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Youngstown police probe shooting of pit bull on West Side



Published: Mon, January 16, 2012 @ 12:30 a.m.

Youngstown police probe shooting of pit bull on West Side

By JOHN W. GOODWIN JR.

jgoodwin@vindy.com

YOUNGSTOWN

Police are investigating the shooting of a pit-bull terrier on the West Side as the pit bull allegedly was attacking another dog chained in its yard.

Police were called to the 100 block of Halls Heights Avenue just after 4 p.m. Sunday when a woman heard her dog, which was chained near the back door of the home, yelping in pain. The woman went to the door to find her dog being attacked by a brown and white pit bull that lives down the street on Halls Heights.

The woman told police she grabbed a shotgun and went outside. The pit bull ran, but she went outside to make sure the dog left her property. She found the animal still standing behind her garage.

Reports say the pit bull began growling and barking at the 31-year-old woman and she fired one shot from the shotgun, hitting the dog in the face. The dog ran off, but, according to reports, still chased the woman’s 14-year-old son, forcing the boy to jump onto a parked car to escape.

Reports say officers later were approached by the owner of the dog, who said she “rescued” the 2-year-old pit bull about eight months ago. She said her children went outside to play and the dog got outside then refused to come back in.

The woman was able to get the wounded dog back inside, but the dog warden told her the animal is going to need immediate medical attention.

Police reports say the dog is not properly registered with the county.

City law requires that all pit bulls be confined to a pen with an enclosed top or leashed and muzzled. Owners also must carry $100,000 insurance on the animal and post signs letting others know a dog resides on the property.


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1doowoptokidrock(325 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

So was the pit bull taken and the owner cited to court?

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2Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

So was the dog treated? Was the dog owner giving a citation? Was the women who shot the dog brought in for questioning about shooting a gun? Did the 14 year tease the dog? Way to many questions.....

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3USNBOY413(17 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

Stuff like this angers me to no end. How do they know it was a Pit Bull? Does it have papers? Did they do a DNA test? Or was it just a short haired dog that went after another dog or people? Pit Bulls get a bad rap because of media, poor breeding, and lousy owners! I have a Pit Bull AND an English Mastiff and BOTH are great dogs. NEVER bit anyone, NEVER had a problem with police or the dog warden, NEVER got loose. BOTH are great dogs! In fact, my Pit Bull is my therapy dog. You can say "she saved my life on multiple occasions". I have had my two dogs since they were VERY young. I got my pit bull when she was about 6wks old and I got my Mastiff when she was about 3wks old (her mother died shortly after birth). I worked with them everyday training them. It takes a responsible owner to own "aggressive" dogs. You can't just be some hood rat with a tow chain and a bag of dog food to be a good owner. It takes a LOT of work to be a good dog owner and have good dogs. The only reason Pit Bulls have a bad rap is because breeders are only out for the money and the hood rats and dope dealers train them to fight so they can supplement their welfare checks. DONT GIVE PIT BULLS TO THUGS!

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4redvert(2058 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

Same dog will be shot on the Southside in one of the stories farther down the list. That dog gets around!!!

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5pollyh(1 comment)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

This is a terrible situation. There are many issues here. FIrst of all, are both dogs ok, and did they receive adequate medical care and treatment? Also, is the pit bull a mix or a purebread pit bull, and if it is a mix, is it subject to the same regulations? Was the owner cited? Did the woman shooting violate any laws? It seems like the woman could have called police BEFORE shooting the dog. If the dog had run off, she could have retrieved her dog and gone back inside to wait for the police, rather than shooting the dog at that point. Also, the dog warden needed to do more than just tell the dog owner that the dog needed medical attention, the dog warden needed to ensure that both dogs received adequate medical attention. It seems that there needs to be much more investigation into this matter, and also that something needs to be done to make sure both dogs have recieved the medical attention that they required.
Holden H.

