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Scouts to review resolution to allow gay troop leaders



Published: Wed, June 6, 2012 @ 9:16 p.m.

NEW YORK (AP)

The Boy Scouts of America will review a resolution that would allow individual units to accept gays as adult leaders, but a spokesman says there’s no expectation that the ban on gay leaders will in fact be lifted any time soon.

The resolution was submitted by a Scout leader from the Northeast in April and presented last week at the Scouts’ national meeting in Orlando, Fla., according to BSA spokesman Deron Smith.

Smith said Wednesday it would be referred to a subcommittee, which will then make a recommendation to the national executive board. The process would likely be completed by May 2013, according to Smith, who said there were no plans at this time to change the policy.

During last week’s meeting, the Scouts were presented with a petition, bearing more than 275,000 names, protesting the ouster of a lesbian mother, Jennifer Tyrrell, who’d been serving as a Scout den mother near Bridgeport, Ohio.

Among those who presented the Change.org petition, and met with Scout officials, was Eagle Scout Zach Wahls, an Iowa college student who was raised by lesbian mothers.

Wahls, in a telephone interview, said he and his allies planned a campaign to mobilize opposition to the gay-exclusion policy from within Scout ranks, with the goal of building pressure for the resolution to be approved.

“Up to the day they end this policy, they’ll be saying they have no plans to do so,” Wahls said. “But there’s no question it’s costing the Boy Scouts in terms of membership and public support.”

The Scouts, who celebrated their 100th anniversary in 2010, have had a long-standing policy of excluding gays and atheists. Controversy over the policy intensified in 2000 when the U.S. Supreme Court allowed the Scouts to maintain the policy in the face of a legal challenge.

Leaders of several regional scouting councils have asked for the policy to be scrapped or modified, to no avail.


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1VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

If my sons were going to Boy Scouts and I found out the troop leader was gay, I would remove them from the troop. There is no way I'm going to allow them to go camping or on a hike in the woods with a gay troop leader.

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2Tigerlily(488 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Good. Then don't send them. Their loss.

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3furor(7 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Now here is a novel solution. Why dont the gays and lesbians start their own scouting clubs?

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4DwightK(1255 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Sexual orientation has nothing to do with whether one is a good scout leader or not. In the scouting program, leaders never discuss sex with the scouts. that's a parent's job. I don't understand why people are confusing homosexuality with pedophelia.

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5furor(7 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

We got confused when the odd couples and some living alone in the area tried luring children.

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6walter_sobchak(1901 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

As a scout leader, I don't want the boys led by homosexuals, or wife abusers, or drunks, or felons, or drug-users, or pedophiles, etc. I personally have instructed my two Eagle Scout sons that all of these statuses are wrong and immoral. So, now we have a rug-muncher that uses an unfortunate confused Eagle Scout to try to change the BSA policy on homosexuality. Here's the point, the organization does not want you nor does it need you.

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7VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Sexual orientation has everything to do with it. I do not want my boys led or influenced by someone who is gay. I do not want them to think being gay is admirable. I want my boys to grow up being normal family men with a wife and children. Why is that so wrong?

What has happened to American society that we must now accept all these strange and non-typical individuals as being normal? They are not normal. The more we accept it, the more we see it grow, and that is very troubling.

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8ohdrama0901(53 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

God forbid they get a black scout leader they will really flip out. I highly doubt that a gay leader will instill his sexuality on a child plus you already may have a closet gay man leading your children so who are you to say?

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9city_dweller(194 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Wow, I did realize raising boys to be moral, upstanding citizens included using derogatory terms like "rug-muncher" to insult people who are different from you. Have you also schooled you sons in all the nastiest racist and sexist terms they'll need to know to be upstanding, well-rounded bigots? If that's the kind of leaders the Boys Scouts are attracting these days, they have bigger problems than a few gay leaders.

While you might lump gays in with felons, drug dealers, and drunks, I'd be far far more concerned with any parent or Scout leader telling my son that a person is wrong or immoral based on who they love. Hatred, discrimination, and exclusion based on difference is as immoral as it gets. Excluding gays now is every bit as wrong as prohibiting black Scouts was 60 years ago. Your grandkids will be embarrassed for you.

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10walter_sobchak(1901 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

I don't look at the term as being derogatory but more a descriptive of their practices. If the sensible shoe fits, wear it. As far as racist and sexist terms, they get that from the "music" that is released today. There is nothing wrong with righteous indignation. I choose to discriminate and exclude those that I don't care for and that I believe can be a detriment.

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11Tigerlily(488 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

city-dweller, applause, applause. truth.

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12jrolley325(800 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

so basically discrimination is OK as long as you don't like a certain group of people

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13city_dweller(194 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

Seriously, Walter? Wow, that's some kind of scary logic. Thankfully, you are not the Supreme Arbitor of who is worthy of acceptance and approval. You are not the final word on whether something is derogatroy, and in our society, it's typically the victims who get to decide what is offensive, since, you know, they are the targets of prejudice and harassment. they are the ones who suffer because of people like you. And yes, by any definition, the term you used IS offensive. Claim your bigotry proudly, man! Why would someone who hate gays as much as you obviously use anything but the most demeaning and insulting terms?

You have absolutely no reasonable expectation in our society of ensuring you are isolated from people you don't like. They have as much right to live, works, play, and exist in our society as you do. I suggest you look to Iran or Saudia Arabia for the kinds of laws and customs you apparently support.

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14VINDYAK(1799 comments)posted 2 years, 3 months ago

This is not about hating other people, their orientation or their culture. I know people who are gay. Generally they are outwardly nice people, but some are a little strange. I don't avoid them, I am nice to them, but they are not my friends.

But getting back to the point.

This is about protecting our children and their future. As parents we have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to raise our children to be good family people and good citizens we can be proud of. Don't try and condemn us for that. We are only doing what good parents do and that is to protect our children and raise them to become good parents for their children.

Think about this...if everyone in American became gay, there would be no future generation. In a sense, this happened to the Shakers, as their over-zealous religious beliefs prevented them from bearing chidren. Thus, their culture and their future disappeared. That is not what I want to happen to my children or to theirs. Keep family values front and center in society and do not push it aside for suspect cultures. This is the only true way of keeping America strong and moving forward.

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