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D&L blasts Hagan and Sammarone over well study comments



Published: Thu, January 5, 2012 @ 6:06 p.m.

D&L blasts Hagan and Sammarone over well study comments

YOUNGSTOWN

The company that operated a shutdown brine-injection well sharply criticized state Rep. Robert F. Hagan and Youngstown Mayor Charles Sammarone for statements they made to The Vindicator about a study the company will fund near and around the well.

In a statement today to the newspaper, D&L Energy Group said it was “disappointed with the cynical comments” made by the two.

D&L is paying for an independent entity to conduct a geology examination in and around the injection well on Ohio Works Drive. The results would be reviewed by the Ohio Department of Natural Resources, which would determine if the well could resume operations.

Eleven earthquakes were centered close to the well in the past 10 months.

Hagan said the study would be “bought and paid for by D&L,” and he wouldn’t trust the results.

Sammarone and Hagan said people would be more comfortable with an independent study rather than one that could be perceived as being influenced by D&L.

In the statement, D&L wrote: “To attack a solution without offering a legitimate alternative would indicate these officials are acting against the company in a personal fashion. They seem less concerned with finding answers about why our area has experienced earthquakes, and would rather see D&L shut down as a sacrifice to political expediency.”

For the complete story, read Friday’s Vindicator and Vindy.com


Comments

1majick(34 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

No....we just really like our houses and don't want to see them destroyed!!! We need the jobs, but not at the expense of personal or property safety!!! Who's going to pay for the damage to our dwellings? There's a large crack in the concrete on our front porch, and we were 10 miles away!!!

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2citizen1776(10 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

At this point, the comments are immaterial. At this point, the study is immaterial. At this point, the people of the mahoning valley will NOT let you restart that well! D&L, please go away.

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3hellokitty(161 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

majick, NOBODY will pay for your damages.

D&L, go ahead and blast me...I am a private citizen, not a politician, and I say that you are LIARS! There are no jobs, only devastation. You are greedy, and EVIL.

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4hellokitty(161 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

DWAP, WHAT jobs? Please inform us!

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5hellokitty(161 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

No, because I work for a living, and always have. But thanks for the invite. I'm sure that you will be there though.

Also, if I were looking for something for nothing, I would have leased my mineral rights when the landmen came around. I could use the money, but not THAT bad.

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6Ytown20(118 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

D&L get out of Mahoning County. Isn't it obvious at this point we don't want you here? I bet that earthquake really damped your New Year's considering now the whole area is awakened to the dirty business that is fracking.

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7pgurney(274 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

“To attack a solution without offering a legitimate alternative would indicate these officials are acting against the company in a personal fashion."

Um, hello??? Hagan and Sammarone DID offer a legitimate alternative. They suggested that people would "be more comfortable with an INDEPENDENT study, rather than one that could be perceived as being influenced by D&L".

I don't know about you, but that sounds like a legitimate alternative to me. And a GOOD one, at that.

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8georgejeanie(786 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

Please D&L leave before the buffoons of the Mahoning Valley start the lawsuits and make your company insolvent. These idiots have no idea if your type of business is causing these earthquakes or not. You can bet if they are allowed to pick an independent person it will be from academic side of the coin and you will be found guilty no matter what the facts are. Leave the Mahoning Valley, they are satisfied with their rotting city and all that goes with it.

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9captdinger(108 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

Soooooo, is Hagan and Sammarone just talking or are they going to get "an INDEPENDENT study, rather than one that could be perceived as being influenced by D&L" and who's going to pay for it? Maybe you could get Hagan and Sammarone to have Obama pay for it. He hasn't done anything else for the valley. Come to think of it, neither has Hagan or Sammarone.

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10CongressWatcher(156 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

The problem here is the bond of trust has been broken between D&L, ODNR, most of our elected officials, and the citizens of the valley. This bond was broken when they attempted to deny a correlation until it got to be such a big problem that it blew up in their face.

So now, who is to be trusted other than the small group of us citizens and the media who kept researching and pressing the issue so that when the big event did happen, people were educated enough to FINALLY understand the problem with this well?

I would like to say, have D&L give the money to ODNR and let them pick the firm to do the study, but quite frankly it is hard to trust them at this point as well.