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6fattynskinny(195 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

should have had a slug instead of shot, in the gun, dog would be dead

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7cmacdonald(1 comment)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

There are so many facts missing from this article. What is the status of both dogs? Were each given medical attention - that should be paramount. BOTH the owner of the dog AND the miscreant who shot this dog in the face should be cited. We cannot have individuals simply going around shooting people and animals - I hope our society is more decent than that. And WHO made the determination that it is a pit bull? We have LONG known that the majority of the time, when dogs are labeled at pit bulls or pit mixes that the labels are completely erroneous. Every dog that has short hair and a blocky head is NOT a pit. Talk with the Brits. Their purebred, working labrador retrievers are short, stocky, and have large blocky heads. Here in the US, dogs mixed with the English-type labrador retriever are OFTEN mistaken for pit mixes! So, I suggest we get all the facts and get them straight.

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8WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

@cmacdonald
@Lifes2Short
@pollyh

"...miscreant who shot this dog..." "...Was the women who shot the dog brought in for questioning about shooting a gun?..." "...woman could have called police BEFORE shooting the dog..."

I just love how you twits want to see the woman that had both the courage and the means to protect herself, her loved ones and her property get into some kind of trouble. Just because you are too cowardly and stupid to exercise the rights and responsibilities given you by both the Constitution and local ordinances doesn't mean everyone else has to cower away also. I congratulate this woman for taking responsibility for her own safety. You other dumbsticks would sit around and wait to be killed or seriously injured. Cowardice is not as progressive as you think.

And to the others that are defensive about the dogs, quit overvaluing and humanizing these animals. I understand that your minds are soft from decades of voting along the union Democrat line, but these are just ANIMALS. We all love our pets but they are not human beings. If a dog attacks it should be put down. And pit bulls are a threat to safety. Get over it.

My congratulations to this woman. And a warning to pet owners and any others that would directly or indirectly intrude- we gun owners are out here. We are your neighbors and we are trained, equipped, schooled on the law and ready to defend ourselves, our loved ones and our property with deadly force. Keep your pets and yourselves off our property or be prepared for a lawful deadly-force defense.

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9WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

1.) The owner of the dog should be cited.

2.) The dog should be euthanized.

3.) The woman that defended her property should be given a medal.

4.) The people that side with the dog instead of the homeowner that defended herself should also be euthanized.

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10danikytn(247 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

Thats funny, i drive through the East and South sides everyday, and i never see high fencing or placards stating a pit bull resides on the property, ya, that laws really working.

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11Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

billybob

"I just love how you twits want to see the woman that had both the courage and the means to protect herself, her loved ones and her property get into some kind of trouble."

Hey Einstein, what if she accidentally shot a child or killed a child or a innocent human being? If it was legal to just shoot whenever or wherever then no issue. You can't just shoot in a residential area.
Another thing Einstein, then why do the police question or bring down to the station when someone breaks into a home and the owner shoots them?
Guns are meant in a life and death situation, a dog barking and growling is no reason to shoot it in a residential area. So get off your high horse and come back to reality. No problems protecting your house and property from low life armed or unarmed thief's but a dog? You can't really be that stupid.
You put everyone in jeopardy when you shoot a gun idiot.

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12Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

borned

"That dog was going after her son, and could have went after and killed a small child if it was only chased off her property."

??? Did you actually read the article?

1. She found the animal still standing behind her garage.

2. Reports say the pit bull began growling and barking at the 31-year-old woman and she fired one shot from the shotgun, hitting the dog in the face.

3. The dog ran off, but, according to reports, still chased the woman’s 14-year-old son, forcing the boy to jump onto a parked car to escape.

So what am I missing here? She shot the dog in the face and the dog still chased her son? So whether it was shot or chased off her property the dog still could have, as you say, attack a small child and maybe kill the child, so what if she shot the gun and missed the dog and that small child was in the area and got hit with a stray bullet? Would that be OK? smh at such stupidity.

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13WilliamSwinger(341 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

@LIfes2Short

According to the Codified Ordinances of the City of Youngstown, Part Five, Section 549.08, Part (a) No person shall discharge any air gun, rifle, shotgun, revolver, pistol or other firearm within the corporate limits of the Municipality. So you are right on that part. Unfortunately for you, the rest of us that know how to read and comprehend part (b) which adds "This section does not apply when firearms are used in self defense..."

