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YPD seeking ex-military for the force



Published: Wed, June 27, 2012 @ 12:07 a.m.

By John W. Goodwin Jr.

jgoodwin@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

The city’s police department soon will be looking for a few good men and women to add to the force.

The one requirement: They must have served in the United States military at some point since 2001.

The U.S. Justice Department on Monday awarded a Community Oriented Policing Services grant to the city. The three-year grant is for $727,000 and will cover the cost of hiring an additional seven officers, but police Chief Rod Foley said there is a stipulation in the grant stating that those hired with the funds must have served active duty in the military for six months since 2001.

The department just hired nine new officers in May and still are operating from that same civil service list of potential hires.

Foley said there are few, if any, veterans on that list, so the department will be actively recruiting former military personnel for the next round of potential candidates.

“We are hoping, tentatively, to get people who have those qualifications. This [hiring] list we have now expires later this year, and we don’t have too many meeting that criteria,” he said. “We have to make sure when we do our recruitment that we get that information out to people who meet the criteria and are interested in law enforcement.”

Foley said it is nice to have former military personnel on the candidate list because they are accustomed to taking orders and following a chain of command.

“They slide right into this field,” he said.

Hiring veterans under the grant, Foley said, is good because the grant can be used to pay their salary while they are going through police training. He said many military candidates will not have that training because they spent that time serving their country.

Foley has made it clear that 152 officers is the minimum number with which he can effectively run the department.

The hiring of the nine officers in May put the department at 152, but the chief said the grant will allow for the replacement of officers set to retire this year and a few additional officers to patrol the city.

“We felt that the 152 was the bare bones we could operate at without calling officers out for overtime or forcing officers to stay over,” the chief said. “We are trying to give ourselves stability in the patrol division, where we have officers available to answer calls for service and other officers to work those ‘hot-spot’ areas in the city.”

Newton Falls Police Department in Trumbull County also received $125,000 to hire one police officer under the grant.


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1jfgiancola(154 comments)posted 2 years ago

Instead of ex military for the YPD we should get a rogue force of ex military and unleash them in the high crime areas of the city. Preferably they should be suffering from PTSD and at the first sound of gunfire they could just go crazy and clean this town up.

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2slappysmith(55 comments)posted 2 years ago

thanks jf that was a good one. i needed a good laugh unfortunately its true

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3Psyoper83(2 comments)posted 2 years ago

Have you ever seen police training or military training? They're really not that different. I'm a veteran and I've watched a little bit of police training. I didn't really notice much of a difference between the two types.

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4kensgirl(570 comments)posted 2 years ago

WHOEVER gets hired is going to have a hard job in front of them. You can't pay these guys enough. Thanks guys for all that you do. You're the real heroes.

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5navygirl(14 comments)posted 2 years ago

I'd apply if I was getting out of the Navy but I'm not anytime soon. We need veterans to get hired for jobs as the unemployment rate for veterans is higher than the normal unemployment rate.

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6DwightK(1225 comments)posted 2 years ago

If we would get out of Afghanistan the federal government could use the money saved to hire police here and treat gangs like the terrorists they are.

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7steelhead(123 comments)posted 2 years ago

I am all for hiring veterans. That being said, I am for hiring women, minorities, anyone, really, even the occasional white male. Why don't we just hire the most competent, prepared, dedicated candidate regardless of affiliation with anything? Veterans usually get 20% bonus on their test scores, and education and training is available in abundance. Just does not seem fair that ANY person or group of people is given preferential treatment. Please don't misunderstand, I thank and respect our veterans. This statement is about the system and not veterans. What's next? Some crazy plan with two lists?

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8vsdevpay(1 comment)posted 2 years ago

Steelhead, you should get your facts straight first... Veterans don't usually get 20% bonus on their test... If you are a Veteran you get 5 points, if you are a disabled veteran you get 10 points. Not 20% higher-- just because your a veteran. Points and Percentages are 2 different things. This is about Veterans, not the system. I fought for the freedom of this country...What that means is you have the right to print your opinion here... Your welcome

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9MrRight(28 comments)posted 2 years ago

@vsdevpay-
-Read carefully, as you can see veterans DO get 20% bonus pionts as stated in the Ohio Revised Code section 124. I took the liberty of copying it for you. Enjoy your reading. Oh, and I agree with "steelhead". It has everything to do with the "system" not veterans. First, its two different lists in Y-town, one for whites then one for blacks. Then they combine the lists but you still have people like ex chief Hughes' son getting hired over more qualified people above him and now they're giving jobs away to veterans. Nothing against veterans as well but what happened to hiring the most qualified candidate? Veterans already get 20% bonus points as I mentioned before and as you will read so now thats not good enough? Lets just give them jobs now and circumvent the whole proicess?

" – Veteran’s Credit On Open Competitive Examination"

Any member of any branch of the United States Armed Forces and their auxiliary corps, or any member of the nursing corps of the Armed Forces or a Red Cross Nurse who has served with the Armed Forces or the Hospital Service of the United States, at any period of time during which the United States has been engaged in armed conflict of occupational duty, or when the selective service or similar conscriptive acts have been in effect, who has been honorably discharged there from or transferred to the reserve with evidence of satisfactory performance, may file with the Commission a certificate of honorable service or honorable discharge, whereupon such veteran shall receive an additional credit of twenty percent (20%) of the written score. If a passing grade is attained in the written examination.

A person who has been discharged from the Armed Forces of the United States for medical reasons must submit written proof that said person was completely and honorably discharged from the respective service branch in order to receive Veterans Credit.

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