Just like this map that is out there on the internet and quite frankly was very instrumental in shedding light on the problem, the study needs to be shared on the internet and be allowed to be scrutinized by whomever is interested in it.

http://www.munimanagement.com/shookup

That might go along way to regaining the trust needed to move forward in this industry here in the valley and throughout the state.

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11majick(34 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

georgejeannie: maybe you'd change your tune if your house gets shaken off its foundation and crumbles around you. would you like to pay the deductible and and handle all the headaches that come with fixing things? and then try to file a claim in the future and get dropped by your ins. co.? that's what'll happen if this keeps up. but maybe you don't live around here anymore? if not, then maybe you want to worry about your own neck of the woods and quit badmouthing all us "buffoons". we'll be fine!

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12WHATSSHAKIN(42 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

Bob and Chuck would make an excellent comedy team at the Lemon Grove. Neither has done much in the line of generating jobs in Youngstown.

Let the experts do the study and relax at the Lemon Grove. Perhaps Bob could launch his bid for governor from there.

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13UnionForever(1470 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

D&L should just leave this area. We don't need your environmental and property destroyer kind of business in the valley. Take your wells out of state. When are you going to man up and offer to pay for all the quake damage your well caused?

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14AtownAugie(697 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

The study that *needs* to be made is: "Which has harmed more people/property? Brine-injection or people/property trampled when between Hagan and a tv camera."

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15johnyoung(241 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

Youngstown officials and the state regulators are in a tough spot here. Any study conducted, regardless of the source, will likely only contain anecdotal evidence linking the recent seismic activity to the injection well. It will be virtually impossible to scientifically link the earthquake occurrences to operation of the injection wells. On that basis, how do you force a legally permitted business to cease operation?

Those geologists who have thus far opined such a link have offered nothing in the way of scientific evidence, only opinion. Regarding the efficacy of a study conducted by D&L, one of the basic tenets of any scientific study is peer review. Regardless of who conducts the study, its conclusions should be subject to review by other credentialed experts in the field.

The most objectionable aspect of this whole debacle is the actions and the reactions of the local politicians. On the local level, why was Youngstown so eager to entice such an environmentally sensitive enterprise to set up shop within the city with the assistance of free land and tax abatements? On the state level, Hagan, as a state legislator evidently did nothing proactively to anticipate some of the problems associated with the emerging gas and oil drilling industry. The state's permit process has very few teeth, and does not allow the state to order cessation of activities without a high standard of cause. They are lucky that D&L volunteered to temporarily cease operations.

The key to avoiding these types of situations in the future is to elect forward thinking individuals to public office who are truly interested in public service and protection of the citizens.

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16RustOnMyBelt(113 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

If this pocket of natural gas is so vast and unique to this region, why were ANY tax breaks given to ANYBODY? If they can get to it somewhere else, then ok.If what they want is here in the valley, let them pay market value for properties and pay their fair share of taxes.We ought not be surprised by the apathy shown towards homeowners, our land and our health. As we have seen with our involvement in the oil-rich Middle East, energy needs always trump human lives.Funny how the republican cry for "less govenment" has turned to "where are the EPA and ODNR"? Well at least, through this crisis, we have found some common ground :)

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17db(280 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

Why attack D&L for funding an independent study? Take their results, analyze & verify them, and contest anything questionable. Hagan & Sammarone are looking for a piece of the action; a 'contribution' as JJ Cafaro would say...
-speaking of JJ, where has he disappeared to? Now all we see is his lookalike daughter along with Hippie Hagan on the news.

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18snydro0108(61 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

db, well said. Before these earthquakes, whether they were the result of the drilling or whatever, every last one of you hippocrits wanted D&L here. Now, that these accidents have occurred, which happen in Texas, Oklahoma, the Dakotas, Kansas, Colorado, etc, etc, etc, it's time to run them out! Don't let them try to fix it. Don't let them try to make it right. If GM caused an earthquake, would you want Lordstown to leave?

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19walter_sobchak(1886 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

johnyoung,
Excellent post! The only Buckwheat has tried to do with natural gas was to make comments about paying sales tax on the gas in our homes. But, we still pay it!

If there are concerns about the study, have the USGS select the independent geologist!

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20Ianacek(899 comments)posted 2 years, 7 months ago

It's really the State's job to protect the public interest .

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