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Bishop, Hagan have ‘respectful’ meeting

Published: Wed, May 9, 2012 @ 12:06 a.m.

By David Skolnick



State Rep. Robert F. Hagan, whose invitation to be commencement speaker at a Catholic nursing school was rescinded by Bishop George V. Murry, met with the head of the Catholic Diocese of Youngstown.

The bishop had the invitation to speak at the graduation ceremony for Mercy School of Nursing at the St. Columba Cathedral rescinded April 27 because Hagan, a Catholic, supports abortions.

The bishop and Hagan of Youngstown, D-60th, met last Thursday, according to a joint statement from the two released Tuesday.

The two “noted that we disagree on the issue of abortion while at the same time [agree] on other issues of public policy, such as comprehensive immigration reform, health-care access to all persons, especially the poor, the need for more public response to poverty alleviation, and the elimination of the death penalty,” the statement reads.

The two agreed to continue discussing “shared concerns,” and called the meeting “cordial and respectful,” according to the statement.

The bishop previously said that the Mercy School invited Hagan “without any proper review by my office.”

Though Bishop Murry said he respects “many of the social-justice positions taken by” Hagan, the state representative “consistently voted for pro-abortion legislation, policies and funding. Abortion extinguishes an unborn human life. It is an intrinsically evil action, which the Catholic church has condemned for centuries.”

After being told he was no longer invited, Hagan asked for a meeting with the bishop. The bishop agreed.

Hagan at the time wrote on his Facebook page that he was “saddened that the work that I have done to feed the poor, clothe the naked, help cure the sick, and to bring an end to the death penalty has fallen on deaf ears. I guess being an altar boy for six years didn’t qualify me for dispensation.”


1rickking123(331 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Sorry Bob but the Catholic Church has every right to not permit you to speak at a Catholic graduation ceremony regardless of what you may think.

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2biggee(43 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Sooo does this mean the protest has been called off for the weekend? Certinally Hagan was gonna make some signs and have a picket line.{it is what he is good at} they could just use the back of the Stop The Fracking signs...wait he used those to protest the govenor...Bob please do the states business and leave the protesting to others!

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3chuck_carney(499 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Congratulations to Bishop Murray for not budging on his position. Hagan does not see the contradiction of his views. While he opposes the death penalty, he supports an "intrinsically evil action", namely abortion which snuffs out the life of an unborn child.

Will excommunication be next?

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4willinnyny(121 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Catholic Bishops like Murray are making the Catholic Church more and more irrelevant with each passing day. One expects far broader, open-minded, "catholic" thinking of Jesuits. Is there room for Diversity in the Catholic Church?

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5Attis(1134 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Life does not begin at conception and end at birth, like most so-called pro-lifers functionally think; nor does censorship stop the truth which has a vibrant life outside of feudal institutions.

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6WhatRUAfraidOf(85 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Well, at least they were able to agree to disagree, which is something in this vituperous environment in which we now live.

One of my dearest friends is a political conservative and I am a liberal. Years ago, we agreed not to talk seriously about politics because we disagree vehemently on social issues. We kid each other sometimes and laugh about it, but we keep the strong partisan stuff out of our conversations. We've been friends for over 20 years and I wouldn't trade my friendship with him for anything. It's too bad people have forgotten that, as humans, we have much more in common than we have differences.

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7teddybear6(40 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

What people seem to forget is that no religion is perfect, including the Catholic church (and I am Catholic). While I take pride in being Catholic, I do not agree with all of the views of the Catholic church. No one really is without sin of some sort. Who are we to judge other people on their religious beliefs. All these principles are man-made, by man-made sinners.

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8republicanRick(1731 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Hagan at the time wrote on his Facebook page that he was “saddened that the work that I have done to feed the poor, clothe the naked, help cure the sick."

From the above Hagan quote, does HE think HE is Christ? Boy, talk about your inflated egos.

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9peacelover(839 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Your letters are refreshing on this page. I get so tired of all the blowhard ranting and name calling posted by the usual "deep thinkers". Thanks for adding some intelligent comments.

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10misterlee(118 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Where have you been? You never responded to my comment the other day. Then I joined that website you wanted me to join but you won't accept my friend request, even though you've posted on there today, so I know you saw it. Are you afraid of me? Did you finally realize what a jackass you've been? You say you're a Texas cowboy, but you're just a scared little Internet tough guy. Don't come here bashing our town constantly if you're not gonna back it up outside of this anonymous forum.

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11Westsider(269 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

People can disagree respectfuilly. That said, politicians have to have the fortitude to live by their words and positions. The Bishop did not say that Representative Hagan can no longer attend church or receive the sacraments because of his personal beliefs, just that he cannot make a public appearance in a religiously-based event contrary to his personal beliefs. That is all. Period. Repesentative Hagan and all other members of any religious faith are certainly entitled to hold personal beliefs and speak out supporting them. However, that might mean that there may be some restrictions on where you can proseletize.

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12Silence_Dogood(1675 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

When Bob Hagan used the term "dispensation" he was in essence acknowledging the fact that the Church views the act of abortion as an act of murder. Well Bob Hagan has to deal with the fact that his views are in conflict with the Church's teachings, so with that said , does Bob Hagan expect the Church to bow to his views, or does he man up and admit that his views are contrary to all that he has been taught. No, what in fact he does is cry like a baby and wants a free pass, boo hoo hoo Bob you wont be getting a pass on this subject.

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13redeye1(5656 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Maybe Bob should have invited the Bishop to the Lemon Grove for their little meeting. Then he could have shown the Bishop the real Bob Hagen. The one who likes to push and shove people around.. He would have been in Bob's world.

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14BigJim2234(57 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Why don't you write an article about Bob Hagans top accomplishments. OOW I forgot there are none. 40 Years of public service and no accomplishments. Other than feeding all the hungry and clothing the naked and getting knocked out at a bar...NOTHING 0!!! Skolnick you are desperate to write this?

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15walter_sobchak(2713 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

I believe that having the 711 connector named after his father is an accomplishment!

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16BigJim2234(57 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Just leaving for work...Your right Walt. I forgot about that...He did get the 711 connector built. Sorry.

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17Ypboy(64 comments)posted 4 years, 2 months ago

Bobby Hagan is just as arrogant today as we was in high school....and just as dumb. He wants to feed and clothe the poor while killing the unborn....and think a couple of good acts justify the intrinsically evil action of abortion. Congrats to the Bishop for defending the Catholic church and shame on you fools who continue to vote for arrogant Bobby.

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