You ask "...what if she accidentally shot a child or killed a child..." I ask you, what if she did not shoot and the dog mauled and killed her son? And what if the dog attacked the woman and raped her? And what if the dog stole her car and robbed a convenient store? And what if the Mayans are right about the apocalypse? And what if moon was made of barbequed ribs? What if, what if, what if! The "what if..." point is completely stupid and you sound like a whining baby. Only the facts matter, not some paranoid delusion of "what if..." The woman lawfully owns the firearm, lawfully fired it upon an illegal dog and defended her pet, her family, herself and her property. I have a "what if" question for you. What if you grew a few neurons together and understood this simple, common sense idea?

And do you actually believe that a person cannot lawfully fire a weapon in self defense in a residential area? Are you serious? We have the RIGHT to defend ourselves. Do you want proof? Why don't you come by my place unannounced some middle-of-the-night and show yourself through the window. Then you and I can have a nice polite discussion about whether or not a person can just shoot to defend themselves in a residential area.

Let me help you understand this you dolt. If you legitimately fear you are in imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death you have every right under the law to defend yourself and your loved ones with deadly force. Deadly force means that you may pull out a firearm and discharge it into the thing that is making you fear for your life and neutralize it with extreme prejudice. That means KILL it.

To answer your query, the Police question a homeowner because their job is to investigate whether a crime occurred. The real question is whether an individual is PROSECUTED for shooting in self defense. We have a legal right to KILL if we legitimately believe that we are at imminent risk of serious bodily harm or death. That is the law, pal. Cope with it.

And to address your point of placing the public in jeopardy, I think a person of low intelligence, such as yourself, is much more a threat to public safety than a homeowner with a shotgun. You can pry some bird-shot out of your hind end with some tweezers and some peroxide. Try getting an elected official out of your hind end because some idiot like you voted for touchy-feely catch-phrases.

Sources:

1.) Conway Green Company website hosting the Codified Ordinances of Youngstown available at http://www.conwaygreene.com/Youngstow...

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14Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

billybob

You rant and rant and your comment is so long winded and boring, add some spice to it. Yawn!

( billybob says)
"The woman lawfully owns the firearm, lawfully fired it upon an illegal dog and defended her pet, her family, herself and her property. I have a "what if" question for you. What if you grew a few neurons together and understood this simple, common sense idea?"

Do you know if the women in question owns the firearm lawfully? Didn't think so.
So if you see a squirrel or bird on your property you can just fire away? They can attack you know. lmfao

(billybob says)
"And do you actually believe that a person cannot lawfully fire a weapon in self defense in a residential area? Are you serious? We have the RIGHT to defend ourselves.

Did I ever say we we cannot protect ourselves? If you read try to comprehend what you read, it'll help in your answers. smh at such stupidity.

(billybob)
"Do you want proof? Why don't you come by my place unannounced some middle-of-the-night and show yourself through the window. Then you and I can have a nice polite discussion about whether or not a person can just shoot to defend themselves in a residential area."

You are such a tool, why in the world would I come to your house in the middle of the night when I don't know you or your kind. Why would I go into anybody's window in the middle of the night if I don't know them. Are you really that stupid?

(billybob says)
"That is the law, pal. Cope with it."

And I'm all for it, where did you get the idea I'm not? Once again dufus, comprehend what you read. geez....

(billybob says)
"And to address your point of placing the public in jeopardy, I think a person of low intelligence, such as yourself, is much more a threat to public safety than a homeowner with a shotgun. You can pry some bird-shot out of your hind end with some tweezers and some peroxide. Try getting an elected official out of your hind end because some idiot like you voted for touchy-feely catch-phrases. "

Come on, get original, not that lame stuff you babble about. Rather boring. Show some originality in your comments. Just because you own a gun don't make you GOD. And btw I was in the Navy and I probably know how to shoot more guns accurately then you could dream about. Oh the idiots in today's society.

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15Lifes2Short(3875 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

raised

"...and Life2Short, admit you are wrong. "

Wrong about what? Shooting at a dog in a residential area? So why not just have everyone shoot at stray dogs and cats that roam on there property. Your OK with that?

Maybe so this might not happen and next time might be a child?

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/woman...

P.S. And did I not say, I'm all for protecting your property against would be criminals and such. Nothing wrong with that. And the what-if's are to make you think before about your actions instead of after when it's to late...just ask the women in the above article.....

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