contrast, the Obama "green energy" stimulus portfolio has fallen by 78 percent -- performing about five points worse than green energy companies that didn't get subsidies.”

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31jojuggie(1664 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

One of New York’s most influential and traditionally Democratic media organizations pulled a stunner Sunday when it reversed its 2008 endorsement of Barack Obama to join the New York Post in endorsing Mitt Romney.

“Four years ago, the Daily News endorsed Obama, seeing a historic figure whose intelligence, political skills and empathy with common folk positioned him to build on the small practical experience he would bring to the world’s toughest job,” the endorsement in part states. “We valued Obama’s pledge to govern with bold pragmatism and bipartisanship. The hopes of those days went unfulfilled.”

The endorsement also ticks off a list of reasons for why the daily tabloid is backing Romney in 2012 – including smaller paychecks, fewer jobs and higher subway fares and gasoline prices.

“America’s heart, soul, brains and muscle -- the middle- and working-class people who make this nation great -- have been beset for too long by sapping economic decline,” the editorial continues. “So, too, (have) New York breadwinners and families.”

Beyond the rhetoric, the paper backs up its decision with a salvo of numbers after the 2008 financial crisis – including a 7.9 percent national jobless rate and nine million fewer jobs.

The paper also points out the hometown crowd, with some of the most well-educated and well-paid residents in the country not spared.

The median household income for a New York family dropped by $54 a week over that period, the paper also points out.

The Daily News joins nearly a dozen other major U.S. newspapers in switching endorsements from Obama to Romney, according to the University of California, Santa Barbara’s American Presidency Project.

Only one newspaper, The San Antonio Express-News, which endorsed the Republican presidential nominee in 2008, Arizona Sen. John McCain, has switched to endorsing Obama, according the survey.

The 11 papers, according the study, that also switched to Romney are:

The New York Daily News

Long Island Newsday

Houston Chronicle

Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Orlando Sentinel

Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel

Nashville Tennessean

Des Moines Register

Illinois Daily Herald

Los Angeles Daily News

Los Angeles Press-Telegram

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/...

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32ABRAHAML(9 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

I don't know what all the squabbling is about? GM and the union that owns it will eventually sell destruct. And there goes another 42 billion bucks that America spent wisely. Oh, it's great to be from the land of the "FREE" bee's.

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33ABRAHAML(9 comments)posted 3 years, 6 months ago

Let's face it Democrats if Jesus Christ were a Republican you all would crucify him "just" because he was'nt a Democrat!!!!!!!

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