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Tough ID laws could block votes

Published: Mon, July 9, 2012 @ 12:00 a.m.

Associated Press

When Edward and Mary Weidenbener went to vote in Indiana’s primary in May, they didn’t realize that state law required them to bring government photo IDs such as a driver’s license or passport.

The husband and wife, both approaching 90 years old, had to use a temporary ballot that would be verified later, even though they knew the people working the polling site that day.

Unaware that Indiana law obligated them to follow up with the county election board, the Weidenbeners ultimately had their votes rejected — news to them until informed recently by an Associated Press reporter.

Edward Weidenbener, a World War II veteran who had voted for Mitt Romney in the Republican presidential contest, said he was surprised by the rules and the consequences.

“A lot of people don’t have a photo ID. They’ll be automatically disenfranchised,” he said.

As more states put in place strict voter ID rules, an AP review of temporary ballots from Indiana and Georgia, which first adopted the most stringent standards, found that more than 1,200 such votes were tossed during the 2008 general election.

During sparsely attended primaries this year in Georgia, Indiana and Tennessee, the states implementing the toughest laws, hundreds more ballots were blocked.

The numbers suggest that the legitimate votes rejected by the laws are far more numerous than are the cases of fraud that advocates of the rules say they are trying to prevent.

Thousands more votes could be in jeopardy for this November, when more states with larger populations are looking to have similar rules in place.

More than two dozen states have some form of ID requirement, and 11 of those passed new rules over the past two years largely at the urging of Republicans who say they want to prevent fraud.

Democrats and voting rights groups fear that ID laws could suppress votes among people who may not typically have a driver’s license, and disproportionately affect the elderly, poor and minorities.

While the number of votes is a small percentage of the overall total, they have the potential to sway a close election.

Remember that the 2000 presidential race was decided by a 537-vote margin in Florida.


1redeye1(5530 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

You have to have an ID to cash a check, If you look too young to but booze or cigs you must have an photo ID.. If people on welfare who don't have ID cards , then all welfare cards shouild have a photo placed on them . Problem solved!!!!!!!!

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2DwightK(1531 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

ID laws for voting are a solution in search of a problem.

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3DwightK(1531 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Well, voter fraud isn't really a problem so I think my comment is valid. How many times have you (or anyone you know) walked into a polling place and when you sign the registry, see that someone has already signed in as you?


That's what I thought.

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4redeye1(5530 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

DwightK That's not the problem, the problem is that people are signing up under different names at various polls and going from place to place to vote.

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5cambridge(3967 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

redeye1....Could you provide some proof that backs up your statement that "people are signing up under different names at various polls and going from place to place to vote." ?


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6doubled(210 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

dear mr. redeye --- you sir, are a complete and utter douchebag.

The Human Race

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7DwightK(1531 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Redeye, are you saying people could sign up multiple times to vote or people have signed up multiple times to vote? There's quite a difference there.

I imagine an audit of the voter rolls would catch such a nefarious person quickly.

I'm against any law that makes it more difficult to vote or threatens to reject legitimate votes.

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8jojuggie(1665 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Cambridge, you must be kidding. In Chicago, dead people have been known to vote. Wake up, man!

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9Traveler(606 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

The democrats main argument is there is never been proof of voter fraud. To which one must ask how do you tell if there has been any when the law forbids you from asking for photo id. T
Then they say since there has been no voter fraud we dont needs this law and one must think should we wait to some one steals a election. What whould happen if a close election like the election we had between bush and kerry was decide by false balots. If it came out a year latter should we have said to bush i am sorry but you didnt win you have 24 hours to pack your things and get out of the white house.

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10DSquared(1747 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

'Vote early and vote often" - Chicago bumper sticker. And Detroit, Gary, Philly,Oakland etc. It's a tradition!

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11DSquared(1747 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

I wonder if Liberals have a problem with anyone wanting to hear AttyGen Holder speak at the NAACP Convention. You had to provide 2 IDs to be admitted! Shocking, right?

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12DwightK(1531 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

You show me proof of a problem and I'll admit we need a solution.

In a country where high voter turnout is anything above 40% I don't think voter fraud is a problem.

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13jojuggie(1665 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

I have been dealing with a local bank for the past 15 years. Every teller knows me by name and addresses me by name, but to cash a check there, I must show my drivers license.

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14tnmartin(507 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

OK, well after the 2008 election, it was discovered that more than 8,000 ILLEGAL ALIENS voted just in Colorado. I guess that is of no importance?
The move to go through the rolls in Florida has revealed numerous cases of those long dead, and many others who are not citizens. And numerous names associated with a very small home.
Not widely reported, oddly, is that not long ago,someone succeeded in giving Eric Holder's name at a polling place and receiving the ballot (which he did not vote)..
Rumors are of 'snowbirds' who vote in both Florida and New York. And similar in places like Campbell.

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15jojuggie(1665 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

The R's in FL aren't allied with any groups like the late Acorn outfit.

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16southsidedave(5185 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

This is really about the poor and minorities not being able to prove their identities so they can stay under the government radar and collect more public assistance.

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17gordy850(22 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

I can't say I ever meet someone who didn't have some form of legal ID. I think if producing an ID is a problem for you, then there just might be a problem. It also will prevent people from voting 12 times!! Wow, good old voter fraud ridden Chicago isn't going to like this!

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18gordy850(22 comments)posted 3 years, 10 months ago

Tough ID laws will block illegal voters and stop multiple repeat voting, Wow, think of that, an honest election.

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